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On October 10 2013 03:36 maru~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 01:37 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 01:35 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:28 ragz_gt wrote:On October 10 2013 01:26 maru~ wrote:On October 09 2013 21:54 mofuli wrote:On October 09 2013 21:36 Spaiku wrote:
I'm watching Saki. Mahjong is always fun but why are they lesbians? People watch saki for yuri, not mahjong. Why not both? Well, because the mahjong part makes no sense... I don't see a problem with that. That's like saying you watch Yugioh because of the card game. What you are watching with Saki isn't mahjong, but some alien game with tiles that look like mahjong and patterns of winning like mahjong. Considering how the entire process of winning has nothing to do with the game known as mahjong, it might as well as not be mahjong. Just as how taking a deck of cards, randomly picking out a royal flush and declaring yourself a win isn't poker, nor should what Saki have be called mahjong. It's mahjong with super powers, so what? Plenty of sport/game anime are unrealistic and over the top, and often it's part of the charm (as is the case with Saki imo). Okay, I guess there's a misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I enjoyed watching the games, i.e. I wasn't just watching for the yuri. I'm wondering though, what do you watch Yugioh for then?
I certainly wouldn't say I watched YGO for the card game, no. Watching it for the lol TRAP CARD ACTIVATE, maybe, as is the case with Saki. Superpowers make the game stop being mahjong, because nothing that applies to mahjong actually applies to the superpowers. It is fine to enjoy things that are over the top, sure, but don't say that you are watching them for the respective sports/games when the mechanics of them are completely different.
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On October 10 2013 03:42 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 03:36 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:37 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 01:35 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:28 ragz_gt wrote:On October 10 2013 01:26 maru~ wrote:On October 09 2013 21:54 mofuli wrote:On October 09 2013 21:36 Spaiku wrote:
I'm watching Saki. Mahjong is always fun but why are they lesbians? People watch saki for yuri, not mahjong. Why not both? Well, because the mahjong part makes no sense... I don't see a problem with that. That's like saying you watch Yugioh because of the card game. What you are watching with Saki isn't mahjong, but some alien game with tiles that look like mahjong and patterns of winning like mahjong. Considering how the entire process of winning has nothing to do with the game known as mahjong, it might as well as not be mahjong. Just as how taking a deck of cards, randomly picking out a royal flush and declaring yourself a win isn't poker, nor should what Saki have be called mahjong. It's mahjong with super powers, so what? Plenty of sport/game anime are unrealistic and over the top, and often it's part of the charm (as is the case with Saki imo). Okay, I guess there's a misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I enjoyed watching the games, i.e. I wasn't just watching for the yuri. I'm wondering though, what do you watch Yugioh for then? I certainly wouldn't say I watched YGO for the card game, no. Watching it for the lol TRAP CARD ACTIVATE, maybe, as is the case with Saki. Superpowers make the game stop being mahjong, because nothing that applies to mahjong actually applies to the superpowers. It is fine to enjoy things that are over the top, sure, but don't say that you are watching them for the respective sports/games when the mechanics of them are completely different.
Where do you draw the line though? Or is an anime that features something that is not possible in reality automatically disqualified from being about the respective sport/game?
Anyway, I explained what I meant in my last post.
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On October 09 2013 11:48 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 11:13 XenOmega wrote:On October 09 2013 03:34 Sentenal wrote:
Log Horizon may eventually be a harem, but after just episode 1, idk what the problem is. Since when does the existence of just 2 girls make a harem? While I don't super big anime experience to back up my fear, but seeing a main character with whom girls are attracted to for no particular reasons is a big red alert to me ^^ That said, I'll keep watching. Maybe it'll turn out good, who knows? Did you start watching Macross Frontier and immediately think "god damnit, another harem show"?
