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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 17:41:38
January 07 2013 17:39 GMT
#51481
So, i have just started watching Hakuouki (Shinsengumi Kitan)..

First ep impression are not much to go off for any show, but it seems ok. One can only hope it leads into a good story.
Professional Cunt.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 18:45:33
January 07 2013 18:17 GMT
#51482
On January 08 2013 02:14 KazeHydra wrote:
Monogatari series in July huh? It might just be me but seems like the novel translators picked up the pace since the announcement in an attempt to finish before anime. After Neko Kuro, I'd much rather read before I watch especially if 6 novels in 26eps means cutting out all the good lines to fit it. Kizu by 2015?

Too lazy to write wall of text but masterpieces should be rare, very rare. 5% is pretty damn high. The thing is, after watching a ton of anime and having a large number of favorites, how do you distinguish between all your 10's? Even if we maintain pure subjectivity, then why is your favorite anime better than your 20th favorite anime which is also a 10? It's more a matter of re-scaling your ranking system so you can clearly show x anime is actually even better than some other favorites you might have. If you're going to use an academic grading scale argument, I know my professors give 1-2 A+'s to classes of 300-400 students.


Hanamonogatari was not as good. Same with Oni even though it's supposed to be more important (too much flashback AND too much new development make it disjointed). Also it would be interesting how they do Oni after skipping Kizu.

Actually I don't have 5% 10, 20 out of 900~ is 2.2% (fail at math). But to answer your point, it's not necessary to know which one of 20 favorites is the "most favorite", and there is genre difference making direct comparison impossible -- if you think the best anime EVER of any particular genre deserve a 10, then it's already more than a dozen. It's also not necessary to have favorite (dependent on personal connection) and scoring (slightly more impartial) perfectly aligned. Haibane Renmei is one of my all time fav, though I have it rated as 9 (already pushing it a bit).

(we have a name for prof who give out a handful of A in big classes - asshole)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 18:34:32
January 07 2013 18:31 GMT
#51483
On January 08 2013 02:14 KazeHydra wrote:
Monogatari series in July huh? It might just be me but seems like the novel translators picked up the pace since the announcement in an attempt to finish before anime. After Neko Kuro, I'd much rather read before I watch especially if 6 novels in 26eps means cutting out all the good lines to fit it. Kizu by 2015?

Too lazy to write wall of text but masterpieces should be rare, very rare. 5% is pretty damn high. The thing is, after watching a ton of anime and having a large number of favorites, how do you distinguish between all your 10's? Even if we maintain pure subjectivity, then why is your favorite anime better than your 20th favorite anime which is also a 10? It's more a matter of re-scaling your ranking system so you can clearly show x anime is actually even better than some other favorites you might have. If you're going to use an academic grading scale argument, I know my professors give 1-2 A+'s to classes of 300-400 students.


Thats where the subjectivity thing comes in doesnt it. Its not academic at all and it shouldnt be, its entertainment.


And to your point about distinguishing it from everything else. I dont think anyone really has a 20th favourite anime, unless they were forced to pick one

. But you can have a few favourites. I dont think people have very many 10s if they actually think about the stuff they are watching. Most of them hold off at 8 or 9. But the ones that do get 10s may often have very very insignifcant even laughable (to others) criterias for the little bump. Could be whatever people throw out here feeling, nostalgia, preferance. Ultimately the kicker is subjective. I dont really look at the 10 rating as a masterpiece. Thats just a MAL label isnt it ?

Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 07 2013 18:41 GMT
#51484
On January 08 2013 03:31 Rebs wrote:

And to your point about distinguishing it from everything else. I dont think anyone really has a 20th favourite anime, unless they were forced to pick one
School Rumble


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Yes, I'm being a dick.
#freeshauni
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
January 07 2013 19:05 GMT
#51485
On January 07 2013 17:31 Elem wrote:
This wierd discussion aside, I started watching Tasogare Otome x Amnesia. The anime itself is so far kinda interesting after 4 eps, but holy shit that OP. That god damn OP. I take back what I said from the 2012 review, this is easily best OP 2012 imo.


