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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 10:44:08
October 06 2016 10:34 GMT
#115621
On October 06 2016 18:58 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 18:15 Miragee wrote:
K, I don't really know the exact meaning for concert band in english. Looking up wiki it says: "A concert band [...] is a performing ensemble consisting of members of the woodwind, brass, and percussion families of instruments, along with the double bass." That said, I don't really have much experience with these kind of esembles. I know one where some friends of mine play and they only have wind instruments and percussions.


I think it's possible a double bass could be included; it's just that all the ones I've been in or seen only go with wind, brass, and percussion. It may not be common to see a double bass just because, at least in the U.S., it's not common for string instruments in general to be utilized in education and a double bass is pretty rare even among strings. Thinking about it, stringed instruments in general seem more common in Asian education - and of the schools I've been through and the ones around it, a school was unlikely to own its own string instruments (although my HS did have a standing bass for the Jazz band) while it was more common for there to be the more expensive brass instruments and larger woodwinds. (This is the only way that two flute players, myself and my neighbor of 5 years, wound up still sitting next to each other while playing the horn and bassoon in our last three years of high school.)

Only woodwind and percussion would make me think of a wind ensemble.

I think it may be down to budgets and school funding in the long run - not a lot of parents want to pay the high prices for some instruments when many people are starting in our educational system. (Those that still have a music program, at least.)

in my experience school bands just go with what they get or what they have. The band in HS I was in had a handful of string instruments and at least where I went to school you're not going to get turned down if you want to join pretty much no matter what you play. Then the conducter has to somehow make it work
But then I don't really know bands in school as a place where you "learn" how to play. You can join them for fun if you already know how to play and have some events to play at but they won't teach you how to play an instrument from zero. That might be different in the US/Asia or my school was just weird that way because size and funding of the school should not have been an issue.

Outside of school it obviously was like you said, percussion+brass+wood. Especially if it's not just hobby and you're getting paid for stuff
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 06 2016 11:24 GMT
#115622
On October 06 2016 19:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 18:58 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 06 2016 18:15 Miragee wrote:
K, I don't really know the exact meaning for concert band in english. Looking up wiki it says: "A concert band [...] is a performing ensemble consisting of members of the woodwind, brass, and percussion families of instruments, along with the double bass." That said, I don't really have much experience with these kind of esembles. I know one where some friends of mine play and they only have wind instruments and percussions.


I think it's possible a double bass could be included; it's just that all the ones I've been in or seen only go with wind, brass, and percussion. It may not be common to see a double bass just because, at least in the U.S., it's not common for string instruments in general to be utilized in education and a double bass is pretty rare even among strings. Thinking about it, stringed instruments in general seem more common in Asian education - and of the schools I've been through and the ones around it, a school was unlikely to own its own string instruments (although my HS did have a standing bass for the Jazz band) while it was more common for there to be the more expensive brass instruments and larger woodwinds. (This is the only way that two flute players, myself and my neighbor of 5 years, wound up still sitting next to each other while playing the horn and bassoon in our last three years of high school.)

Only woodwind and percussion would make me think of a wind ensemble.

I think it may be down to budgets and school funding in the long run - not a lot of parents want to pay the high prices for some instruments when many people are starting in our educational system. (Those that still have a music program, at least.)

in my experience school bands just go with what they get or what they have. The band in HS I was in had a handful of string instruments and at least where I went to school you're not going to get turned down if you want to join pretty much no matter what you play. Then the conducter has to somehow make it work
But then I don't really know bands in school as a place where you "learn" how to play. You can join them for fun if you already know how to play and have some events to play at but they won't teach you how to play an instrument from zero. That might be different in the US/Asia or my school was just weird that way because size and funding of the school should not have been an issue.

