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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
June 06 2015 13:55 GMT
#99701
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 14:26:47
June 06 2015 14:24 GMT
#99702
On June 06 2015 22:55 KazeHydra wrote:
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.


Best T-M work is anything that doesn't have fate/ in its name imoimo \o/
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#99703
The tsukihime anime was atrocious, I watched it after the I read the VN, I wouldn't reccomend it to anyone plus they take the ''bad'' route.

Akiha best btw.
WriterXiao8~~
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#99704
On June 06 2015 23:24 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 22:55 KazeHydra wrote:
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.


Best T-M work is anything that doesn't have fate/ in its name imoimo \o/


Lol aye. Makes me wonder why the fate stuff is so popular. Is it really just because of the random Saber love?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 06 2015 17:05 GMT
#99705
On June 07 2015 01:55 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 23:24 IceHism wrote:
On June 06 2015 22:55 KazeHydra wrote:
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.


Best T-M work is anything that doesn't have fate/ in its name imoimo \o/


Lol aye. Makes me wonder why the fate stuff is so popular. Is it really just because of the random Saber love?


Or you know, Fate actually being the best T-M franchise.
Never Knows Best.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 06 2015 17:21 GMT
#99706
danmachi is getting worse. damn i had some hope for it.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 06 2015 17:35 GMT
#99707
On June 07 2015 02:21 BurningSera wrote:
danmachi is getting worse. damn i had some hope for it.

I never did, it's just an SAO ripoff and I absolutely hated SAO, so I dropped it after the first episode
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#99708
On June 07 2015 02:35 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 02:21 BurningSera wrote:
danmachi is getting worse. damn i had some hope for it.

I never did, it's just an SAO ripoff and I absolutely hated SAO, so I dropped it after the first episode


If your going to go that low by calling it a SAO ripoff, at least have the decency to watch more then one episode and actually learn about the series 1st.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8522 Posts
June 06 2015 17:46 GMT
#99709
Actually, Danmachi seemed to combine all the bad things from SAO and Fairy Tail into one show while neglecting the good things.

On June 07 2015 01:55 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 23:24 IceHism wrote:
On June 06 2015 22:55 KazeHydra wrote:
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.


Best T-M work is anything that doesn't have fate/ in its name imoimo \o/


Lol aye. Makes me wonder why the fate stuff is so popular. Is it really just because of the random Saber love?


People seem to love blank female characters. The only requirement for them is to be cute. I mean, same goes for Miss-Tuturu! from Steins;Gate.


Side report: Steins;Gate ep13 was pretty much what I expected. Shows with focus on time-travel don't work as thrillers imho. But the show is far from being over so maybe it handles the rest better.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 06 2015 17:49 GMT
#99710
Tuturu is a Hanakana character. That means there's instant fandom.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 06 2015 17:55 GMT
#99711
My favorite description for Danmachi is Sword Art Online: Fat Fucking Titty Edition.
Still has a good fight every now and then. Romance is worse. Though I like Bell's reason for being OP way more. He just got lucky skills, rather than "the plot says he's best because he has to be".
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
June 06 2015 17:59 GMT
#99712
On June 07 2015 02:35 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 02:21 BurningSera wrote:
danmachi is getting worse. damn i had some hope for it.

I never did, it's just an SAO ripoff and I absolutely hated SAO, so I dropped it after the first episode

I think Danmachi is better described as a parody rather than a rip off.

Story is literally Bell-kun doing exactly what his grandpa told him to do, which is pick up girls in dungeons.


That said, I think Danmachi does better than what most rpg harems are known for.


@toad: I'm catching my flight soon. Expect danmachi in 2 hours or so.
Skol
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 18:10:31
June 06 2015 18:07 GMT
#99713
On June 07 2015 02:55 Dark_Chill wrote:
My favorite description for Danmachi is Sword Art Online: Fat Fucking Titty Edition.
Still has a good fight every now and then. Romance is worse. Though I like Bell's reason for being OP way more. He just got lucky skills, rather than "the plot says he's best because he has to be".

in both scenarios the MC's are op because of plot/nonsensical reason, don't really see the difference.

Danmachi is amusing for me, thats about it.
WriterXiao8~~
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 18:31:27
June 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#99714
Yea I don't really see how you can say Danmachi is worse than SAO or a rip off of it. They similar and doing pretty much the same thing with Danmachi not taking itself as seriously thus not failing as hard at being serious. SAO isn't exactly original either.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 18:41:46
June 06 2015 18:32 GMT
#99715
On June 07 2015 02:46 Miragee wrote:
Actually, Danmachi seemed to combine all the bad things from SAO and Fairy Tail into one show while neglecting the good things.



here's how I see it and I havn't seen the most recent episode yet because waiting for emnjay:

Yes it threw away all the parts where SAO tried to be good but in the end failed horribly to be good because in the end it is just a glorified pseudo-harem with lots and lots of wish fullfillment for people who are watching it.
DanMach said "screw that, we're not even going to try and pretend to be meaningful. We're just going to have a fun time", which I can understand people saying that means it's even worse because they didn't even try to give us anything meaningful to begin with.

