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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
March 29 2013 04:47 GMT
#54941
In all seriousness...

Almost no fansubbers (there are fringe cases) bother to translate anything that is simulcast by CR or Funimation these days. Its just not worth the time or effort.

This is why there's always 5 awful groups competing over whatever harem series of the season CR isn't simulcasting.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 04:54:14
March 29 2013 04:48 GMT
#54942
On March 29 2013 13:08 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 12:35 Sentenal wrote:
On March 29 2013 12:29 Blargh wrote:
.....................................
Okay, alright, you're right. Please forgive my sins, Lord.
Meh, CrunchyRoll sucks anyway.

You have no clue what you are talking about, lol. The translations taken from official streams are both accurate (enough such that tons of "fansubbers" just rip and edit them for different levels of weeabooness), and extremely fast. There isn't really any reason to complain about CR. Actually I take that back, I guess if you want to be a stubborn hipster, there is reason to complain about CR.

I don't know why I keep doing this, but you know us stubborn hipsters, can't stop fighting man.
Okay, so, let's look at CR here. I'll just use 3 random animes from my list.
Sayonara Zetsubou - a great comedy that is full of references and need VERY good translation. But after searching our beloved CR, I could not find it! Ohno!
Tatami Galaxy - one of the only good slice-of-life romances made. I imagine translating the narration can be annoying since it's so incredibly fast, but subgroups did quite well! Unfortunately, it's nowhere to be found on CR. A shame!
Mushishi - a very interesting supernatural fantasy anime, and also one which is quite popular. It is not actually filled with that much speech either. It's too bad CR doesn't have it.

Now, CR may have Naruto or Bleech, and many other REALLY popular ones subbed, but it lacks SO many others. I do not think that any of the material CR does is bad, or anything, I just do not see why anyone would use it. I literally picked 3 random animes out of my mind and searched for them on CR. But, OMG, they weren't there. So, you know what I did? I went and torrented them. After finding out how good Sayonara and Mushishi were, I -HAD- to buy some merchandise/DVDs for them, because I loved both series quite a bit. I just recently finished Tatami Galaxy (guess it wasn't that random since it was clearly on my mind) but really liked it. I knew it'd be good since it was by the same guy as Kaiba, which was an amazing anime. I -HAD- to buy the wicked soundtrack for Kaiba, but could never find it. But, I DID come across a DVD for it! So there you go.

So, not only do subgroups have to do the subtitles themselves for animes that never got subbed, but they do a really great job for many of the currently airing ones. Maybe they copy CR or someone for the currently airing animes, but there's no way of proving that every group does it.

CR is mostly a tool to watch and support anime recently airing. Those are older more niche anime..especially mushishi lol. You arent going to buy a good legit copy of any recent anime for english speakers that soon until its licences elsewhere or you want to pay a shit load more.


Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 29 2013 04:56 GMT
#54943
You can find Mushishi (dub and sub) on Funimation's Youtube Channel. Don't think you can find the other two, but I'm assuming you'd mind watching Mushishi there as opposed to pirating it?
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 05:07:12
March 29 2013 05:04 GMT
#54944
That may very well be with currently airing anime. I have never checked to see if they are just copied from CR, and if they are edited ever-so-slightly, then I suppose we won't know for sure.

Had I known that people would take such great offense to me suggesting torrents instead of CR, I wouldn't have made the comment. Now, I do not support torrenting every single thing and never buying any of it, but I have no problem with people watching a series from a torrent and then going out and buying the Japanese boxset or something.

Of course you cannot buy any of the currently airing material, especially in English, so if you want to support the airing shows, go get CR and enjoy. I also wouldn't have gone through such effort with my posts if I had known that CR no longer subs older material (even though all the older material is far better than the modern stuff). So, I apologize for arguing over CrunchyRoll.

@above
Well if it's in 720, or even 480, then sure, youtube works just as well as any torrent. I use adblock + anyway, so they actually wouldn't get much money from me watching it, but I have a boxset and JP artbook, so I've supported the series more than most =/.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
March 29 2013 05:26 GMT
#54945
I find that CR has good translations most of the time, with some exceptions
+ Show Spoiler +

For example this season their subs for Shin Sekai Yori weren't as good as the fansubs, most people watched fansubs anyways


On an unrelated note, did anybody watch Zetsuen no Tempest this season? I'm considering picking it up.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 05:44:45
March 29 2013 05:40 GMT
#54946
I've seen all but the final episode (it's out right now though). I'd consider it above average, but it is nothing amazing. At some parts, you feel like it really has something going and it's all going to tie together really well, but when the time comes, you feel like it was just sort of half-assed. Some of the plot was barely thought out and at a few points in the anime, it doesn't really make sense.

