Anime Discussion Thread - Page 42

On June 11 2009 00:21 OmgIRok wrote:
um what the fuck ?

i'm on the 3rd episode of FMA:Brotherhood right now, and it's like the exact same as the original -_-...
gay
although the 1st episode i've never seen before...

FMA:Brotherhood IS a new series right?

On June 10 2009 23:56 Fluffy Pingu wrote:



Too many to list!!

Slice of life (my favourite genre ^^;; ): best one is Honey & Clover imo, other really good ones are Yotsuba&! (manga only), Azumanga Daioh (by the same mangaka), Nodame Cantabile, Genshiken (very otaku themed), Solanin (currently only manga form, but to be released as a live-action film next year), Bakuman (manga only), Maison Ikkoku (very old anime/manga), and many more...

Also watch all of Studio Ghibli films (all of them very good *hugs his totoro*). I would classify a lot of them as slice of life.

Scifi: you can't go past FMA, FMP, Cowboy Bebop, GitS, Bucanno!, Elfen Lied, Denno Coil, some of the Gundam series depending on your taste

Music: other than the ones you've mentioned, NANA is a must watch, Solanin is also music related, Piano no Mori (manga + live-action film, I don't think there is an anime). Also running along the same lines as showbiz, watch Skip Beat too

I might have missed some since it's 1am. But this should give you some to watch ^^

On June 10 2009 23:37 PH wrote:
Ah...Kara no Kyoukai...some of the best animation ever. I don't know about the depth of its philosophical implications, but it is definitely interesting to watch. Especially the fifth movie is a complete and total mind fuck. I love it.

On June 11 2009 00:21 OmgIRok wrote:
um what the fuck ?

i'm on the 3rd episode of FMA:Brotherhood right now, and it's like the exact same as the original -_-...
gay
although the 1st episode i've never seen before...

FMA:Brotherhood IS a new series right?

On June 11 2009 01:24 Fluffy Pingu wrote:
yeah
if you are been strict with your slice of life definitions - i.e. no real plot, I would put Azumanga Daioh, Yotsuba&!, Aria, Genshiken and YKK under that genre.
But i prefer a broader definition with slice of life elements mixed in.

On June 11 2009 00:50 lazy wrote:


Yea it's a really good series and you're right, it may not be that deep, but I tend to overanalyze everything, therefore anything out of the ordinary will make me think . Mind fuck eh? I haven't seen the 5th yet, but if has mind fucking potential then I guess I should watch it asap.

You know, you guys seem to lump a bunch of stuff into the slice of life genre heh. I like to break it down a bit.

First of all, for me, both clannad and honey and clover are more drama/romance than slice of life. Along with True tears, ef series, myself;yourself, air, kanon etc. <- not as much comedy in these but they still feel similar to clannad/honey and clover imo.

Then we have romance/comedy such as toradora, lovely complex, kannagi and others. I haven't seen much in this genre.

Slice of life/comedy such as strawberry marshmallow, lucky star, minami-ke, Azumanga Daiou etc.

Slice of life/romance - lamune< exact defintion and to lesser extents, suzuka, REC

And finally we get into what I consider the absolute definition of slice of life where absolutely nothing happens and is slow paced such as the Aria series.

Aria isn't slow-paced

On June 11 2009 03:11 triangle wrote:
O.o

Aria is the slowest show I've ever seen (admittedly, I'm only halfway through Natural but still.

On June 10 2009 18:56 PH wrote:
Ioannis, self-proclaimed king otaku...

Recommend me some slice of life-esque series (like Clannad, Toradora!, shit like that...)

Recommend me some good scifi (like Planetes, SDF-1 Macross, shit like that...)

Recommend me some good music series (like Beck, Nodame Cantabile, shit like that...)

If you don't, your "king otaku" title will not be recognized.

On June 11 2009 00:50 lazy wrote:


Yea it's a really good series and you're right, it may not be that deep, but I tend to overanalyze everything, therefore anything out of the ordinary will make me think . Mind fuck eh? I haven't seen the 5th yet, but if has mind fucking potential then I guess I should watch it asap.



You know, you guys seem to lump a bunch of stuff into the slice of life genre heh. I like to break it down a bit.

First of all, for me, both clannad and honey and clover are more drama/romance than slice of life. Along with True tears, ef series, myself;yourself, air, kanon etc. <- not as much comedy in these but they still feel similar to clannad/honey and clover imo.

Then we have romance/comedy such as toradora, lovely complex, kannagi and others. I haven't seen much in this genre.

Slice of life/comedy such as strawberry marshmallow, lucky star, minami-ke, Azumanga Daiou etc.

Slice of life/romance - lamune< exact defintion and to lesser extents, suzuka, REC

And finally we get into what I consider the absolute definition of slice of life where absolutely nothing happens and is slow paced such as the Aria series.

On June 11 2009 02:28 Ecael wrote:

Aria~ I do love that series so, especially the manga.



Don't worry, it is that deep, with the novel anyway. The animated version kept things simple yet retained a good amount of the implications, quite a good adaptation imo. Then again I am probably the biggest rakkyo fanboy in this thread.

