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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10638 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
except the end which felt like a huge copout unless I missed something Hope the prequel LN gets translated. On December 29 2014 18:33 AsnSensation wrote: Kirei's voiceactor gives me eargasm. Nakata Jouji so good. | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 29 2014 09:23 Sentenal wrote: It doesn't matter as much with UBW, but there are minor things in there. Like for example, saying Saber didn't develop after FZ is kind of backwards, since FZ wasn't even written when FSN came out, so there was no need to have her already developed when FSN started. When I was talking about Saber's character being developed, I was talking about UBW, which obviously was made after FZ. | ||
Sterlymobile
United States1009 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote: When I was talking about Saber's character being developed, I was talking about UBW, which obviously was made after FZ. UBW (the anime) is based on a route of the visual novel Fate/stay night from 2004 (https://vndb.org/v11). | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:20 maru~ wrote: UBW (the anime) is based on a route of the visual novel Fate/stay night from 2004 (https://vndb.org/v11). Of course but my point is that it was made after FZ(anime) and if it is made by the same guys(ufotable), Saber should have some resemblance in her character from previous anime(FZ) and she doesn't have it, at least for now. All I am saying that UBW series is continuation from FZ series, and Saber from FZ feels like a completely different character than the one from UBW that we are seeing now. | ||
Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote: Of course but my point is that it was made after FZ(anime) and if it is made by the same guys(ufotable), Saber should have some resemblance in her character from previous anime(FZ) and she doesn't have it, at least for now. All I am saying that UBW series is continuation from FZ series, and Saber from FZ feels like a completely different character than the one from UBW that we are seeing now. Ufotable are simply following the route as it was in the VN, and how she was in the VN should take priority over how she was in FZ since the VN came first and it's what they're trying to adapt right now. They're not trying to adapt post-FZ UBW, they're adapting UBW as it was in the VN. If UBW saber feels different from FZ saber then that's a flaw in FZ since it's a prequel. | ||
KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote: Of course but my point is that it was made after FZ(anime) and if it is made by the same guys(ufotable), Saber should have some resemblance in her character from previous anime(FZ) and she doesn't have it, at least for now. All I am saying that UBW series is continuation from FZ series, and Saber from FZ feels like a completely different character than the one from UBW that we are seeing now. lol ufotable made it very clear that UBW is NOT supposed to be viewed as a continuation of F/Z. | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:49 KazeHydra wrote: lol ufotable made it very clear that UBW is NOT supposed to be viewed as a continuation of F/Z. That is pretty stupid, since it IS continuation of FZ. They are even talking about the events of FZ in UBW, I don't have a clue why would they say that when FZ and UBW are connected... | ||
Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 29 2014 21:10 Ramiz1989 wrote: That is pretty stupid, since it IS continuation of FZ. They are even talking about the events of FZ in UBW, I don't have a clue why would they say that when FZ and UBW are connected... UBW was written before FZ. How saber acted in FZ has never affected how saber acted in UBW since FZ is a prequel written AFTER UBW was written. This anime is an adaption of the VN route called UBW, it's not ufotable making a continuation of FZ, it's just an adaption of the VN route which it is following quite closely. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On December 29 2014 18:49 maru~ wrote: Just marathoned Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru which I put on hold previously due to reasons. Enjoyed it a lot, very well executed for the most part + Show Spoiler + except the end which felt like a huge copout unless I missed something Hope the prequel LN gets translated. + Show Spoiler + The ending is by far the most controversial part of the show. there are also many different speculations that try to make sense of it I think these are the three most popular ways to look at the ending at the moment since the staff are obviously not helping here 1) Yuuna became a sort-of divine figure theory: This speculation is based on the Shinto religion where heroes can become gods and when Yunna touched the vertex core without her magical armor. In that moment, she communicated with shinju and asked that shinju return the offerings to the other heroes and to change the mankai system while she would eternally be stuck as a yuusha defending Shinju and this is speculated based on the fact that after The Sun exploded and they laid in a flower formation, Yuuna's fairy did not appear on top of her and Yunna was not covered with petals unlike her friends which suggest that she can still go yuusha. This theory would also explain why she was in a coma (because the wall needed to be rebuilt and yuuna would need to defend it until so), why she could hear Togo(who is a miko as stated in the prequel LN) and how she heard everyone else (pressed flowers) and why Yuuna was hurt when fuu squeezed her shoulder just a little (a scene that was replicated in episode 2 after defeating the first vertex) and how the story(to the hero of tomorrow) that Togo read to Yuuna at the end connect to them as people. Also, this theory further speculates that when Yuuna fainted during the play, it was because there was a Forethize warning. 