Outside of school it obviously was like you said, percussion+brass+wood. Especially if it's not just hobby and you're getting paid for stuff


Showing my age a bit, but at least where I was (northeast US) back in the early 80s, music education was pretty much from first through fourth grades - chorus mostly from first to third, and at the end of third grade there was a presentation and the option for interested students/parents to sign up for instruments. Generally woodwinds, brass, percussion; string instruments were something students generally had to go outside of school to learn. From fourth on through High School, music was an optional choice with the teacher giving instruction at the end of the day in group lessons for the different sections and once a week or so for the full ensemble. High School had an actual class period in the day for students that took "band" or "chorus", as well as after school activities associated with certain sub-groupings (like jazz band). Some parts of class were seasonal (marching band in the fall with a camp at the end of summer, coinciding with football season) and concert band through winter and early spring, then towards a hybrid with both concert and marching during the various holidays starting around March. There was also after-school musicals, in which the music students made up the performing band. I know that even as I was graduating in the mid90s, music and art budgets in general were going down. Outside of school, there were other groups (I was in a brass quintet, some people auditioned for drum and bugle corps or youth symphonic orchestras, audition-gated competitive groups) and the schools themselves had local and regional competitions.

One of the reasons I've enjoyed various parts of Hibike! Euphonium is probably nostalgia over my time in band. One of the teachers I had is even a bit like the female homeroom teacher, although thatteacher had an incredible drive to put us through competitions. Of course, Eupho also has the subtle bits of yuri here and there, and that's nice alongside the music.

Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 13:37:14
October 06 2016 13:36 GMT
#115623
On October 06 2016 16:09 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 09:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
NSFW trailer:

+ Show Spoiler +


time to stop trashing KyoAni and start appreciating the work they're doing for Anime

That show was fucking garbage.


Dude, should we all watch Bernard-jou Iwaku or not?

Yes.

Watch it for the memes, because it sounds like /lit/ the anime. I've been senselessly shilling it for a while now.

It's gonna be awful. :D
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4164 Posts
October 06 2016 14:27 GMT
#115624
I wish I knew more about concert bands to contribute to the conversation. I'm a complete noob in the subject. To be clear: I was SHOCKED to find out the saxophone wasn't considered brass. It's a woodwind instrument?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8986 Posts
October 06 2016 14:30 GMT
#115625
On October 06 2016 19:24 HolydaKing wrote:
Not sure if I like how Bungou Stray Dogs S2 started. + Show Spoiler +
I mean, Dazai is a pretty fun character, but I don't really like flashbacks to the past... I hope it's not too long. It was getting really interesting in the end of S1, so I wanna see what happens next.

.+ Show Spoiler +
A few flashbacks for Dazai is awesome in my opinion. He's one of the most feared former execs for the Port Mafia, so I want to know how and why he got that reputation. If it continues for more than 2-3 episodes, then yeah, it'll get annoying. But fleshing out characters a bit isn't too bad if they keep it short
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 14:56:24
October 06 2016 14:45 GMT
#115626
On October 06 2016 23:27 lestye wrote:
I wish I knew more about concert bands to contribute to the conversation. I'm a complete noob in the subject. To be clear: I was SHOCKED to find out the saxophone wasn't considered brass. It's a woodwind instrument?

yes. The "sheet", or whatever you call it in english, that you strap on the mouthpiece is some kind of wood (looked it up, it's reed) and I guess the vibration (?) of that makes the sound, hence woodwind instrument.

Funny sidenote, I once got to try out playing a sax and I was not able to get a tone out of it so that's why there's a questionmark up there

I did play in orchestra/bands for years but really I have no clue about other instruments so I only know how to play trombone. And because trombone is quite unique in how you change pitch I couldn't even just swap around when drunk for shitz and giggles with horns or whatever because "valves, omg, how do they work, what do I have to press for what note"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 06 2016 15:45 GMT
#115627
On October 06 2016 23:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 23:27 lestye wrote:
I wish I knew more about concert bands to contribute to the conversation. I'm a complete noob in the subject. To be clear: I was SHOCKED to find out the saxophone wasn't considered brass. It's a woodwind instrument?

yes. The "sheet", or whatever you call it in english, that you strap on the mouthpiece is some kind of wood (looked it up, it's reed) and I guess the vibration (?) of that makes the sound, hence woodwind instrument.

