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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
July 16 2014 14:27 GMT
#79681
Ao Haru Ride EP1 .. how do i watch this show ? + Show Spoiler +
i am cringing for almost every move the male and female MC does .. they are so goddamn annoying .. i think i'll drop this if i still won't like this the next couple of episodes
this is a quote
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
July 16 2014 14:38 GMT
#79682
SAO II doesnt have the same feeling :[
+ Show Spoiler +

The dramatic moments dont feel appropriate.
In SAO I people actually died when shit hit the fan, so I could understand the drama and seriousness of everyone's emotions/actions
When Sinon yells at the guy about his honor and not being a pussy over GGO's version of DayZ combat logging I just rofl'ed
Its a game, unless people are actually dying in the real world from it, its being way too overly dramatic.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 16 2014 14:46 GMT
#79683
Accel World took it to new heights. Though Kawahara learning how to actually write made up for it.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 16 2014 14:48 GMT
#79684
On July 16 2014 23:46 ragz_gt wrote:
Accel World took it to new heights. Though Kawahara learning how to actually write made up for it.

Not sure if learned how to write or your standards just got that much lower after SAO~
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 16 2014 15:26 GMT
#79685
pffft you didn't even read AW.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
July 16 2014 15:51 GMT
#79686
On July 16 2014 23:27 goody153 wrote:
Ao Haru Ride EP1 .. how do i watch this show ? + Show Spoiler +
i am cringing for almost every move the male and female MC does .. they are so goddamn annoying .. i think i'll drop this if i still won't like this the next couple of episodes

I warned you earlier about watching it if you don't enjoy generic shoujo lol.
#freeshauni
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-16 17:05:32
July 16 2014 16:45 GMT
#79687
On July 16 2014 23:27 goody153 wrote:
Ao Haru Ride EP1 .. how do i watch this show ? + Show Spoiler +
i am cringing for almost every move the male and female MC does .. they are so goddamn annoying .. i think i'll drop this if i still won't like this the next couple of episodes


Cringing....is only the beginning.
+ Show Spoiler +
FLEE YOU FOOL!
Never Knows Best.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50978 Posts
July 16 2014 17:05 GMT
#79688
On July 17 2014 01:45 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 23:27 goody153 wrote:
Ao Haru Ride EP1 .. how do i watch this show ? + Show Spoiler +
i am cringing for almost every move the male and female MC does .. they are so goddamn annoying .. i think i'll drop this if i still won't like this the next couple of episodes


Cringing....is only the beginning.
+ Show Spoiler +

FLEE YOU FOOL!

Cringing followed by a loooong period of self loathing.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2014 17:06 GMT
#79689
On July 17 2014 02:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 01:45 Slaughter wrote:
On July 16 2014 23:27 goody153 wrote:
Ao Haru Ride EP1 .. how do i watch this show ? + Show Spoiler +
i am cringing for almost every move the male and female MC does .. they are so goddamn annoying .. i think i'll drop this if i still won't like this the next couple of episodes


Cringing....is only the beginning.
+ Show Spoiler +

FLEE YOU FOOL!

Cringing followed by a loooong period of self loathing.


I skipped that step and went to rage.
Never Knows Best.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50978 Posts
July 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#79690
oh?

How is that working out for you?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2014 17:25 GMT
#79691
On July 17 2014 02:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
oh?

How is that working out for you?


Pretty good I must say, all things considered.
Never Knows Best.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
July 16 2014 17:53 GMT
#79692
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.
Writer
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-16 18:07:40
July 16 2014 18:07 GMT
#79693
On July 17 2014 02:53 Souma wrote:
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.


I watch 90% of this crap and 90% of the time the story starts and ends the same way.

edit: and I still like it
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 16 2014 18:11 GMT
#79694
On July 17 2014 03:07 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 02:53 Souma wrote:
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.


I watch 90% of this crap and 90% of the time the story starts and ends the same way.

edit: and I still like it


Story of my shoujo adventures
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 16 2014 18:49 GMT
#79695
On July 17 2014 03:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 03:07 tonight wrote:
On July 17 2014 02:53 Souma wrote:
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.


I watch 90% of this crap and 90% of the time the story starts and ends the same way.

edit: and I still like it


Story of my shoujo adventures


No joke. Everything I've read/watched has had the same base storyline, but I guess it comes with the genre.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 16 2014 18:52 GMT
#79696
On July 17 2014 03:49 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 03:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 17 2014 03:07 tonight wrote:
On July 17 2014 02:53 Souma wrote:
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.


I watch 90% of this crap and 90% of the time the story starts and ends the same way.

edit: and I still like it


Story of my shoujo adventures


No joke. Everything I've read/watched has had the same base storyline, but I guess it comes with the genre.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/191882/gekkan-shoujo-nozaki-kun_ch37_by_roselia-scanlations/5

Relevant.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 16 2014 18:59 GMT
#79697
Same boring crap, every single time, and I love every second of it.
Skol
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 16 2014 20:10 GMT
#79698
On July 17 2014 03:52 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 03:49 tonight wrote:
On July 17 2014 03:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 17 2014 03:07 tonight wrote:
On July 17 2014 02:53 Souma wrote:
Ao Haru Ride is the epitome of a typical shoujo.

I like it. Been a while since I watched a shoujo I think.