2) Misunderstanding theory: In episode 7, there was a seemingly throwaway line when they were eating dinner that went along the lines of "offerings can be eaten after they have been out for a while right?". This speculation goes with the idea that the characters, including sonoko, had the wrong ideas about the system to begin with. That the offerings are permanent until the shinju arbitrary decides to return them. This speculation is based on the fact that Sonoko and Togo nearly destroyed Shinju and wiped out humanity and that it made evaluations to the Yuusha systems to prevent such things from happening in the future because the mindset that Fuu, Sonoko, Togo, and Karin had were all destructive. Another thing to note is that they drove back the vertexes so the heroes wouldnt be needed for a while so it would only make sense to discharge them. The faint in the play was a troll. This is the more optimistic and happy resolution for the characters as opposed to theory 1. "shinju-sama is a god, it isn't that straightforward" - sonoko 3) Deus ex / asspull theory: uhhhh Yea, you can guess from the name. This is the completely happy ending at the cost of unintelligent writing. Do note that none of these endings resolve the fact that the world around is all fire. This is a character driven show and not a plot-driven one so the character resolutions are more important. Also, gods don't have infinite energy in this story. And this show has apparently been in planning / production for two years Edit: oops, I left one theory out. 4) shinju is an asshole that loves torturing little girls. This one is a bit funny if you think Shinjuu didn't need to take offerings to begin with. Prequel LN is already translated and I can upload it for you if you want. I'm personally a fan of theory 1 since it makes the most sense to me and would be the best to write a sequel out of. Of course, in the end it is all speculation so far and I've seen my fair share of angry people at the ending, happy people because everything is daijoubu, and people who are confused as fuck. | ||
maru~
2345 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [YuYuYu] + I'm fine with a happy ending for this show because it fits the themes and general mood better, I just wish they had explained it a bit better. Maybe it's just 2deep4me. So yeah, I guess for me it's a combination of being angry, happy and confused. I don't mind it that much considering how much the show has been doing right besides that, but I guess there's still this nagging feeling that it could've been even better. On December 29 2014 22:07 IceHism wrote: Prequel LN is already translated and I can upload it for you if you want. Oh cool, please do so. Edit: Nvm, found it. Edit 2: After reading http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qgskv/spoilers_yuuki_yuuna_wa_yuusha_de_aru_ending/ I like 1 even more and it does make sense and fits really well. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 29 2014 17:48 Emnjay808 wrote: Wow Toad, the quality of this dakimakura is amazing. Its so sugoi. The fabric is silky soft and the print looks really official. Good job man, I love it! Gonna take a picture of it in the morning when the lighting is better ![]() looking forward to it ![]() | ||
Miragee
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Leyra
United States1222 Posts
On December 30 2014 00:36 Miragee wrote: After Story is breaking my heart. Feeling a sob in my throat the entire time while watching, shedding tears. My oh my, why does it do this to me? I never expected this. Still 3 episodes left.... And that's why it's one of my (and many other peoples) favorites! :D It's actually so freaking good. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On December 30 2014 00:36 Miragee wrote: After Story is breaking my heart. Feeling a sob in my throat the entire time while watching, shedding tears. My oh my, why does it do this to me? I never expected this. Still 3 episodes left.... hope you have a box of napkins near by ![]() | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On December 29 2014 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote: Of course but my point is that it was made after FZ(anime) and if it is made by the same guys(ufotable), Saber should have some resemblance in her character from previous anime(FZ) and she doesn't have it, at least for now. All I am saying that UBW series is continuation from FZ series, and Saber from FZ feels like a completely different character than the one from UBW that we are seeing now. Saber is subtly different in FSN after her experiences in F/Z but she is still the same at her core. She gets even more development in the Fate route which she is the focus and the things from F/Z are explored even more. She is a half supporting character in the UBW route. Besides the source material for this was written before F/Z and they are sticking to the source. If anything it shows some of the weakness in F/Z (as a prequel) from a continuity standpoint but its relatively decent from that perspective anyway. If you really want to have your mind blown about character continuity you should read Fate/HA ![]() | ||
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