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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 16:44:02
June 05 2015 16:35 GMT
#99641
On June 06 2015 01:04 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 00:44 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
lmao numy


why don't you tell us how you really feel about it?


I just keep seeing/reading countless stories with really interesting settings/premise being completely butchered by awful writing and characters over and over again until it makes me blow a lid. It's like these LN authors have one original idea then afterwards all follow the exact same formula of "how to make a successful LN".

Compare Magic Jesus to Touma. They are both the exact same character. Merely one instead of being a giant pussy, owns the fact that he's Magic Jesus. The shows themselves have similar settings with magic/fantasy elements and a cast of rather good side characters that get overshadowed by the bullshit MC. The only reason I can stand Magic Jesus over Touma is that Magic Jesus is at least cool when he plot armours his way through story moments. If you're going to make sure an MC removes all tension from your story at least make him interesting and cool while he does it.

It's no secret I love fantasy novels. I don't expect everything to be as well done as Erikson/Cook but at least try make it decent.

@Toad - Lol I actually like Miyuki when Magic Jesus isn't round :<. She's a cool(huehue) strong female character when he's somewhere else.. Which is actually exactly the same as what happens with Misaka and Touma lol.


Those two stories don't have any competition in their genre (magitek fantasy+scifi genre) though... I look through a lot of LNs and no one is trying to write the better mahouka/index. It's not hard to succeed when you're the only product in that crowd. Mostly because it's actually pretty difficult to world build like those novels to begin with outside of certain people like Kawakami's horizon / owari no chronicle series
Everyone recent just writes their isekai or tensei fantasy stories all day

Also, i feel like i'm the only person who doesn't think mahouka is an action ln. there's at most like 1 or 2 fights per volume which is really low.

It'd be better to read VNs or LNs by vn authors if you don't want something targeted towards young adults.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 16:45:00
June 05 2015 16:44 GMT
#99642
I'm merely using Mahouka/Index as an example as I really liked their settings more than most. I feel that way about more LNs that get adapted and the few I read that haven't been adapted. So many interesting settings and characters just completely butchered by terrible formulaic execution.

edit: People think Mahouka is an action lN oO. The action is pretty awful and small part of the story. I think the best action he wrote was in the side chapter with that random gun guy and the Gangster girl.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 16:49:25
June 05 2015 16:47 GMT
#99643
On June 06 2015 01:44 Numy wrote:
I'm merely using Mahouka/Index as an example as I really liked their settings more than most. I feel that way about more LNs that get adapted and the few I read that haven't been adapted. So many interesting settings and characters just completely butchered by terrible formulaic execution.


What adaptions have you been watching though? If i go back and look at recent chuu2 LN adaptions, i would say that a lot of them failed in all worldbuilding, character, and story lmao. (hence why they only get 1 cour half-assed infomertials)

On June 06 2015 01:44 Numy wrote:
edit: People think Mahouka is an action lN oO. The action is pretty awful and small part of the story. I think the best action he wrote was in the side chapter with that random gun guy and the Gangster girl.


Sounds like morisaki and the black sage's daughter lol? It was pretty funny how he never figured out who he was saving.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 05 2015 17:12 GMT
#99644
I'm pretty sure that'll be picked up again later
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 17:44:23
June 05 2015 17:43 GMT
#99645
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#99646
Any anime similar to Arslan? In mood for some more medieval-themed / conquest story!
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
June 05 2015 18:04 GMT
#99647
On June 06 2015 02:43 Numy wrote:
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.


interesting. How do you feel about NGNL?

On June 06 2015 02:56 XenOmega wrote:
Any anime similar to Arslan? In mood for some more medieval-themed / conquest story!

berserk
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 05 2015 18:05 GMT
#99648
On June 06 2015 03:04 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 02:43 Numy wrote:
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.


interesting. How do you feel about NGNL?

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 02:56 XenOmega wrote:
Any anime similar to Arslan? In mood for some more medieval-themed / conquest story!

berserk


Already watched/read berserk!

I'm a sucker for political/manipulations/tactics!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 18:13:15
June 05 2015 18:10 GMT
#99649
NGNL was pandering trash. Very enjoyable and fun pandering trash :D. It was rather shameless in being solely an advertisement for the LN though. I don't mind trashy shows, rather enjoyed DxD until the last few vols when freaking church trio took over.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 18:18:55
June 05 2015 18:15 GMT
#99650
On June 06 2015 02:43 Numy wrote:
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.


I don't see how SAO and Fate are relevant when both were written 10-11 years ago. Hardly recent. I'll have to read Accel world or SAO vol 16(new content!) to see how reki is now.