But but but but it turned out to "god damnit, the animation and the soundtrack are insane. Gimme moar Ranka"
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On October 10 2013 04:10 maru~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 03:42 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 03:36 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:37 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 01:35 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:28 ragz_gt wrote:On October 10 2013 01:26 maru~ wrote:On October 09 2013 21:54 mofuli wrote:On October 09 2013 21:36 Spaiku wrote:
I'm watching Saki. Mahjong is always fun but why are they lesbians? People watch saki for yuri, not mahjong. Why not both? Well, because the mahjong part makes no sense... I don't see a problem with that. That's like saying you watch Yugioh because of the card game. What you are watching with Saki isn't mahjong, but some alien game with tiles that look like mahjong and patterns of winning like mahjong. Considering how the entire process of winning has nothing to do with the game known as mahjong, it might as well as not be mahjong. Just as how taking a deck of cards, randomly picking out a royal flush and declaring yourself a win isn't poker, nor should what Saki have be called mahjong. It's mahjong with super powers, so what? Plenty of sport/game anime are unrealistic and over the top, and often it's part of the charm (as is the case with Saki imo). Okay, I guess there's a misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I enjoyed watching the games, i.e. I wasn't just watching for the yuri. I'm wondering though, what do you watch Yugioh for then? I certainly wouldn't say I watched YGO for the card game, no. Watching it for the lol TRAP CARD ACTIVATE, maybe, as is the case with Saki. Superpowers make the game stop being mahjong, because nothing that applies to mahjong actually applies to the superpowers. It is fine to enjoy things that are over the top, sure, but don't say that you are watching them for the respective sports/games when the mechanics of them are completely different. Where do you draw the line though? Or is an anime that features something that is not possible in reality automatically disqualified from being about the respective sport/game? Anyway, I explained what I meant in my last post.
It is up to you to decide whether you want to make a range of what's physically possible and compare the bullshit they throw out or simply go with how well suspension of disbelief is done. Generally though, with board games, most of the ones that do care about realism tend to show actual matches that came up in their research. With sports, the figures they give are generally within the physical capabilities of a human being of whatever age they are in. There is definitely exaggeration among all of those simply as a hook to the audience, but if you can see that there is an attempt to ground most of it in reality then that's good enough.
Whatever the case though, Saki falls well out of what anyone can consider to be about mahjong.
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On October 09 2013 23:07 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 15:53 RuskiPanda wrote:
Think im watching almost every hanazawa work this season :o. tokyo ravens not half bad. I mentioned this on the irc, but I'll say it again here. Hanakana for Natsume was eh, but I suppose there are chances for her yet. Sakura Ayane was great though, making Suzuka doing needless service type shit is whatever. CGs aren't good but are watchable. The plot though. If it is one cour we'll get shafted because it ends in the middle of something or never gets anything going. If it is two cours we'll still get shafted because the author is only half done with the series. No way out.
Grrr... kinda makes me want to learn japanese to read these fail LN adaptions but then I remember how hard it is  . Sometimes there's a manga tho but usually the translation starts getting dropped off once an anime for it comes out like this show or zetsuen tempest.
