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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 14 2013 00:17 GMT
#59521
MAL gave Urusei friggin Yatsura a 7.9, it can go suck a goat.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:20:45
July 14 2013 00:19 GMT
#59522
Oh boy...

On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously

Then why is it implausible that they might be underrating MJP as well? I haven't seen it though.

This season looks better than the last one so far. I assume you haven't watched the prequels to the sequels of this season and dislike cute girls shows, but even then there's still good stuff. Maou-sama, Yahari and Gargantia were good, but not as great as you make them out to be. Haven't seen Valvrave, I agree that "so bad it's good" is bullshit though.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 14 2013 00:25 GMT
#59523
On July 14 2013 09:11 Phemtos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:08 Maxie wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously but some shows up there are pretty legit. Also if you take a look at their top manga they are all pretty good choice as well. But no apparently none of that count because it's the opinion of the mass and the opinion of you and your buddy circlejerking are way more important lolol.


Aren't you trying to circlejerk with MAL as your buddy?


How does one circlejerk with a website. You make no sense.

So then why say he's circlejerking. Real hypocrite.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 14 2013 00:25 GMT
#59524
Can you guys go for one day..
Skol
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 14 2013 00:26 GMT
#59525
On July 14 2013 09:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
Can you guys go for one day..


Well, it's better for Sent to take out his steam on others than us.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 14 2013 00:26 GMT
#59526
On July 14 2013 09:19 maru~ wrote:
Oh boy...

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously

Then why is it implausible that they might be underrating MJP as well? I haven't seen it though.

This season looks better than the last one so far. I assume you haven't watched the prequels to the sequels of this season and dislike cute girls shows, but even then there's still good stuff. Maou-sama, Yahari and Gargantia were good, but not as great as you make them out to be. Haven't seen Valvrave, I agree that "so bad it's good" is bullshit though.


I think I enjoyed Valvrave because it was silly.
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
July 14 2013 00:28 GMT
#59527
On July 14 2013 09:19 maru~ wrote:
Oh boy...

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously

Then why is it implausible that they might be underrating MJP as well? I haven't seen it though.

This season looks better than the last one so far. I assume you haven't watched the prequels to the sequels of this season and dislike cute girls shows, but even then there's still good stuff. Maou-sama, Yahari and Gargantia were good, but not as great as you make them out to be. Haven't seen Valvrave, I agree that "so bad it's good" is bullshit though.


Maou-sama and Yahari were both consistent which is why I considered them a very good show since it seems to be hard for anime these days to not go to shit after a couple episodes. Hence why I'm calling this season disapointing aside from a few show that their second episdode improved (Free! for example). I guess we can't really make a complete judgement about this season yet but so far I am not impressed even with shows that have gotten a "good" start because that isn't hard to pull off. Hell, even Guilty Crown had a good start and it was one of the worst anime of last year.

As for MAL it usually isn't that far off from it's true rating aside from some shows like SnK and SAO which are very overrated.
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
July 14 2013 00:31 GMT
#59528
On July 14 2013 09:25 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:11 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:08 Maxie wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously but some shows up there are pretty legit. Also if you take a look at their top manga they are all pretty good choice as well. But no apparently none of that count because it's the opinion of the mass and the opinion of you and your buddy circlejerking are way more important lolol.


Aren't you trying to circlejerk with MAL as your buddy?


How does one circlejerk with a website. You make no sense.

So then why say he's circlejerking. Real hypocrite.

Because him and his buddy are both being biased because they are friends and back each other arguments with sillyness ? Why do I even have to point this out. I'm just using MAL as a source for my claims even tho it isn't the best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2013 00:31 GMT
#59529
How can you accuse shows this season for "going to shit after a couple of episodes" when everything is only 1 or 2 episodes in?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:34:14
July 14 2013 00:32 GMT
#59530
On July 14 2013 09:31 Sentenal wrote:
How can you accuse shows this season for "going to shit after a couple of episodes" when everything is only 1 or 2 episodes in?

They didn't go to shit but they didn't impresse me either. So I don't see how you could possibly say it's an improvement from last season so far.
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:34:33
July 14 2013 00:33 GMT
#59531

maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
July 14 2013 00:33 GMT
#59532
On July 14 2013 09:26 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:19 maru~ wrote:
Oh boy...

On July 14 2013 09:07 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 09:01 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are we talking about the same MJP here that's rated below 7 on MAL?

in before "learn to think for yourself and not bandwagon"

I even don't see why you would even bring up a MAL score as a point of discussion. The same MAL that has SnK as the 10th best anime of all time. And Code Geass R2 as #8. You can't be serious.


MAL isn't as bad as it used to be for rating. The top 10 consist of some really decent anime that deserve their spot. They used to have LOTGH as #1 for a while which seems about right. S;G, FMA:B are both amazing and do deserve their spot for the moment. You're just butthurt that your "AOTY" has less then 7 on MAL lol.

Butthurt, huh. Wow, what a good argument! LoGH has gone from #1 all the way down to right above Code Geass R2. Code Geass R2. The fact that you are deciding to take up the MAL argument is amazing.


