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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 17:59:27
October 06 2010 17:13 GMT
#8341
Doubt it, Gilgamesh knows about the content within the Grail (as does a bunch of others), but the only one who seems to have any knowledge that it was a corruption from a previous War seems to be Avenger himself. At the very least, nothing in Zero suggested to me that any of those from the Third War knows about it.

EDIT - lol just got to OreImo, looks like all the titles from Kirino's collection are real. Probably. I bet they really all have imouto related contents too.

lol so many real titles, they don't even bother to disguise some of them hahaha
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
October 06 2010 18:54 GMT
#8342
On October 06 2010 21:48 konadora wrote:
where the fuck do you watch 5Ds :S


TKNP for High-Quality subs up to Episode 78.

Prismweapon/MrPrisman/PrismansBrother on Youtube for up to maybe the 110 or so.

MephistoDPMKII and SSJ3Ryo for the latest episodes (also Youtube subbers).
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 20:08:47
October 06 2010 20:08 GMT
#8343
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 06 2010 20:11 GMT
#8344
On October 07 2010 05:08 dronebabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 00:03 Southlight wrote:
On October 06 2010 17:42 dronebabo wrote:
wow i jizzed from the ubw action scenes lol

agreed with the dolphins. i thought they were hilariously out of place. i didn't get that part + Show Spoiler +
when gilgamesh was getting dragged into the black hole with his chain around emiya. who was the servant he was talking about?




+ Show Spoiler +

IIRC he was talking about turning Emiya into the Grail?
Also I think Archer "got killed" but I don't think he dissipated like you usually do (the purple dust). Might just have forgotten, though.

+ Show Spoiler +
dont think he was talking about emiya..he refers to it as 'that thing' and not 'you' (while he's looking at emiya, although this might be a bad translation) and also says it came after gilgamesh after losing its vessel

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't remember him talking about another servant when I read the VN, but it has been a while. The only thing I can think of is he is talking about Avenger, but I don't think he knows about him. :/
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
October 06 2010 20:16 GMT
#8345
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 06 2010 20:28 GMT
#8346
On October 07 2010 05:16 dronebabo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
only thing i can think of is 'it' being the holy grail, the vessel being shinji...but i dont remember the vn mentioning the holy grail being a servant lol

+ Show Spoiler +
The Avenger Servant "is" the Holy Grail, or something like that. At least, thats what I know from second hand knowledge. I never read Fate/hollow ataraxia, so I don't know anything beyond that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
October 06 2010 22:38 GMT
#8347
Something I got from animesuki.

If you watched Star Drivers and you were confused as to wtf was going on, then this link should help.

http://imperialx.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/fabulous-explanation/
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
October 06 2010 23:50 GMT
#8348
lol that's some pretty serious brother complex in Yosuga no Sora
watched the world god only knows too, meant to read the manga a while ago but yeah forgot somehow
seems interesting but in a way I felt it's kind of a letdown the girls won't be remembering after, I mean how ridiculous would it be for him to have to manage all his relationships + get new ones to complete his contract haha
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 00:04:26
October 07 2010 00:03 GMT
#8349
They change that part of the equation later on, when I last read it a few months ago it was going on about how exactly the 'memory loss' occurs. Besides, now he already has to juggle between Haqua, Elsie and Diane

Yosuga no Sora was considerably more focused about Sora's complex that I expected, that and it gave more detail about their childhood time at the clinic than even the game did lol.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
October 07 2010 00:21 GMT
#8350
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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
October 07 2010 00:36 GMT
#8351
wait what how do you know that already?
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 07 2010 00:38 GMT
#8352
He meant the past I think, though yeah it is kind of hilarious that he did that back then when he was also friendly with Akira. Stupid megane (or to use OreImo's term, jimiko) was the one route I didn't bother with at all.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 07 2010 01:24 GMT
#8353
On October 06 2010 21:28 Shizuru~ wrote:
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too freaking bad that Ilya got killed so brutally that early in the story, was expecting Beserker to put up abit mroe of a fight also.