Funny sidenote, I once got to try out playing a sax and I was not able to get a tone out of it so that's why there's a questionmark up there

I did play in orchestra/bands for years but really I have no clue about other instruments so I only know how to play trombone. And because trombone is quite unique in how you change pitch I couldn't even just swap around when drunk for shitz and giggles with horns or whatever because "valves, omg, how do they work, what do I have to press for what note"


Yep; it's a woodwind because it's a reed instrument. Similar to how you use you vibrate your lips on a brass mouthpiece to make a tone, you use air and your lips on the mouthpiece to vibrate the reed to cause a tone.

Yeah, trombone is the wild one in the instrumental kingdom; unlike the fingering of the keys on a woodwind (whose fingerings are all more or less the same but might produce different notes depending on the musical key of the instrument) or the valves in brass (same; they're all the same fingerings if sometimes different notes) you've got those slide positions that need to be more or less accurate. Closest you get to that is if you learn to play a natural horn; used to mess with my music teacher in high school by playing an F horn using only my hand in the bell to alter pitch. That does cause some of the tones to be decidedly muted though. I've managed to play notes with just about everything except for the double reed instruments (because those are a pain). The only woodwinds that don't use reeds are the flute family, iirc.
Painful sidestory - friend of mine in high school was a huge clarinet guy. Almost always had a reed in his mouth to keep it moist - which he found was really a bad idea when he tripped and landed on his face. He got his reed jammed through his gums under his teeth (OUCH!) and lost a few months worth of practice time.

Anyways, finished all of season one and the OVA for Eupho, and while I'll agree it's not the most amazing anime ever, the music is pretty on point and the girls are cute. The drama even sounds about right for a high school band.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
October 06 2016 16:55 GMT
#115628
On October 06 2016 15:08 lestye wrote:
Hibike Euphonium S2E1+ Show Spoiler +
Pleasantly surprised with a 45 minute episode!!! I love the way this show looks, especially the reflection of light off everyone's eyes. And that Oboe render was gorgeous.

Does anyone think Asuka senpai was too unforgiving? Granted I'm not sure if we know how badly she got fucked over when the 2nd years bounced, but the girl seemed to really want to re-commit with Asuka-senpai's blessing. I don't think she would be so persistent if she wasn't serious.

Oh the episode was 45 mins long? no wonder it felt like it was able to cover a lot.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 06 2016 18:28 GMT
#115629
On October 06 2016 15:08 lestye wrote:
Hibike Euphonium S2E1+ Show Spoiler +
Pleasantly surprised with a 45 minute episode!!! I love the way this show looks, especially the reflection of light off everyone's eyes. And that Oboe render was gorgeous.

Does anyone think Asuka senpai was too unforgiving? Granted I'm not sure if we know how badly she got fucked over when the 2nd years bounced, but the girl seemed to really want to re-commit with Asuka-senpai's blessing. I don't think she would be so persistent if she wasn't serious.

Those were some lovely 45 minutes. Also really gay ending. Kyoani don't do this to me.

+ Show Spoiler +
My thoughts are same as you. I feel this may be one of the cases where men and women differ. The way conflict and emotion around that is handled tends to be quite different. If this was a mainly male class then I think they'd have a tussle, maybe devoid into shouting or even physical altercation then afterwards laugh it out and move forward. Hell I know I've been through dumb shit like that in HS lol.

Asuka and to an extent Reina are excusing their emotions as "logical" when it's really not. If you want the nationals then you need the best people to have the highest chance. The most logical step is if this person is willing and good then use them. It's kind of petty revenge on Asuka's part. She was hurt, betrayed even and now can't look past that to forgive. Life and especially school life is far too short to harbor grudges for long.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8520 Posts
October 06 2016 18:48 GMT
#115630
All Out! ep1 was alright.