I thought the show itself sort of flopped, but agreed about the OP. Straight onto my iphone it went.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 07 2013 19:13 GMT
#51486
The ED on TOxA was really good, too. I kinda stopped watching at episode 5, don't really know why.
+ Show Spoiler +
I still don't know. You expected me to magically know the answer as soon as I started writing a spoiler?
I think the show was too girl-driven and while I really liked the girl, the relationship with the MC that she had was too perfect and something was bound to ruin it, or the show wouldn't make sense at all, as pretty much nothing else was happening. It's weird and I really don't know how to put it in words properly, but what remains is that I really didn't feel like continuing on with the show, despite the fact that I liked it.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 19:23:37
January 07 2013 19:21 GMT
#51487
TOxA + Show Spoiler +
the story is actually fairly dark later on, might want read manga. Anime did not do a good job with it though.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
January 07 2013 19:29 GMT
#51488
I thought the ending of TOXA was pretty touching. Well,

+ Show Spoiler +
it would have been better and more sad if the girl didn't return and disappeared forever. But I guess everyone wants happy endings so there's that
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 07 2013 19:30 GMT
#51489
On January 08 2013 04:29 generalyao wrote:
I thought the ending of TOXA was pretty touching. Well,

+ Show Spoiler +
it would have been better and more sad if the girl didn't return and disappeared forever. But I guess everyone wants happy endings so there's that

Your spoiler talks about the ending, not the ED, correct?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
January 07 2013 20:07 GMT
#51490
As long standing Gundam fans, what are your thoughts about Gundam AGE? Worth the watch or better left alone
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 20:12:35
January 07 2013 20:09 GMT
#51491
Not really a long standing gundam fan but

its worth a watch, the whole transition between characters is somewhat interesting, I didn't like it that much, the mechas did get better as the series progressed though.

Its not Gundam Seed Destiny so its worth a watch.

If I had to arbitrary rank it, it gets a 6/10.

And yeah as Nagi said, last arc was meh, middle arc was the best.
WriterXiao8~~
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 07 2013 20:11 GMT
#51492
On January 08 2013 05:07 Ushio wrote:
As long standing Gundam fans, what are your thoughts about Gundam AGE? Worth the watch or better left alone

If you're a long standing Gundam fan, I guess you might as well watch it. I found it pretty below average to average. Mech designs were nothing special, middle arc was best out of the three. Last arc was pretty terrible.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
January 07 2013 20:38 GMT
#51493
On January 08 2013 04:30 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 04:29 generalyao wrote:
I thought the ending of TOXA was pretty touching. Well,

+ Show Spoiler +
it would have been better and more sad if the girl didn't return and disappeared forever. But I guess everyone wants happy endings so there's that

Your spoiler talks about the ending, not the ED, correct?


yeah, I think it's worth watching through
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 07 2013 20:53 GMT
#51494
On January 08 2013 05:07 Ushio wrote:
As long standing Gundam fans, what are your thoughts about Gundam AGE? Worth the watch or better left alone

This was my thoughts on the series when I finished it:
On September 24 2012 10:37 Sentenal wrote:
At long last, Gundam AGE is over. My TL;DR thoughts on it is that it isn't nearly as bad as it seemed like it was going to be when it was first announced, but its also not nearly as good as it could have been. I'll try to keep spoilers to a minimum here, and put big spoilers in tags.

The thing that makes Gundam AGE what it is, is its Generational mechanic. The show starts off with Flit Asuno, and takes about the start of a war with a mysterious enemy. Then like 20 episodes later, there is a time skip, and Flit's son, Asemu takes over as the MC. And then after that, Asemu's son Kio finishes off the series. I can't really think of any anime in existence that does this. This style has both its good and bad parts. The good part is that its really interesting to see Flit go from an idealistic kid, to a + Show Spoiler +
cold-hearted
old man by the end. Seeing Asemu go through this, to a lesser extent, was good as well. The bad part is that this means that these 3 different stories all have to be fitted into 50~ episodes with each other, so each individually are shorter than what a normal-length Gundam story would be. But overall, I think the Generational part of AGE was a plus.

Now lets talk a bit about the anime in more detail. Lets start with Generation 1, where Flit was the main character. It starts off rather generic, but it isn't really bad. There is one really boring/bad part of Generation 1, but the conclusion of it was good enough. Additionally, Generation 1 designs seems like they were intentionally made bland, in terms of mecha. Only the AGE-1 Titus I really liked. Generation 1 was also fairly annoying in that the Federation of the time were extremely weak, and lacked the means to fight the new mysterious enemy, other than the Gundam. But at the end, they are finally able to counter attack, and its revealed who the enemy actually is.