MAL isn't 100% accurate obviously

Then why is it implausible that they might be underrating MJP as well? I haven't seen it though.

This season looks better than the last one so far. I assume you haven't watched the prequels to the sequels of this season and dislike cute girls shows, but even then there's still good stuff. Maou-sama, Yahari and Gargantia were good, but not as great as you make them out to be. Haven't seen Valvrave, I agree that "so bad it's good" is bullshit though.


I think I enjoyed Valvrave because it was silly.

A show being silly does not mean the show is bad. Do you consider Valvrave to be bad?
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:46:19
July 14 2013 00:37 GMT
#59533
On July 14 2013 09:17 ragz_gt wrote:
MAL gave Urusei friggin Yatsura a 7.9, it can go suck a goat.

It was that high? I'd expect lower given how MAL works. Maybe some things are getting so old that they don't even get trolled by dumbs anymore.
On July 14 2013 09:26 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
Can you guys go for one day..


Well, it's better for Sent to take out his steam on others than us.

Every time Sent does this is one time fewer I have to argue about the intelligence of the Starks!
On July 14 2013 06:51 Kaal wrote:
Good god I hope that shower scene is uncensored in the bluray, though I doubt it will be. A man can dream. A man can dream...

iirc my nise blurays didn't really get anything new so I doubt they'd need to step up any more to get sales.

At that, you people got the shower when the readers only had a two sentence long description afterwards yo, be satisfied.

That said the Gahara-san deformed faces are hilarious.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:42:47
July 14 2013 00:40 GMT
#59534
As for MAL it usually isn't that far off from it's true rating aside from some shows like SnK and SAO which are very overrated.

Who determines or what is true rating?Can it be objectively calculated?is there a formula?
WriterXiao8~~
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#59535
On July 14 2013 09:40 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
As for MAL it usually isn't that far off from it's true rating aside from some shows like SnK and SAO which are very overrated.

Who determines or what is true rating?Can it be objectively calculated?is there a formula?

The true rating is obviously determined by newguy. After all, apparently he can't see why other people might like this season, when he personally wasn't impressive by a few episode 2s, leading him to conclude that this season is already falling apart. This lack of understand stems from him being a living objectivity calculator. A season headlined by anime like Valvrave, Gargantia, and SnK (which are all perfect examples of consistent, quality anime), is clearly better and more consistent than a season that is just into its second week.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 00:50:57
July 14 2013 00:48 GMT
#59536
On July 14 2013 09:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 08:57 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:49 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:40 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:26 Sentenal wrote:
Symphogeah is really good, I'm still hyped for it. Also, Symphogeah Best Girl Tier List, from left to right:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Additionally, the size of their breasts also directly corresponds to the tier list as well.


Gatchaman Crowds really took me by surprise, I'm really looking forward to more.

MJP is still great, AOTY matreial.

Neptunia anime, in one sense is surprising since I kinda feared it would suck, but also has been pretty good at capturing the feel of the games. Will have to see if it can maintain that when stuff actually starts happening. + Show Spoiler +
Plot seems to be going in a Victoryish way, which increases Hanakana's odds for existing. Also, apparently CFW Trick might be showing up soon, and if he does, that might mean GaoGaiGar will show up!


Servant x Service has this one girl with a really cool ahoge.

Annnnd I think thats about it for what I'm watching this season, unless I missed something.


On July 14 2013 08:25 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:19 Dismay wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:10 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:15 Phemtos wrote:
This season sure is lackluster compared to the previous one. I already miss 8man, hataraku, SnK. Gargantia, valvrave. Almost everything was good last season. So far, this season only really has Monogatari to offer, Free and Watamote seems promising so we'll see.

This season is indescribably better than last season. I can't believe anyone would miss Valvrave.


I'll take Valvrave over *monogatari every season.

Valvrave was actually utter shit. But it was so bad that it was actually good if you know what I mean. Monogatari is a quality show in every sense of it but I can understand how someone would find it boring. Anyways, anyone that find this season better than the last one has no clue lol.

Valvrave was not "so bad its good". It was so bad that it was terrible and should be despised. Gargantia was painfully average, SnK was a huge letdown, MJP was really good (but is also continuing this season), and everything else was either garbage or really niche. I don't think the clueless one here is me.


I hope I'm being trolled here with the MJP being a AOTY contender. As for everything beside gargantia/SnK being garbage that just goes to show how little you watched last season. Yahari could easily be considered AOTY if it had a follow up but sadly we all know that brain base never bother with second's season. And Hataraku was easily the second most consistent show this season.

Have you even watched MJP? No, what am I asking, of course you haven't. You are some guy who liked Valvrave and thought that Gargantia was anything better than average. rofl@you talking about Yahari and Hataraku.

On July 14 2013 08:45 Maxie wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:40 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 08:26 Sentenal wrote:
Symphogeah is really good, I'm still hyped for it. Also, Symphogeah Best Girl Tier List, from left to right:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Additionally, the size of their breasts also directly corresponds to the tier list as well.