On October 06 2016 22:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 16:09 Miragee wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
NSFW trailer:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=S5nlpC3EJ0w


time to stop trashing KyoAni and start appreciating the work they're doing for Anime

That show was fucking garbage.


Dude, should we all watch Bernard-jou Iwaku or not?

Yes.

Watch it for the memes, because it sounds like /lit/ the anime. I've been senselessly shilling it for a while now.

It's gonna be awful. :D


Thanks. First episode was awesome.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 06 2016 19:01 GMT
#115631
I'm actually going to give Keijo a shot and see if it's any good
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 06 2016 19:07 GMT
#115632
On October 07 2016 03:48 Miragee wrote:
All Out! ep1 was alright.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 22:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 16:09 Miragee wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
NSFW trailer:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=S5nlpC3EJ0w


time to stop trashing KyoAni and start appreciating the work they're doing for Anime

That show was fucking garbage.


Dude, should we all watch Bernard-jou Iwaku or not?

Yes.

Watch it for the memes, because it sounds like /lit/ the anime. I've been senselessly shilling it for a while now.

It's gonna be awful. :D


Thanks. First episode was awesome.

"Awesome."

Dear god, what have I done?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 06 2016 19:08 GMT
#115633
On October 07 2016 04:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 03:48 Miragee wrote:
All Out! ep1 was alright.

On October 06 2016 22:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 16:09 Miragee wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
NSFW trailer:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=S5nlpC3EJ0w


time to stop trashing KyoAni and start appreciating the work they're doing for Anime

That show was fucking garbage.


Dude, should we all watch Bernard-jou Iwaku or not?

Yes.

Watch it for the memes, because it sounds like /lit/ the anime. I've been senselessly shilling it for a while now.

It's gonna be awful. :D


Thanks. First episode was awesome.

"Awesome."

Dear god, what have I done?


If you can appreciate twitch chat, I'm sure you can do that for /lit/ the anime
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 06 2016 19:11 GMT
#115634
On October 07 2016 04:08 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 04:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 07 2016 03:48 Miragee wrote:
All Out! ep1 was alright.

On October 06 2016 22:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 16:09 Miragee wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 06 2016 09:10 Toadesstern wrote:
NSFW trailer:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=S5nlpC3EJ0w


time to stop trashing KyoAni and start appreciating the work they're doing for Anime

That show was fucking garbage.


Dude, should we all watch Bernard-jou Iwaku or not?

Yes.

Watch it for the memes, because it sounds like /lit/ the anime. I've been senselessly shilling it for a while now.

It's gonna be awful. :D


Thanks. First episode was awesome.

"Awesome."

Dear god, what have I done?


If you can appreciate twitch chat, I'm sure you can do that for /lit/ the anime

I mean, a couple months ago when it first got announced, that's what I've been describing it as yo~

There was actually a thread on /lit/ about it like a week ago.

Main character basically encapsulates everything about your generic /lit/ character. Memorizes a lot of titles, wants to use them in daily conversation, doesn't get fazed when she gets BTFO'd by someone who actually knows what she's talking about.

Good shit~
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 06 2016 19:51 GMT
#115635
Keijo is, well.. certainly something else. I don't watch ecchi anime so I don't really know what to say
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8520 Posts
October 06 2016 19:56 GMT
#115636
On October 07 2016 04:51 plasmidghost wrote:
Keijo is, well.. certainly something else. I don't watch ecchi anime so I don't really know what to say


Sometimes it's better to remain silent.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 06 2016 19:59 GMT
#115637
It's the show we all watch but don't speak about. Better that way. Enjoyed in isolation.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 06 2016 19:59 GMT
#115638
Considered watching it at work.

Thought twice.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8520 Posts
October 06 2016 20:05 GMT
#115639
On October 07 2016 04:59 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Considered watching it at work.

Thought twice.


Thinking that over was probably a good idea.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 06 2016 20:24 GMT
#115640
Keijo is gonna be AOTY.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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