Generation 2 is widely considered the best part of AGE. This part had some of the best fights, and the best plot to go along with it. Generation 2 really concentrated on Asemu, and his inferiority complex towards his father, Flit. Unlike the majority of other Gundam protagonists, Asemu wasn't an equivalent to a "Newtype" (or X-Rounder in Age). He was an "Oldtype", meaning totally normal, no special abilities. So much of Generation 2 is Asemu trying to overcome this, to try and live up to his father's expectation. There are alot of cool fights in this part, AGE really loved beam sabers during this. Mecha wise, designs had taken a step up from Generation 1, but nothing really great. AGE-2 was pretty good though.

Finally, we get to Generation 3. In my personal opinion, it went off on a good start, but then about halfway through, just started piling on stupid stuff. This arc is about Kio, Asemu's son. Asemu has disappeared, so he is raised by his grandfather, Flit. Eventually, the war comes to earth, and Kio is gets in the AGE-3 to fight them off. Mecha wise, there are lots of designs I liked. Fight wise, there are some pretty cool fights. But plot wise... Well, I'll spoiler tag all this stuff, since I'll essentially be spoilering the end of the show. If you don't want to read it, the unspoiler version is just that after a certain point in Generation 3, things start getting stupid. + Show Spoiler +
The beginning of the end is when Kio goes to Second Moon, the Vagan's home colony. Here, we learn that Ezelcant is fucking retarded, and instigated the entire war in order to try and pull off some survival-of-the-fittest plan, to create a new, superior mankind. Kio eventually goes into hardcore "understanding" mode. This is really common in anime and stuff, so I'm pretty immune to really caring about this. However, if you were annoyed by Kira's refusal to kill enemy pilots in SEED towards the end, Kio does that too, except magnified to the extreme. A little bit later, Zeheart, the "Char" of the series, has his character say "fuck all the character development I've had", and becomes Ezelcant's successor for his insane plan. Then, in the final battle, Zeheart orders his best pilot and waifu to lure the 3 Gundams and the Diva into firing range of their big ass colony-laser thing. Zeheart has the colony laser fire, kills a sizable portion of his own fleet, kills 2 of his best pilots/his waifu, and the 3 Gundams escape, and the Diva had already abandoned ship and other Federation ships got out of the firing line. Zeheart gets pissed, flies out, and immediately gets killed by Asemu. This is all in one episode, and he personally destroyed his own fleet, waifu, comrades, and himself, all for destroying an empty ship. Then in the final episode, the random main badguy comes out, and then this AI thing called SID comes and takes him over, and all of this was completely unnecessary and stupid.


AGE had its ups and downs. The combination of which makes me give the show 6/10. If things had gone different towards the end, this score could have been very different, but oh well.

"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 07 2013 21:08 GMT
#51495
I'm looking for the name of a film about the emancipation of androids in Japan, it's about androids and humans meeting in a certain pub, where they don't need to worry about their master/slave relationship. I tried to google it, but I ran into so much sex doll websites, and other related scifi/anime things, I couldn't find it again. Please help yo
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 07 2013 21:08 GMT
#51496
Eve no Jikan (someone asked this exact question a couple weeks before)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 23:07:55
January 07 2013 23:07 GMT
#51497
So Medaka Box season 2 did shift genres like I feared it would after watching the season 1 ending. It shifted from a school comedy with a superhuman into a battle anime vs superhumans with lives on the line. The ending of season 2 and from what I've skimmed of wiki makes it seem like season 3 will be even more serious... I'll probably still watch it, but it's depressing. Did the manga have a ratings failure and have to switch into a battle manga or something? Comedies in Shounen Jump fail so they must become battle mangas?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 23:14:52
January 07 2013 23:12 GMT
#51498
On January 08 2013 08:07 BlackMagister wrote:
So Medaka Box season 2 did shift genres like I feared it would after watching the season 1 ending. It shifted from a school comedy with a superhuman into a battle anime vs superhumans with lives on the line. The ending of season 2 and from what I've skimmed of wiki makes it seem like season 3 will be even more serious... I'll probably still watch it, but it's depressing. Did the manga have a ratings failure and have to switch into a battle manga or something? Comedies in Shounen Jump fail so they must become battle mangas?


It's Nishio Ishin. Everyone knew what would happen in first chapter.

+ Show Spoiler +
The only surprise is that he didn't kill off half the character by now. + Show Spoiler +
He only killed off best character so far.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 07 2013 23:36 GMT
#51499
And that doesn't mean anything to someone unfamiliar with his work although I got the implication when it was said to me the first time. Just reading random comments but it seems people suggest SKET Dance for those who like Medaka Box before the genre shift. Thoughts?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 23:43:20
January 07 2013 23:40 GMT
#51500
That... makes no sense... though the show is OK

I rec you check out:

Ouran Koukou Host Club
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
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