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On October 10 2013 04:21 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 04:10 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 03:42 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 03:36 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:37 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 01:35 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 01:28 ragz_gt wrote:On October 10 2013 01:26 maru~ wrote:On October 09 2013 21:54 mofuli wrote:On October 09 2013 21:36 Spaiku wrote:
I'm watching Saki. Mahjong is always fun but why are they lesbians? People watch saki for yuri, not mahjong. Why not both? Well, because the mahjong part makes no sense... I don't see a problem with that. That's like saying you watch Yugioh because of the card game. What you are watching with Saki isn't mahjong, but some alien game with tiles that look like mahjong and patterns of winning like mahjong. Considering how the entire process of winning has nothing to do with the game known as mahjong, it might as well as not be mahjong. Just as how taking a deck of cards, randomly picking out a royal flush and declaring yourself a win isn't poker, nor should what Saki have be called mahjong. It's mahjong with super powers, so what? Plenty of sport/game anime are unrealistic and over the top, and often it's part of the charm (as is the case with Saki imo). Okay, I guess there's a misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I enjoyed watching the games, i.e. I wasn't just watching for the yuri. I'm wondering though, what do you watch Yugioh for then? I certainly wouldn't say I watched YGO for the card game, no. Watching it for the lol TRAP CARD ACTIVATE, maybe, as is the case with Saki. Superpowers make the game stop being mahjong, because nothing that applies to mahjong actually applies to the superpowers. It is fine to enjoy things that are over the top, sure, but don't say that you are watching them for the respective sports/games when the mechanics of them are completely different. Where do you draw the line though? Or is an anime that features something that is not possible in reality automatically disqualified from being about the respective sport/game? Anyway, I explained what I meant in my last post. It is up to you to decide whether you want to make a range of what's physically possible and compare the bullshit they throw out or simply go with how well suspension of disbelief is done. Generally though, with board games, most of the ones that do care about realism tend to show actual matches that came up in their research. With sports, the figures they give are generally within the physical capabilities of a human being of whatever age they are in. There is definitely exaggeration among all of those simply as a hook to the audience, but if you can see that there is an attempt to ground most of it in reality then that's good enough. Whatever the case though, Saki falls well out of what anyone can consider to be about mahjong.
I see, fair enough.
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On October 10 2013 04:23 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 23:07 Ecael wrote:On October 09 2013 15:53 RuskiPanda wrote:
Think im watching almost every hanazawa work this season :o. tokyo ravens not half bad. I mentioned this on the irc, but I'll say it again here. Hanakana for Natsume was eh, but I suppose there are chances for her yet. Sakura Ayane was great though, making Suzuka doing needless service type shit is whatever. CGs aren't good but are watchable. The plot though. If it is one cour we'll get shafted because it ends in the middle of something or never gets anything going. If it is two cours we'll still get shafted because the author is only half done with the series. No way out. Grrr... kinda makes me want to learn japanese to read these fail LN adaptions but then I remember how hard it is . Sometimes there's a manga tho but usually the translation starts getting dropped off once an anime for it comes out like this show or zetsuen tempest.
Japanese, super easy language. 1 year of an uni course should be more than enough to get you reading with aids like rikai-chan or translator aggregator.
People stopped translating zetsuen no tempest because they realize how shit it is.
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Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_-
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On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_-
I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese.
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On October 10 2013 04:53 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_- I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese.
What's your mother tongue?
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On October 10 2013 04:54 maru~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 04:53 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_- I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese. What's your mother tongue?
Mandarin Chinese, I might need to account for the possibility that my grandparents using Japanese frequently when they aren't using Taiwanese counted for something. But then again my Taiwanese remains shit to this day so~
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Japanese is easy. As with any language, the vocabulary is the most daunting part. Obenkyo app for Android is nice.
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On October 10 2013 04:56 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 04:54 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 04:53 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_- I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese. What's your mother tongue? Mandarin Chinese, I might need to account for the possibility that my grandparents using Japanese frequently when they aren't using Taiwanese counted for something. But then again my Taiwanese remains shit to this day so~
Well, for someone who only knows languages that use a Latin script alphabet it's probably harder to get into Japanese compared to someone who knows Chinese. Also, I would assume Chinese and Japanese have more in common than random Western language and Japanese?
Afaik, English and Spanish are considered (in the West) to be rather easy languages, as opposed to Japanese.
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Japanese is kinda easy to get into. It just helps if you know something like Arabic, Korean or Chinese that isn't latin alphabet to ease the learning path. But I think that it is a really minor part. As Michael said, just vocabulary and kanji grind is kinda urk.
Though I am hardly fluent yet. Gotta grind more kanji, only know a couple hundred at the moment. But I think that Japanese is probably the second easiest language I've had to learn, after English. But I learnt English at a really young age and I've always had it easy for English so for an average person Japanese would probably be the easiest. Shit like Spanish, French etc is a lot harder.
