Anime Discussion Thread - Page 3282

We got a lot of Taiga in the anime, much much more than either Minori or Ami so it's not surprising what the end result was imo. There was nothing wrong with Taiga's character lol. You're just being bias because Minor or Ami didn't win even if you say otherwise

Yes, I know he spent time hung up on her but that's my point. It almost felt like an obsession at one point. My point is simple. He wanted to protect her and make sure she's fine. That's all good, I agree. Get her to smile again etc... It just felt like he liked her mostly from his earlier crush which dragged on. His mom was being ridiculous. Made me wonder why they allowed her to go so far. He liked both, I never denied that part. Noe was a bit weird but if you listen to her background stories, you can see what she means. It's like she talks in secret code that you need to interpret and such but the message makes sense at the end. My point is, I don't think he liked Himori as much as Noe. You haven't watched the anime recently so I can't fault you for not remembering how much he balled his eyes out at the end when he decided to reject her. He honestly looked demented. To me, almost felt like he was saying he loved Himori and trying to prove it to himself. Noe is such a nice person and I think they wanted to show that she changed so she started to see other people's emotions which is why she accepted his decision and started to make her own decisions from that point. She still looked at his written message to her though, that he likes her from when they started dating so she obviously likes him still but is trying to be strong. Ya, weeks after weeks must be rough but again, I don't think week after week would be that bad.

I never said easier. I said more compatible. He loved Noe, she loved him and their relationship grew very naturally. To me, I saw their relationship in a much better light than his and Himori which felt like it was due to an old crush even though she supposedly liked him from a while back. I never disagreed on that part. Mostly saying that I think he should've stuck by Noe because she was the one who truly made his heart shake. cmon, I know you don't remember but when was the last time he cried so badly for Himori? If you have time, take a quick peek at the last episode when they are in the small bus station or w/e it was. You can TELL he was literally fighting himself to say no because it LOOKED like he was thinking that it was a mistake. To me, that was enough to say that he rejected Noe just due to his old crush that he was hung up on and it disappoints me that the show went in that direction when it could've went in another, totally different and imo better direction. I was actually cheering for him and Himori to end up together at one point but once Noe entered the equation and I saw how happy she was with him and his feelings growing towards her, I couldn't help but feel that she was the one most compatible to him. This whole idea of having to stick to the older love interest gets tiresome really fast in some of these animes. At least in Toradora, that changed and it wasn't like a static rule that always has to happen.

I do remember the scene you're referring to, how could I forget that scene? of ALL the things that happened that's the one I remember the most. Your logic is flawed though, Oh he cried a lot so that means he cared more about one over the other because he doesn't cry that much about the other one.... I don't cry when it comes to girls, do I just not care? You would have a hard time deciding if and who I care about the most in this scenario then if this is all you're basing this on. What I'm saying is about Noe is that they mostly showed the good parts of a relationship with her, when you first meet someone is awesome and you think it will last forever blah blah bs, but it doesn't, problems start to crop up and what not. The guy was too young they were all really young, so of course they were going to cry their eyes out in these situations a break up is never easy when you're a kid. The situation with Noe was a bit biased because they showed the good bits, with Hiromi they had to go through that fucking hurdle with the parents and what not, that lady was a fucking cunt seriously, the father is also to blame for not doing anything oh yeah it's cool bully the poor girl... fucker. So of course you can say "Well their relationship isn't as good as his relationship with Noe because they don't look happy"... but that's dumb.

He liked Hiromi and was willing to having to FIX all that crap and misunderstandings before being in a relationship with her, Noe was just a "rebound" a transition between his relationship with Hiromi, simple as that. I'm not saying he didn't love her, he did but she wasn't obviously the end goal in his mind. I don't think he regret anything, when you make these types of decisions you always doubt yourself, I can see why someone might be immediately regretful about something but saying "Oh he cried a lot so that means he regrets breaking up with her" is just not the case here, he was just sad, it was a sad situation for both parts regardless and their age didn't help. In the end the relationship with Noe seemed better because they didn't have baggage and all that past he had with Hiromi, I'm sure if they showed you what happens next with Hiromi after the show ends, he would look just as happy since they finally got over what was stopping them. You had to think how much that lady affected Hiromi, I mean didn't her parents die or something? and this lady was supposed to be the mother figure now but she spends all her time literally bullying her, how can anyone not be depressed. They had to clear all of that, fix their relationship before she could really think about the guy and all of that. I liked the ending, I thought it made sense he ended with Hiromi, not because he just had an old crush but because that was the girl he REALLY liked. Tears mean nothing