I personally (and so far) would give it a 7/10. Your favorite character will be Aika by the way. You would probably like the show if you liked Shin Sekai, not that they have all that much in common. Tempest and Psycho Pass were the only two anime I thought were worth the watch this past season, though.

Again, I have yet to watch the final episode, but I honestly doubt they will somehow make me change my rating of it by more than 1 or 2.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 05:46:11
March 29 2013 05:42 GMT
#54947
On March 29 2013 14:26 Zhang wrote:
I find that CR has good translations most of the time, with some exceptions
+ Show Spoiler +

For example this season their subs for Shin Sekai Yori weren't as good as the fansubs, most people watched fansubs anyways


On an unrelated note, did anybody watch Zetsuen no Tempest this season? I'm considering picking it up.


It's really good- a bit frontloaded with information and worldbuilding but once you get into it I'd say it's one of, if not the best, then one of the best of that season.

+ Show Spoiler [final ep] +
Bit of a deus ex machina with the Exodus sword but I guess there wasn't really any other way for Hanemura to beat the Tree. Pretty funny shirt rip when he throws it lol. Last 5 seconds though... leaving quite a bit to the imagination Aika still confirmed for best character with that post-mortem video message haha
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 05:57:46
March 29 2013 05:50 GMT
#54948
01:48 ecael so I haven't read the tempest for over 10 years
01:48 ecael but what I remember of it
01:48 ecael has 0 resemblence
01:48 ecael to this butchery
01:48 aers lol
01:48 ecael anyone more informed to tell me that I am wrong?
01:48 ecael at that
01:48 KazeHydra is it actually
01:48 aers eca is my favorite original source elitist
01:49 KazeHydra supposed to be similar?
01:49 ecael anyone more informed to tell me that the random shakespeare quoting is supposed to be anything?
01:49 KazeHydra i thought just random quotes
01:49 KazeHydra to be DEEP
01:49 ecael according to mangaka
01:49 ecael it was supposed t o be based
01:49 ecael on the tempest
01:49 KazeHydra but
01:49 ecael and random quotes is just a part of that
01:49 KazeHydra it's not even remotely
01:49 KazeHydra close

So anyone, go for it.

edit - looks like most articles stopped at just saying the "tempest" from zetsuen no tempest is supposed to be in reference to the Shakespearean play. That said, the random quotations are still just meaningless.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
March 29 2013 06:02 GMT
#54949
On March 29 2013 11:59 Daumen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 07:20 Kaal wrote:
If you want to watch a harem anime I can think of like 12 off the top of my head that are better.


Please do ;D


Amaenaideyo
Love Hina
Futakoi Alternative
Fuushigi Yuugi
Hyakka Ryouran
Honey and Clover
Hayate no Gotoku
Kampfer
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Moyashimon
Nodame Cantabile
...School Days

There that's 12.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
March 29 2013 06:11 GMT
#54950
Well I haven't read the Tempest but from the sound of things it doesn't seem like its worth going through 24 episodes .
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 07:28:14
March 29 2013 07:27 GMT
#54951
On March 29 2013 14:50 Ecael wrote:
01:48 ecael so I haven't read the tempest for over 10 years
01:48 ecael but what I remember of it
01:48 ecael has 0 resemblence
01:48 ecael to this butchery
01:48 aers lol
01:48 ecael anyone more informed to tell me that I am wrong?
01:48 ecael at that
01:48 KazeHydra is it actually
01:48 aers eca is my favorite original source elitist
01:49 KazeHydra supposed to be similar?
01:49 ecael anyone more informed to tell me that the random shakespeare quoting is supposed to be anything?
01:49 KazeHydra i thought just random quotes
01:49 KazeHydra to be DEEP
01:49 ecael according to mangaka
01:49 ecael it was supposed t o be based
01:49 ecael on the tempest
01:49 KazeHydra but
01:49 ecael and random quotes is just a part of that
01:49 KazeHydra it's not even remotely
01:49 KazeHydra close

So anyone, go for it.

edit - looks like most articles stopped at just saying the "tempest" from zetsuen no tempest is supposed to be in reference to the Shakespearean play. That said, the random quotations are still just meaningless.