Aria isn't slow-paced -.-

On June 11 2009 06:41 PH wrote:

You read the fan translated ones?

The animated versions were limited in their philosophical implications solely because they didn't see to explore anything outside its own boundaries. None of the movies ask greater questions with direct real-world applications, but deal with issues dealing with its own plot.

Personally, I really liked that limitation, because it keeps the movies honest and prevents them from becoming preach in any way.


And for everyone talking about Aria...it is as of yet the slowest paced anime I have come across...there is no denying that. That's part of its charm, though it makes it difficult to watch. I've only managed to get to episode six or so of the second season. I love the show, though. It's really fun in its lightheartedness.

On June 11 2009 06:51 Ziph wrote:
ARIA ~ Is so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood, I series <3 enjoyed that to the fullest.
I watched like 1episode a day on my laptop right before I went to bed ugh. This is also how you should watch this animu I guess.

Did anyone watch --Sola-- ? I Really like this one also, but almost nobody has seen it from my experience.

On June 11 2009 06:58 Ecael wrote:

I think the question popped up multiple times over this thread, from now on, unless I specify that I read/watch something translated, assume that I am talking about the raw. The fan-translated one is on hiatus due to it seeing licensing, I can't wait for the English translation to come out so I can complain about how it sucks~ :p

If you suggest that philosophical implications need to deal with real-world applications or a greater question, then no, the anime doesn't quite fit that. Or rather, the questions can be viewed as such, but the narrative style of the novel lends itself much more readily to further exploration whereas the anime doesn't. The limitation on the movies are more to allow a larger audience to view it than to limit the philosophical tone, largely because much of that is also tied in with how Nasu originally wrote it more or less as a primer to the type-moon universe.

Why is everyone saying that Aria is slow-paced Then again, I can't seem to get anyone to watch it without getting bored and complain about the pacing even though I read all of the manga (and aqua) in one night. Meh, more Alicia-san please.

On the topic of Aria, I find it highly a shame that we only have one real chapter of Alice interacting with Alicia, and there was practically no interaction between Alice and Akira.

On June 11 2009 06:16 Ioannis wrote:


Well dude :p I don't care if you don't accept me as an otaku i was just joking, i don't really take pride in it... although i actually am a huge anime guy and if you were the same as me i'd already know you from private irc channels in rizon and fansub group staff. I've seen almost every anime that's out there xept the shoujo ones.

For the Toradora! style animes there's tons out there, you can try school rumble, lucky star, ouran host club (maybe a bit gay but freaking hilalrious) there's like so many of those :o And also i can't believe you don't know GTO, gto is like an all time classic anime just liek kenshin and NGE, it's Great TEacher Onizuka, maybe you know it like that.

For sci fi there aren't that many anime out there, pure sci fi i mean, if you want mecha there's tons. Some good sci fi is Juuousei, Freedom, Heroic Age ( not that great if you've seen lots of anime of a similar genre), Toward the Terra (i really liekd that one some didn't like it dunno)

Dude Music anime is extinct, if you don't count DMC, k-on! and other comedy music anime there's only Beck which is entirely music (by the way the anime sucks, read the manga), there's also less musical anime like White album, Be Rockin`: Dedicated to Woman Tone, Nodame Cantabile and there's also shit like Nana which is kinda like shoujo heavy.

Also for that other dude that is looking for some action anime, kinda like kenshin check out History`s Strongest Disciple Kenichi which is quite awsome, dunno if someone recomended it already.

On June 11 2009 07:22 PH wrote:

I'm not saying that in order for a piece of media to have philosophical implications, it needs to have direct real-world applications. I only said that the Kara no Kyoukai anime films limited any philosophical discussion to directly serve the film, and didn't go beyond that.

Most anime in general, from what I've seen, really don't go very deep philosophically speaking. I don't read much manga, and I've only read one light novel before (fan translated Suzumiya Haruhi), and generally they're pretty much the same as far as depth goes.

Most tend to promote your average mainstream, hollywood-esque existential romantic individualism, though with an Asian twist (grounded in Confucian values still, somehow). Or more don't even go that far and come up with random mini-philosophies on life and existence that work with the plot and the characters, but have absolutely NO grounding beyond that. Those are hilarious.

Kara no Kyoukai, from what I've gathered from watching the films, doesn't have a plot grounded in reality enough to really be able to bring to the forefront anything that goes beyond the scope of the film's world. There are magicians, some thing called the Spiral of Origin, and magic eyes that can see the very seams of things and all that...the films played around with concepts unique to its own world very well and, like I said before, stuck to them to its own benefit.

Had they tried to branch out more, it would have worked against the films. I imagine it would have come off as them grabbing at thin air, trying to make the product deeper than it is or should be. The writers knew what they were going for, knew what they were writing about, and didn't overstep their bounds.

The only anime I've come across so far that really does bring up interesting things to think about beyond itself is Ghost in the Shell SAC. The two seasons of that show were quite fun both to watch and to think about.

I plan on picking up the Kara no Kyoukai light novels once they're translated into English...I hope the translations don't suck too bad.