I watch 90% of this crap and 90% of the time the story starts and ends the same way.

edit: and I still like it


Story of my shoujo adventures


No joke. Everything I've read/watched has had the same base storyline, but I guess it comes with the genre.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/191882/gekkan-shoujo-nozaki-kun_ch37_by_roselia-scanlations/5

Relevant.


two thumbs up
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-16 21:02:46
July 16 2014 20:58 GMT
#79699
Ao Haru 2
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the second episode, she is now being true to herself and not hanging with bitch girl and her lacky, hopefully she makes friends with the two girls that are introduced
"You sons of a silly person"
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-16 22:23:19
July 16 2014 21:29 GMT
#79700
On July 16 2014 05:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yes, I think PMMM is successful for reasons other than Gen's script. Good production values and Kajiura music is great. Characters were by far the least interesting component of Madoka and the plot relied on a lot of shock value that got old really quickly. I liked everything else about it.

Also, I thought Psycho Pass was average.

Well, you used word "success" there, so I thought you were speaking about general viewers' reception
of both shows, not personal impression.

Psycho Pass is considered succesful in that regard, the sales were good despite low budget production, and it will have second seasond handled by Tow Ubukata, so sci-fi concepts should get harder, haha.

+ Show Spoiler [@Sentenal] +
On July 16 2014 06:06 Sentenal wrote:
Mecha is a hugely broad genre with tons of different types of shows, with incredibly varying tones, with a matching fanbase to boot. This is the same genre that has titles like GaoGaiGar, Armored Trooper Votoms, and Gundam Build Fighters umbrellaed into the same genre

Except all mentioned shows are made by Sunrise who made their entire career making sci-fi mecha shows (I haven't dropped a single watched one in my life so far, yay fucking Valvrave argh totally forget about it), but I get your general idea.

Let's change the sides for once - does this mean for you that mecha show is totally okay if there's nothing actually repulsive and/or offensive?

Zeta Gundam doesn't have the actual Zeta Gundam show up until like halfway through the series. ZZ Gundam didn't have the ZZ Gundam show up for a good bit as well, although it was well before the mid-point.

it's case of symantics, any Gundam named mech is kind of titular in Gundam show.

or Rayearth where mecha don't show up proper until like the last 2 or 3 eps of the first season

Does this show has any kind of mecha kits for sail to begin with? It's understandable if not.

Then you have stuff like Dancougar where it doesn't show up till like halfway through

Wow, can I befriend you for watching original Dancouga?)

Speaking as a very big fan of mecha, there isn't anything inherently offensive as a mecha fan in Aldanoah Zero. If a mecha fan does not like it, thats perfectly fine, but saying that all mecha fans should also not like it?

Well, the question was about discarding the show as a sci-fi/mecha fan, right? As a person, anyone can enjoy anything at any given moment, and that's totally fine, so I don't see any reason to ask me straight whether I really believe that no one can/should enjoy the show I ferociously bashed for straight 6+ hours all posts combined, because the answer will be "hell, no".

Discarding a show might not even mean that show is considered a bloody disaster or anything, it just doesn't do any justice to our beloved regulars. NGE, TTGL, CG S2 and GS-GSD, for example, are discarded by the largest part of /m/ audiience for entirely different reasons (one can deduct that mainsteam popularity=instant bad, haha), but nobody jumps at the gun if he liked the show despite the fact /m/ doesn't like to talk about it in general.

In our case, I can't fucking help but notice though that every of those series are miles ahead of Aldnoah.Zero in terms of production value and character work right from the episode one, and have original, not replicated after popular ones, mecha designs, so the given judgement is relatively justified if we agree with general consensus.

The little problem with that artifical logical inequation is that such comparison gives Aldnoah zero chance to succeed and that's exactly why no one in the thread wants to buy it, because if I judge the show on its own merit without taking in account creators' acknowledgements, experience, aviable resources, inspirations, similar works, target audience, all that fancy factors I used before - it would be difficult to say much about the subject, except how much I subconsciously liked/disliked it without actually listing the praises/complaints.

Basically, I can either go with past experience and current knowledge in hand for objective analysis or try to telegraph my emotional responses relying on a personal preferences - and in my eyes both ways obviously suck for discussion, there should be some sort of balance. Therefore, the question about how justified such quality judgements can be isn't depended on a taste issues per say, despite many people thinking that way, but rather on a general approach towards discussion itself.

That's why my 'reviews' may come as a overgeneralised and nitpicking much, when it wasn't really the purpose itself (because trying to establish and impose the order of intangible things at Web leads absolutely nowhere), but barely the means of prioritizing the addition of non-trivial information into the "pot", which should theoretically benefit all the participants.

Heck, the only reason I started it in a first place, it's the idea of improvement. It's not like I try to downgrade every show I've unfortunately watched or something, right?

On July 16 2014 07:14 Sentenal wrote:
On one hand, you talk about Akame ga Kill and the studio that made it, and that studio's past work. And then, with Aldnoah( Zero, instead of talking about the studio, you start talking about the Director? KnK and F/Z were both made by Ufotable. Its almost unfair to compare the visuals of any anime to one of those, unless its like something from KyoAni or a really high budget Sunrise project like Gundam Unicorn.

Aoki is the head of TROYCA studio, which afaik consists of AIC's and I.G's past employees, and AZero is their first project up to date.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
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