But man, I thought you were gonna name other things seeing the complaint but meh.

I agree with steeplechase and double seven being filler. Though latest 2 volumes are pretty good (15 and 16)
Translation is going a lot faster now too so it won't take too long to come out.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 18:18:22
June 05 2015 18:16 GMT
#99651
On June 06 2015 03:10 Numy wrote:
NGNL was pandering trash. Very enjoyable and fun pandering trash :D. It was rather shameless in being solely an advertisement for the LN though. I don't mind trashy shows, rather enjoyed DxD until the last few vols when freaking church trio took over.


Outside of Asia, the church trio is fine (Xenovia obv best). Plus heaven did Irina a solid with + Show Spoiler +
the whole making a room whose sole purpose is to allow Irina and Issei to have sex without her falling.


I thought Fate/Stay Night VN was fine and most of my criticisms of it cover only a very smaller elements of the story.
Never Knows Best.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
June 05 2015 18:21 GMT
#99652
On June 06 2015 03:10 Numy wrote:
NGNL was pandering trash. Very enjoyable and fun pandering trash :D. It was rather shameless in being solely an advertisement for the LN though. I don't mind trashy shows, rather enjoyed DxD until the last few vols when freaking church trio took over.


ok. I was wondering but that's one where i really liked the world setting but the characters (mainly the MC guy) weren't that great. and yes there definitely was lots of pandering in there.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 18:26:14
June 05 2015 18:23 GMT
#99653
On June 06 2015 03:10 Numy wrote:
NGNL was pandering trash. Very enjoyable and fun pandering trash :D. It was rather shameless in being solely an advertisement for the LN though. I don't mind trashy shows, rather enjoyed DxD until the last few vols when freaking church trio took over.

I agree with you, i haven't enjoyed the most recent volumes as much(Compared to what was before it anyway, then again volume 10-12 were super good imoimo, the series kind of peaked there), also partly because way too many short-story volumes back to back almost.
Atleast Ravel, Koneko, Kuroka and Le fay are carrying it. (And Ross post v17)
The upcoming volumes will focus primarily on akeno, rias and koneko supposedly though.

Ravel and koneko best girls.

Also i just began on non non biyori with its second season coming up next week, this is just the kind of relaxing anime i was in the mood for. So chill.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 05 2015 18:27 GMT
#99654
On June 06 2015 03:16 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 03:10 Numy wrote:
NGNL was pandering trash. Very enjoyable and fun pandering trash :D. It was rather shameless in being solely an advertisement for the LN though. I don't mind trashy shows, rather enjoyed DxD until the last few vols when freaking church trio took over.


Outside of Asia, the church trio is fine (Xenovia obv best). Plus heaven did Irina a solid with + Show Spoiler +
the whole making a room whose sole purpose is to allow Irina and Issei to have sex without her falling.


I thought Fate/Stay Night VN was fine and most of my criticisms of it cover only a very smaller elements of the story.


I like Xenovia a lot but Asia is so terrible she drags them both down. Doesn't help that Rias/Akeno get shafted for more Asia.

Yea Ravel/Koneko best.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 05 2015 18:33 GMT
#99655
To be fair it was inevitable that there would be volumes where the girls you don't like get the lion's share of the time. Its just the nature of this type of series, each girl gets her moment in the spot light. All you do read them and wait for when the series gets back around to spotlighting whatever character you like.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 05 2015 18:39 GMT
#99656
On June 06 2015 02:43 Numy wrote:
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.

Log Horizon, I hope?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 05 2015 18:49 GMT
#99657
On June 06 2015 02:43 Numy wrote:
Hmm honestly I'd have to go back and look over everything I've watched to give you everything. Off the top of my head the biggest offenders I can think of are Index/Mahouka/LogH/Fatestaynight with SAO being an honourable mention for turning a cool female character into a glorified fleshlight but I don't fault him too much since he's just an awful author that lucked out. There are also manga stuff that gives me same sadness, SnK being the worst offender. I know there are more out there but don't really feel like going through everything to pick them out lol.

Yea I found that side chapter pretty cute. Better than the last 2 vols I read combined lol. Man that 2nd inter school tournament vol was so bad I still can't believe it based the editor.

I thought everyone here liked Log Horizon
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2015 18:55 GMT
#99658
I liked season 1 and parts of season 2, most of season 2 was pretty meh though.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
June 05 2015 18:56 GMT
#99659
I don't like log horizon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44161 Posts
June 05 2015 18:58 GMT
#99660
i had fun s1(it got annoying later on) , s2 i couldn't take it
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