At least it's different in the Visual Novel (:

On October 07 2010 05:28 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 05:16 dronebabo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
only thing i can think of is 'it' being the holy grail, the vessel being shinji...but i dont remember the vn mentioning the holy grail being a servant lol

+ Show Spoiler +
The Avenger Servant "is" the Holy Grail, or something like that. At least, thats what I know from second hand knowledge. I never read Fate/hollow ataraxia, so I don't know anything beyond that.

+ Show Spoiler +
It seems Avenger is possible because of Angra Mainyu+Holy Grail. The problem is that no one knows for sure so we need a story about the Third Holy Grail War =/
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 07 2010 02:00 GMT
#8354
On October 07 2010 02:06 Tyrio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 00:03 Southlight wrote:
On October 06 2010 17:42 dronebabo wrote:
wow i jizzed from the ubw action scenes lol

agreed with the dolphins. i thought they were hilariously out of place. i didn't get that part + Show Spoiler +
when gilgamesh was getting dragged into the black hole with his chain around emiya. who was the servant he was talking about?




+ Show Spoiler +

IIRC he was talking about turning Emiya into the Grail?
Also I think Archer "got killed" but I don't think he dissipated like you usually do (the purple dust). Might just have forgotten, though.

+ Show Spoiler +

I haven't read Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, only some brief and somewhat confusing summaries, but I think it's the 8th Servant, Avenger.


+ Show Spoiler +
Hm, he didn't say anything about a servant in the Visual Novel. So that's why I think that he was talking about Saber. Gilgamesh is very arrogant and he wants the Holy Grail, so what does the Holy Grail think with making him the core? The Holy Grail "can't" do that and it should take Saber instead. At least that would be one possibility.
Servants as core are useless anyway, so dunno. It's just the movie and maybe they wrote bs ^^
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 07 2010 02:13 GMT
#8355
Hmm, what he says in the novel:
く・・・あの出来損ないめ、同じサーヴァントでは核にならんとさえ判らぬか・・・!

Can't figure out what he's referring to tho ~_~
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 07 2010 02:14 GMT
#8356
if only I knew the context rofl
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 02:20:35
October 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8357
I tried looking, but I can't find any context, and no one seems to have touched on this sentence. It's as "out of the blue" as it is in the movie.
「あの出来損ない」 refers to
+ Show Spoiler +
either or both of Matou Shinji and the Grail, because the Grail is all that he's after, and Shinji was a failed vessel for the Grail
but then he says
おなじサーヴァント which is a bit bizarre...
As some have insinuated,
+ Show Spoiler +

Avenger
is probably the most understandable given the circumstances, but
+ Show Spoiler +

he shouldn't know of Avenger's existence

So... not sure.

Edit:
The overlying implication is that he's
+ Show Spoiler +
calling the grail a servant
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 07 2010 02:58 GMT
#8358
On October 07 2010 11:13 Southlight wrote:
Hmm, what he says in the novel:
く・・・あの出来損ないめ、同じサーヴァントでは核にならんとさえ判らぬか・・・!

Can't figure out what he's referring to tho ~_~

So, could you translate that for us? After all, most of us don't understand Japanese and I read only the mirror moon translation.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 07 2010 03:04 GMT
#8359
+ Show Spoiler +

That failure, does [ ] not even know that another servant cannot become a core!?

"That failure" I believe is linked to Shinji/Grail
"another servant" is a bit harder to have translated on the fly but it implies that [ ] is a servant and that [ ] trying to use "another servant" (in this case Gilga) is a futile effort.

The question is who [ ] is (who he's talking to). The implication is that he's calling the Grail a servant, but then you can justifiably ask, why is he doing that, given that he shouldn't know of Avenger.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 03:16:33
October 07 2010 03:11 GMT
#8360
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