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On October 10 2013 05:42 maru~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 04:56 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:54 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 04:53 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_- I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese. What's your mother tongue? Mandarin Chinese, I might need to account for the possibility that my grandparents using Japanese frequently when they aren't using Taiwanese counted for something. But then again my Taiwanese remains shit to this day so~ Well, for someone who only knows languages that use a Latin script alphabet it's probably harder to get into Japanese compared to someone who knows Chinese. Also, I would assume Chinese and Japanese have more in common than random Western language and Japanese? Afaik, English and Spanish are considered (in the West) to be rather easy languages, as opposed to Japanese.
Spanish is definitely easy. The idea of English being easy is the biggest misconception that I've seen out of the English speaking countries where people hardly have a good grasp of the language.
For someone who know languages that use a Latin script, Japanese is already fairly intuitive in having kanas. Chinese actually has little in common with with Japanese other than the kanji, which is a trap half of the time. I think a lot of westerners are just needlessly intimidated by the kanjis and large number of alphabets in this matter.
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On October 10 2013 05:51 Elem wrote:
It just helps if you know something like Arabic, Korean or Chinese that isn't latin alphabet to ease the learning path. But I think that it is a really minor part.
On October 10 2013 05:57 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:42 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 04:56 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:54 maru~ wrote:On October 10 2013 04:53 Ecael wrote:On October 10 2013 04:51 XenOmega wrote:
Is it really that easy to learn Japanese? My brother got 1 class at Uni, but I don't know how good he is ; he doesn't read manga, he doesn't really watch anime except for what I show him -_- I personally think Japanese is the easiest language I've learned so far between English, Spanish, Chinese and Japanese. What's your mother tongue? Mandarin Chinese, I might need to account for the possibility that my grandparents using Japanese frequently when they aren't using Taiwanese counted for something. But then again my Taiwanese remains shit to this day so~ Well, for someone who only knows languages that use a Latin script alphabet it's probably harder to get into Japanese compared to someone who knows Chinese. Also, I would assume Chinese and Japanese have more in common than random Western language and Japanese? Afaik, English and Spanish are considered (in the West) to be rather easy languages, as opposed to Japanese. I think a lot of westerners are just needlessly intimidated by the kanjis and large number of alphabets in this matter.
Looks like that's the issue, huh?
Thanks for the insight.
I'm definitely going to learn Japanese. One day...
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Still seems easier for me to learn another european language cuz u already recognise stuff like plural/singular nouns and verbs . Structure of sentence is similar etc. If i wanted to pick op italian, or learn french better i'dd just pick up a book and a dictionary and start reading. Same for germanic languages. But i've no idea where i'dd have to start with learning japanese ^_^.
How similar is it to some western languages anyway? Edit: i''l just wiki it, sucks i don't know all these linguistic terms, makes reading about languages a chore.
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On October 09 2013 00:34 ragz_gt wrote:You should watch the first season then... Hime Oneesama was much cooler, tsundere song notwithstanding.
i dled the first season, i think this new show is so much more better. art, animation, writing as a whole blow it away. i dont know if theres a manga for it so i cant comment on what they did to the character redesigns but i like them much more in the new show as well. just hope it isnt first episode only shenangians
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On October 10 2013 06:08 Algis wrote:
Still seems easier for me to learn another european language cuz u already recognise stuff like plural/singular nouns and verbs . Structure of sentence is similar etc. If i wanted to pick op italian, or learn french better i'dd just pick up a book and a dictionary and start reading. Same for germanic languages. But i've no idea where i'dd have to start with learning japanese ^_^.
How similar is it to some western languages anyway? Edit: i''l just wiki it, sucks i don't know all these linguistic terms, makes reading about languages a chore.
Eh, European languages are fairly similar so that's a fair point, but Japanese is not as foreign as you'd think. I personally felt like Japanese was closer to English than Chinese.
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I started watching Aria recently and I realized there's a severe lack of ara ara in today's anime industry.
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