He asks his father prior to that when he cries. The answer: when the heart is shaken. To me, it was confirmation that he felt something very strongly for her. This is from the anime, not making this up although the last bit is my interpretation of it. I'm using what is in the anime to determine that he loved her a lot and that, it was on par or greater than Himori. yes, I know they showed the good parts but they could've showed the bad ones if they wanted to. I don't think it's a good idea to use that against the point that Noe would've been a better person to end up with him based on what we saw. I never said their relationship was worse. As I previously mentioned, I thought he liked them both equally and that he ended up with Himori only because of how older his love for her was(his crush).

Maybe originally, Noe was a rebound when he was having problems with Hiromi and since he thought he was doing Hiromi a favour since he got her to date Noe's brother but then he learned to love her for who she is. Always thinking of her even when he was talking to Hiromi. I think we're both being selective lol. Even when he went with Hiromi to the beach, he was thinking of Noe throughout lol. Maybe she wasn't the end goal but I honestly think he was really considering Noe and chose Hiromi because of the crush, because he was hung up on it for so long. Yes, you're right. Part of breaking up is fighting the tears and such.

I think you're missing my point: I think he would've been happy with either one but if I had to chose an ending based on what we saw, I feel that Noe was the better fit because I felt that he was truly thinking of her more and their love developed properly? Not sure what the term is. Him thinking of Himori was more akin to being obsessed with her from the past imo. It's like when you think back to your first love(look at capped's blog in the blog section) even though you should've moved on. It'll happen and I think that heavily impacted his decision making. You're right, mother was horrible and she changed Himori's to a worse person although she kinda recovers. Again, not disagreeing that the family situation has to be fixed but I found that he was thinking more about Noe as time passed and less about Himori until like the last episode when he told her that she always win after she told him to face them both. I guess the only consolation is that Noe accepted his decision because she 'saw' Himori in his heart. I do feel not talking to her again(at least ending of last episode) was a punch to the face though lol.

Setsuna took the first step though. Touma didn't for whatever reason although it's likely because he called her a person and Setsuna a girl lol.

since the show ended when L died, so regardless of me wanting Kira to win it didn't matter once we didn't have L around anymore

Yeah basically that's what happened, Setsuna takes the first round, she delivered the first punch and she takes it. I think Touma COULD HAVE done something before that conversation but she didn't, like she said she's never been in love before so I don't think she was sure what to do (Maybe she assumed Haruki would take the first step?). Setsuna did because well she's Setsuna and she's a lot more confident, she wanted Haruki and since he didn't make the first move she went ahead and did it herself ( I have to admit I liked that about her :o, I like girls who do that lol ). I think Haruki said that because she REALLY respects Touma because of how awesome she is, which I don't think implies he wouldn't have feelings for her but Haruki is so fucking wishy washy about this I hate him a little lol CONFESS TO SOMEONE YOU DICK!. I think we have to hear it from Haruki to see who ends up with who and who ENDS UP WITH A DEPRESSED LOOK AT A TRAIN STATION :p. Really want to see the after effects in the next episode, if Haruki starts acting all boyfriendy then I guess we have our answer.

I just figured there were more developments, feelings and such between Nakagami and Noe and that it was on par with Hiromi. It didn't help that Hiromi seemed like the typical really beautiful, athletic and popular girl that is widely seen in most animes.

I agree. I think Touma was inexperienced and didn't know what to do. Setsuna saw the chance and jumped on the opportunity and well, ended up with him. I don't think many girls would take the initiative to do that though. Even Setsuna said that she was hoping that he would be the one to do it first or rather wanted him to. Well, he's probably unsure of his feelings and wanted to maintain the light band. Makes sense to me from that perspective. Well, next episode is another major one imo. As you mentioned, we get to see how he interacts with Setsuna after her confession and how Touma takes it if she finds out. Keep in mind that Haruki never said that he liked Setsuna, just that he admired her as a person. Admire != like lol.