I havent read The Tempest in just about as long and I dropped Zetsuen but from what I did see, the only similarity was trapped on an island
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
March 29 2013 08:12 GMT
#54952
On March 29 2013 15:02 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 11:59 Daumen wrote:
On March 29 2013 07:20 Kaal wrote:
If you want to watch a harem anime I can think of like 12 off the top of my head that are better.


Please do ;D


Amaenaideyo
Love Hina
Futakoi Alternative
Fuushigi Yuugi
Hyakka Ryouran
Honey and Clover
Hayate no Gotoku
Kampfer
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Moyashimon
Nodame Cantabile
...School Days

There that's 12.


Oh god Hyakka Ryouran xD
I still can't believe that's getting a second season.
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 09:04:58
March 29 2013 09:04 GMT
#54953
+ Show Spoiler [boku wa tomodachi next] +
Could have had a better ending. Rika's part was nice and Yukimura is confirmed for wanting Kodaka's dick. Ending deal with Sena was a cop-out, and Yozora running away was pretty odd. Overall still enjoyed it though, and it seems like they're aiming for a third season, which is nice.
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
March 29 2013 09:12 GMT
#54954
On March 29 2013 18:04 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [boku wa tomodachi next] +
Could have had a better ending. Rika's part was nice and Yukimura is confirmed for wanting Kodaka's dick. Ending deal with Sena was a cop-out, and Yozora running away was pretty odd. Overall still enjoyed it though, and it seems like they're aiming for a third season, which is nice.

+ Show Spoiler +
I thought the ending was really good actually, probably around an 8/10. With that said I watch the show mostly for the comedy more than the harem stuff. So the whole Rika part was funny.

I think the development for Kodaka was hopefully a step towards him being less EH NANDATTE and maybe making some decisions every so often.

And they're definitely making a third season, I've heard the next light novel was only just released so we'll have to see what that contains. I hope Yozora stops being mental and Sena wins.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#54955
After checking out CR, it seems like I who live in Sweden have about the same issues as ZenithM mentioned (some swede correct me if this critique is unfounded), so I'll probably skip it. I do have a question, how much does buying merchanize (say, figurines etc) help the industry? So far the only thing I've paid for when it comes to anime, manga etc is the second vol of Zaregoto, which isn't very much... and it would be fun to have something like that.

Pandora Hearts 82:

+ Show Spoiler +
Ouch, Oscar. Sad to get killed by your own brother, but the scene with his wife was pretty good ;_;

Alice is back though, I've been waiting for that.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 11:39:00
March 29 2013 11:35 GMT
#54956
On March 29 2013 15:02 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 11:59 Daumen wrote:
On March 29 2013 07:20 Kaal wrote:
If you want to watch a harem anime I can think of like 12 off the top of my head that are better.


Please do ;D


Amaenaideyo
Love Hina
Futakoi Alternative
Fuushigi Yuugi
Hyakka Ryouran
Honey and Clover
Hayate no Gotoku
Kampfer
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Moyashimon
Nodame Cantabile
...School Days

There that's 12.

Edit: Nevermind, I just got trolled, and I'm not aware enough of the metagame on ADT to call the troll right away haha.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 14:56:00
March 29 2013 12:00 GMT
#54957
On March 29 2013 14:04 Blargh wrote:
That may very well be with currently airing anime. I have never checked to see if they are just copied from CR, and if they are edited ever-so-slightly, then I suppose we won't know for sure.

Had I known that people would take such great offense to me suggesting torrents instead of CR, I wouldn't have made the comment. Now, I do not support torrenting every single thing and never buying any of it, but I have no problem with people watching a series from a torrent and then going out and buying the Japanese boxset or something.

Of course you cannot buy any of the currently airing material, especially in English, so if you want to support the airing shows, go get CR and enjoy. I also wouldn't have gone through such effort with my posts if I had known that CR no longer subs older material (even though all the older material is far better than the modern stuff). So, I apologize for arguing over CrunchyRoll.