Gatchaman Crowds really took me by surprise, I'm really looking forward to more.

MJP is still great, AOTY matreial.

Neptunia anime, in one sense is surprising since I kinda feared it would suck, but also has been pretty good at capturing the feel of the games. Will have to see if it can maintain that when stuff actually starts happening. + Show Spoiler +
Plot seems to be going in a Victoryish way, which increases Hanakana's odds for existing. Also, apparently CFW Trick might be showing up soon, and if he does, that might mean GaoGaiGar will show up!


Servant x Service has this one girl with a really cool ahoge.

Annnnd I think thats about it for what I'm watching this season, unless I missed something.


On July 14 2013 08:25 Phemtos wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:19 Dismay wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:10 Sentenal wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:15 Phemtos wrote:
This season sure is lackluster compared to the previous one. I already miss 8man, hataraku, SnK. Gargantia, valvrave. Almost everything was good last season. So far, this season only really has Monogatari to offer, Free and Watamote seems promising so we'll see.

This season is indescribably better than last season. I can't believe anyone would miss Valvrave.


I'll take Valvrave over *monogatari every season.

Valvrave was actually utter shit. But it was so bad that it was actually good if you know what I mean. Monogatari is a quality show in every sense of it but I can understand how someone would find it boring. Anyways, anyone that find this season better than the last one has no clue lol.

Valvrave was not "so bad its good". It was so bad that it was terrible and should be despised. Gargantia was painfully average, SnK was a huge letdown, MJP was really good (but is also continuing this season), and everything else was either garbage or really niche. I don't think the clueless one here is me.


I hope I'm being trolled here with the MJP being a AOTY contender. As for everything beside gargantia/SnK being garbage that just goes to show how little you watched last season. Yahari could easily be considered AOTY if it had a follow up but sadly we all know that brain base never bother with second's season. And Hataraku was easily the second most consistent show this season.


Yahari/Hataraku had good starts but ended up being decent for me in the end. As for MJP, it's pretty solid mecha. I do hope it stays "serious" from now on, though (or rather, gives solid plot advancement). The fights are great, which matters quite a bit. I like how they've had such different terrain for their missions, too.

Maxie, this guy is clearly crazy, I don't think you should attempt reasoning with him. Seems like a futile effort.


I won't lie I haven't watched much of MJP but that's because it literally looks like shit and has bad review/rating. Not that this is something that usually stop me but I also never heard it being mentionned from forums I browse so I won't bother responding about it anymore. As for valvrave, I did mention that it was utter shit but that's what made it watchable but I guess for some reason you can't read. And gargantia was not amazing like the other 3 shows I mentionned but it was decent and had an interesting plot. One thing im certain though, MJP will never even be considered AOTS let alone ATOY lolol.

Also lol@circlejerking.

You said Valvrave was "so bad its good." In the English language, that means in the end, you thought it was good, and liked it. Regardless of your reasons for why you liked it, you still did. Which means that you shouldn't be taken seriously.

He probably didn't mean "so bad it's good" but rather something along the lines of enjoyable / fun to watch.
And yes, there's a bunch of stuff that's enjoyable / entertaining while being garbage, so there is a difference and they're not synonymus.

Edit: not that I have an idea about the anime in question. Haven't seen it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#59537
Lol at people here. I don't see how Mal scores are worthless. They're opinions of people here. Bakemonogatari is one my friend's favorite animes, but it's not even in the top 100. I dropped it at the first episode because I was so bored. I cannot for the life of me watch Gintama for any long period of time, but it's comfortably sitting in the top 10. Yahari is one of my favorite shows, and it's not near the top 100.
There are so many people who have completely different opinions. A show in the top 10 will have fewer outliers to achieve that score. People who don't like CG R2 are the outliers. I would definitely use Mal as a source, because it shows that with so many different tastes, some shows are at least safer to watch than others, and could just be better than their competition. Some people like Bakemonogatari, while others don't. It still sits at a pretty high score, meaning that the people who liked it either gave it a higher score than people who didn't like it (who gave it an okay score) or that the people who liked it outnumbered the people who disliked it.
As a final point, I know how much you guys like Logh... that's in the top 10. Because Mal rated it high, does that make it overrated, or complete crap?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2013 00:54 GMT
#59538
No one is saying that MAL scores are inversely proportional to how good something is. People are saying you can't take them as objective ratings of anything other than popularity.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
July 14 2013 01:52 GMT
#59539
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Valvrave was perfectly consistent with its ridiculousness and maintained the visual quality expected of a Sunrise anime.

+ Show Spoiler +
Checkmate atheists.


But really I'm not saying it was the greatest show of all time or anything (we can't all be Penguindrum). It was just a lot of fun and the show I looked forward to most. I wouldn't call it so bad it's good either.
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Last Edited: 2013-07-14 02:08:29
July 14 2013 02:07 GMT
#59540
if you guys want objectivity all you need to do is have tladt users rate anime. boom
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