For me however it is a lot more enjoyable that way. Not having those cringe moments and just flat out entertainment without trying to be something it's not able to be. Depends on how you approach the show and what you're looking for. If you want it to be a decent story with character developement that exceeds "he's a emo dude wearing a black coat... and that's it" you're not going to have fun with either of the two shows but you'll probably think SAO is better because they at least tried to give us that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 06 2015 19:04 GMT
#99716
On June 07 2015 03:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 02:46 Miragee wrote:
Actually, Danmachi seemed to combine all the bad things from SAO and Fairy Tail into one show while neglecting the good things.



here's how I see it and I havn't seen the most recent episode yet because waiting for emnjay:

Yes it threw away all the parts where SAO tried to be good but in the end failed horribly to be good because in the end it is just a glorified pseudo-harem with lots and lots of wish fullfillment for people who are watching it.
DanMach said "screw that, we're not even going to try and pretend to be meaningful. We're just going to have a fun time", which I can understand people saying that means it's even worse because they didn't even try to give us anything meaningful to begin with.

For me however it is a lot more enjoyable that way. Not having those cringe moments and just flat out entertainment without trying to be something it's not able to be. Depends on how you approach the show and what you're looking for. If you want it to be a decent story with character developement that exceeds "he's a emo dude wearing a black coat... and that's it" you're not going to have fun with either of the two shows but you'll probably think SAO is better because they at least tried to give us that.

I actually think it's worse to try and fail as hard as SAO did than just not even try in the first place. I guess I had my expectations too high with DanMachi since a lot of people were hyping it and I just found nothing of value in it.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 06 2015 19:09 GMT
#99717
BoobString strong~
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 19:17:22
June 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#99718
I think people have too high of standards for the medium (while conveniently lowering them for whatever shows they like) and/or they increase how strong the insults are by 33% because its the internet and therefore you must be 33% more of an asshole and pretend that you only enjoy the top .01% of all entertainment ever produced.

SAO is by no means bad, anyone who calls SAO bad or trash has no idea about the bigger context of what the industry produces. Its certainly a slightly above average show that was ambitious, which probably led to its popularity, because it took an interesting concept and made a competent story with some nice characters. Sure did it fail to reach a lot of expectations people probably had for it after the initial exposure to it? Sure, there were several aspects and characters that went underdeveloped. So I can see where people are coming from when they are disappointed in the show but it was no means horrible.

DanMachi is its own thing and the comparison fails below the very basic level of "has mmo type elements". I would agree though that it does not take itself as seriously as SAO did though and that is probably a big point in its favor. Also the characters are better and have the potential to blow SAO's out of the water if the author manages to develop them competently.

On June 07 2015 02:46 Miragee wrote:
Actually, Danmachi seemed to combine all the bad things from SAO and Fairy Tail into one show while neglecting the good things.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 01:55 Numy wrote:
On June 06 2015 23:24 IceHism wrote:
On June 06 2015 22:55 KazeHydra wrote:
Mahoyo for best T-M work imo.


Best T-M work is anything that doesn't have fate/ in its name imoimo \o/


Lol aye. Makes me wonder why the fate stuff is so popular. Is it really just because of the random Saber love?


People seem to love blank female characters. The only requirement for them is to be cute. I mean, same goes for Miss-Tuturu! from Steins;Gate.


Side report: Steins;Gate ep13 was pretty much what I expected. Shows with focus on time-travel don't work as thrillers imho. But the show is far from being over so maybe it handles the rest better.



Saber isn't a blank female character lol.
Never Knows Best.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 19:23:44
June 06 2015 19:22 GMT
#99719
Saber's advantage is that her character design is godtier

The outfit+ahoge=so good.

Shes not blank but shes not really that interesting as a character nor does she have good chemistry/interactions with most of the rest of the Fate Universe.
WriterXiao8~~
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 19:32:25
June 06 2015 19:29 GMT
#99720
I consider SAO to be below average honestly, i didn't like any of its characters minus one or two side-characters that got far too little screen-time and i absolutely hate the main characters.
Kirito is absolutely awful. He's as uninteresting and boring as they come, hell i consider magical ninja jesus to be slightly more interesting.
And asuna starts out alright and then instantly goes into being one of the worst female characters i've seen in anime with what i'd probably call reverse character development, pretty impressive actually.
Overall SAO created an interesting setting and concept and then squandered it completely by focusing it around kirito, SAO's setting with a focus on a guild or a group of characters would've been a ton better i think, or if kirito had been a good character it might've helped too.

I however don't think SAO was 1/10 worst anime i ever saw, i considered the first part of season 1 to be a 5/10, which to me is average but the second part was a 3/10 to me, absolutely awful which made me give the show 4/10 as its final score, below average.

It's all going to come down to personal taste though, some people might like kirito as a character for reasons that are completely beyond me or they might enjoy the action/setting enough that they'll just ignore/don't mind the flaws.

I mean the anime i enjoyed the most out of all was TTGL and it's not because i consider TTGL to be a flawless anime, it has a lot of flaws actually, but the parts of it i did like i liked A LOT. Enough that it overshadowed any flaws it has, to me anyway.
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