@above
Well if it's in 720, or even 480, then sure, youtube works just as well as any torrent. I use adblock + anyway, so they actually wouldn't get much money from me watching it, but I have a boxset and JP artbook, so I've supported the series more than most =/.

Ya anyone tho can cherry pick anime from years back and say its better than the current anime. But then your also ignoring all the garbage from those years also but noone thinks about the garbage. 90% of anime will be bad at a given time and a few gems will will come. I can say Space Brothers, Kaiji, Fate Zero and Penguin drum were way better than the older anime but that would be dumb wouldent it? I have no problem people tormenting. Its just when you spread info that is clearly wrong out to people that a problem. CR subs are solid and most popular fansubbers use it as thier base. CR is doing a admiral and progressive job in the industry and they do it pretty fucking well. If you cant admit that you are an idiot..
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 29 2013 12:08 GMT
#54958
On March 29 2013 13:56 Zergneedsfood wrote:
You can find Mushishi (dub and sub) on Funimation's Youtube Channel. Don't think you can find the other two, but I'm assuming you'd mind watching Mushishi there as opposed to pirating it?

Which chode would pirate the best animu ever made?
#freeshauni
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 29 2013 12:24 GMT
#54959
On March 29 2013 18:12 Hey Sean. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 18:04 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [boku wa tomodachi next] +
Could have had a better ending. Rika's part was nice and Yukimura is confirmed for wanting Kodaka's dick. Ending deal with Sena was a cop-out, and Yozora running away was pretty odd. Overall still enjoyed it though, and it seems like they're aiming for a third season, which is nice.

+ Show Spoiler +
I thought the ending was really good actually, probably around an 8/10. With that said I watch the show mostly for the comedy more than the harem stuff. So the whole Rika part was funny.

I think the development for Kodaka was hopefully a step towards him being less EH NANDATTE and maybe making some decisions every so often.

And they're definitely making a third season, I've heard the next light novel was only just released so we'll have to see what that contains. I hope Yozora stops being mental and Sena wins.


+ Show Spoiler +
I was really hoping for Rika and Kodaka to get together, but it looks like Rika is in the same situation as Kodaka. Also, I think we know what Yozora is doing. When she played that game Rika brought in, she got kinda sad when she only focused on one guy. I expect she'll be trying to get more friends around school now.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 13:13:06
March 29 2013 13:01 GMT
#54960
On March 29 2013 20:35 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 15:02 Kaal wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:59 Daumen wrote:
On March 29 2013 07:20 Kaal wrote:
If you want to watch a harem anime I can think of like 12 off the top of my head that are better.


Please do ;D


Amaenaideyo
Love Hina
Futakoi Alternative
Fuushigi Yuugi
Hyakka Ryouran
Honey and Clover
Hayate no Gotoku
Kampfer
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Moyashimon
Nodame Cantabile
...School Days

There that's 12.

Edit: Nevermind, I just got trolled, and I'm not aware enough of the metagame on ADT to call the troll right away haha.


Not sure if it's troll as it's a list of stuff he likes somewhat, though not all are harem lol
Futakoi Alternative only 2, need 3 minimum to qualify IMO

On March 29 2013 17:12 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 15:02 Kaal wrote:
On March 29 2013 11:59 Daumen wrote:
On March 29 2013 07:20 Kaal wrote:
If you want to watch a harem anime I can think of like 12 off the top of my head that are better.


Please do ;D


Amaenaideyo
Love Hina
Futakoi Alternative
Fuushigi Yuugi
Hyakka Ryouran
Honey and Clover
Hayate no Gotoku
Kampfer
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Moyashimon
Nodame Cantabile
...School Days

There that's 12.


Oh god Hyakka Ryouran xD
I still can't believe that's getting a second season.


It's actually quite enjoyable and better than most generic harem. I'd watch 2nd season though it's not exactly following the novel.

Now if I make a harem show list

Utawarerumono
Bakemonogatari (+ everything followed)
SHnY
Vandread
Clannad
Kanon
School Rumble
Bento
Ai Yori Aoshi
Tenchi Muyo
Hayate
Baka Test
Kore wa Zombie

(Old stuff: Urusei Yatsura)
(Reverse: Fruit Basket, Ouran Host, Hanasakeru Seishounen)
(Yuri: Marimite, Aria, Utena)

I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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