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On November 19 2013 05:23 TanKLoveR wrote:
Am I the only person here who doesn't know all these different genre names and stuff? No idea what a Josei is until I googled it just now, I watched H&C not knowing this, don't think it's too different from other romance shows. Doesn't look too different from a shoujo anime to me, but I could be wrong.
I didn't know earlier either so I googled it as well lol. I doubt it's different, was just speculating is all. Still need to do your WA2 response lol
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Honey and Clover is awesome. One of my favorites.
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On November 19 2013 05:41 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 05:23 TanKLoveR wrote:
Am I the only person here who doesn't know all these different genre names and stuff? No idea what a Josei is until I googled it just now, I watched H&C not knowing this, don't think it's too different from other romance shows. Doesn't look too different from a shoujo anime to me, but I could be wrong. I didn't know earlier either so I googled it as well lol. I doubt it's different, was just speculating is all. Still need to do your WA2 response lol
I googled it but I didn't see anything that told me so these are the differences between Josei and Shoujo, same thing as far as I'm concernd. Yeah you owe me TWO responses, one to my last post about what we were discussing and one to my GREAT WALL OF TEXT!!. I'm taking away your pet polar bear if you don't respond today  .
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Did you google and managed to miss wikipedia entries?
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On November 19 2013 06:07 Ecael wrote:
Did you google and managed to miss wikipedia entries?
I only read a few lines of the entry, didn't see anything different and moved on lol. But I found another link, apparently Josei is aimed at 18+ girls and Shoujo at younger girls  . They are basically the same though lol, maybe shoujo could be more silly but that's it. Wonder under what genre White album and WA2 fall though.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Arpeggio
+ Show Spoiler +All this Takao service ;;, no mini Takao's though  , honestly this anime original train?Not that bad, its definitely not as good as the manga but its a fun ride so far.
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^I was about to click on the spoiler, and then realized I haven't watched the latest episode yet!
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On November 19 2013 06:17 TanKLoveR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 06:07 Ecael wrote:
Did you google and managed to miss wikipedia entries? I only read a few lines of the entry, didn't see anything different and moved on lol. But I found another link, apparently Josei is aimed at 18+ girls and Shoujo at younger girls . They are basically the same though lol, maybe shoujo could be more silly but that's it. Wonder under what genre White album and WA2 fall though.
It's a fairly blurry line. Most of the time the difference is the age of the protagonist (working instead of school), or the amount of emphasis on character over plot.
But honestly it comes down to what demographic the editor/producer thinks the story would appeal to more.
Of course, half the fun is popping the "maturity" bubble of people who think they're above shounen without understanding the terms (or assuming they're parallel to MPAA ratings). Always amusing to tell someone that Death Note is shounen and K-On is seinen.
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On November 19 2013 06:29 Kipsate wrote:Arpeggio + Show Spoiler +All this Takao service ;;, no mini Takao's though , honestly this anime original train?Not that bad, its definitely not as good as the manga but its a fun ride so far.
+ Show Spoiler +soooo goood though :3
Yeah storywise they're still drifting away from the manga to get a proper ending in a 1 cour anime and I guess everyone knows what that means but everything else got A LOT closer to the manga in this most recent episode.
The scene between Iona and hyuuga is taken exactly from the anime, even with the weird faces and Iona actually looked like she's not mentally handicapped in that situation, so that's a massive plus.
All the takao service was obviously awesome
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Shounen, Seinen, Shoujo, and Josei are some of the most useless genre classifications in existence when trying to refer to the content of an anime.
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Shoujo and Josei is decently useful, seinen and shounen though are pretty damned useless.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
As one of the most underwatched anime in ADT, I hereby order everyone here to watch Gakuen Alice.
That is all.
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On November 19 2013 07:31 Ecael wrote:
Shoujo and Josei is decently useful, seinen and shounen though are pretty damned useless.
Not completely useless, it really depends on what you're using the classifications for.
For example, if you want sci-fi where there's war and people die, yeah, completely useless. But if you prefer hard sci-fi (GUNNM, for example) over soft sci-fi (like...Index-verse? Someone remind me of another shounen sci-fi), then seinen is a fairly good guideline.
Or even comparing two very similar manga like YKK (seinen) or Aria (shounen), the former has a lot more emphasis on the world changing and questioning why things are happening (even if they're never explained), while the latter just let's the mysteries come and go.
The difference isn't really what content is in the stories, it's about where the emphasis is placed.
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Shounen and Seinen have nothing to do with how hard scifi is or isn't.
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On November 19 2013 07:59 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 07:31 Ecael wrote:
Shoujo and Josei is decently useful, seinen and shounen though are pretty damned useless. Not completely useless, it really depends on what you're using the classifications for. For example, if you want sci-fi where there's war and people die, yeah, completely useless. But if you prefer hard sci-fi (GUNNM, for example) over soft sci-fi (like...Index-verse? Someone remind me of another shounen sci-fi), then seinen is a fairly good guideline. Or even comparing two very similar manga like YKK (seinen) or Aria (shounen), the former has a lot more emphasis on the world changing and questioning why things are happening (even if they're never explained), while the latter just let's the mysteries come and go. The difference isn't really what content is in the stories, it's about where the emphasis is placed.
Eh, I am not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that the two show a different emphasis on the type of content? If so, sure they do, but the distinction is eclectic enough to make them useless as categories to sort preferences with. The differences between josei and shoujo tends to be more uniform as to make them not completely worthless in that regard.
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On November 19 2013 05:02 BigFan wrote:
I didn't mean it that way even though I wrote the wrong comment lol. I meant that I don't know what to expect from a Josei anime since I've never watched one before, not that that matters anyways. I also skimmed the first episode, seemed ok but I would need to watch more of it before I make my judgement.
I wasn't too impressed with it after the first couple of episodes (yeah, "seemed ok"), but it's amazing later on.
Don't let the josei etc. stuff bother you, they're just demographic groups (i.e. target audience of the magazine the manga was published in).
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I think I own the first volume of Gakuen Alice. Got it for €2.
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From what I read and watched I thought Shoujo was idealized love like the guy fawning over the female MC (maid-sama, Sukitte, Ouran host club). Where Josei would be more realistic love, the best example it gave was Honey and Clover. Have not watched it yet so I can't confirm.
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On November 19 2013 08:09 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 07:59 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 19 2013 07:31 Ecael wrote:
Shoujo and Josei is decently useful, seinen and shounen though are pretty damned useless. Not completely useless, it really depends on what you're using the classifications for. For example, if you want sci-fi where there's war and people die, yeah, completely useless. But if you prefer hard sci-fi (GUNNM, for example) over soft sci-fi (like...Index-verse? Someone remind me of another shounen sci-fi), then seinen is a fairly good guideline. Or even comparing two very similar manga like YKK (seinen) or Aria (shounen), the former has a lot more emphasis on the world changing and questioning why things are happening (even if they're never explained), while the latter just let's the mysteries come and go. The difference isn't really what content is in the stories, it's about where the emphasis is placed. Eh, I am not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that the two show a different emphasis on the type of content? If so, sure they do, but the distinction is eclectic enough to make them useless as categories to sort preferences with. The differences between josei and shoujo tends to be more uniform as to make them not completely worthless in that regard.
Again, it depends entirely on what preferences you're trying to sort by. If you say "I want a story that focuses on world building", then the seinen and shounen distinction is actually really useful. Or you want a manga about life after high school.
Josei and shoujo just seem more uniform because they cover less genres in general (far less fantasy/sci-fi/extreme supernatural), and because there's a stereotypical art-style. But there's still a lot of josei that look like shoujo on the surface, especially using western values.
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