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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 18:53:15
February 03 2012 18:47 GMT
#36501
Do the Novels and VN's have the same story ? Afaik its the light Novels that are getting animated right..
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 18:59:10
February 03 2012 18:49 GMT
#36502
Hey Sent
Hey Sent

http://schwarzesmarken.jp/

You excited jelly?

Edit:
VN is different from LN.

LN takes place roughly 20 years looks like it was 10 months! whoops! prior to the VN, in a weapons testing facility in Alaska. A lot of national pride is more rampant there because it's an attempt to gather some of the world's best pilots and R&D departments to try to formulate a method for survival, but obviously "20 years prior" whoops 10 months to the VN there're a lot more fresh wounds in terms of annihilated countries.

Alternate Chronicles take place around the same time as the original MLA, but focus on the doomed European Front, I believe is what Eca said? Dun remember, but #3 is coming out and it's funny waving that in front of Sent.

But hark, even better!

Now the continuation for Total Eclipse (Schwarzesmarken) is coming out!
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 18:53:28
February 03 2012 18:51 GMT
#36503
There are mangas that cover the same story and, LNs are all different stories iirc. Total Eclipse was from the Alaskan base, schwarzesmarken was like decades ago, etc. Total Eclipse is the one getting an anime though I think there were something else slated for anime adaptation as well. Forgot.

13:49 ecael I was tempted to buy the lns
13:49 ecael just to take pic
13:49 ecael and go
13:49 ecael hey sent
13:50 Seki loooooool
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 18:56:07
February 03 2012 18:54 GMT
#36504
lol, Schwarzesmarken takes place in the late 1970s.

[image loading]

These are literally your grandpa's mecha!
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 03 2012 18:57 GMT
#36505
On February 04 2012 03:36 Southlight wrote:
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Nozomu pair makes an return.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 19:37:50
February 03 2012 19:37 GMT
#36506
On February 03 2012 20:32 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 18:22 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Guilty Crown 15] +
Had there actually been some meaning behind Hare's death it would of been better. Seriously why the fuck didn't she just heal herself, then him.

I was really hoping Shu would try and attack the wall in his rage mode. Odd how Inori was trying to resist him when he wanted her void, since she's usually all "use me use me!". Especially at a time where everyone is getting their asses handed to them and are about to die. Man she's inconsistent as hell. Stupid doll.

And why did Hare get covered in the virus? I was under the impression that only happened if you were subjected to it, which if that was the case Shu should have gotten it too.

I wanted to see all the voids ranked, yet they delayed it until next episode, again.



Oh boy

Guilty crown 15
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok. Hare did not deserve that end. She's not my favorite character but dying like that should be reserved for Daryl.

Your criticisms don't make sense to me.

But heal herself before Shu? She thinks Shu is more important than herself. To her, Shu is her king. She sees Shu in a half dead condition. You have to remember her void heals things, it doesn't resurrect them. She had no idea how close Shu was to dying (He was probably pretty damn close). Obviously her priority is to save the king.

I don't get it. How was Inori inconsistent? Something was clearly wrong with Shu's composure. She likes Shu a lot. And Shu is her most trusted figure. But when something like that happens that makes him seem totally different she was petrified.

Everyone is infected with the virus. Everyone within the exclusion zone is infected. That's why they have to take the vaccine. The lack of adequate vaccine is the whole premise of the episode. I guess having your void destroyed is an instant death by petrification.



+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +

He was lying on the ground unconscious, with what I think were burn marks (though it's hard to tell). It's not like he had a massive wound and was bleeding out, like Hare was. She really had no reason to believe he was that close to death or at the very least that he would die before she did.

Inori has always wanted Shu to use her. Every time he would not want to, she would sooth him and tell him it was okay to do so. I can get her being scared at the new Shu, but that's no reason to try and fight him off when he's trying to save everyone.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 03 2012 19:38 GMT
#36507
@MuvLuv talk:

At this point, not really jelly. I've come to terms with the fact that nothing outside the main trilogy, manga, and upcoming anime will be translated. If anything, more MuvLuv VNs and LNs coming out is a good thing to me, because that means more fanart, more TSFs, and a higher probability of the Trilogy getting animated.

Total Eclipse is a side story to the main trilogy, taking place in Alaska, and is essentially Top Gun meets MuvLuv. Its getting an anime later this year.


Alternative Chronicles is full of a bunch of different side stories IIRC. Most take place in Europe, and in different time periods. I heard there is talk of Euro Front getting made into an anime.


I think the most popular Alternative Chronicles story is MuvLuv Unlimited: The Day After. If you read the trilogy, you should be able to understand the distinction between Alternative and Unlimited. It takes place after Unlimited, NOT Alternative.



Alternative Chronicles 3 coming out means I get to watch more of these

Dear Kotobuyuki, IMO you should release the UN Colors Shirauni faster. I'm tempted to buy, even if I already have a Shiranui 2nd. Gotta get my Isumi's Valkyries TSF.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 03 2012 19:43 GMT
#36508
Scwarzesmarken takes place around 1978 in Germany :3
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
February 03 2012 20:30 GMT
#36509
freezing 91. why I sense it's coming to an end.
+ Show Spoiler +
Damn, Chiffon is dead. Totally expected as she was too imba to be around but still sucks to see it actually happen
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
February 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#36510
On February 04 2012 05:30 mofuli wrote:
freezing 91. why I sense it's coming to an end.
+ Show Spoiler +
Damn, Chiffon is dead. Totally expected as she was too imba to be around but still sucks to see it actually happen


Where dafuq can I find anything further than chapter 64?!
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 21:03:38
February 03 2012 21:03 GMT
#36511
On February 04 2012 06:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:30 mofuli wrote:
freezing 91. why I sense it's coming to an end.
+ Show Spoiler +
Damn, Chiffon is dead. Totally expected as she was too imba to be around but still sucks to see it actually happen


Where dafuq can I find anything further than chapter 64?!


you cant. probably only if you can read the raws or chinese publications
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 21:22:30
February 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#36512
+ Show Spoiler [Guilty Crown 15] +
I actually teared up a good amount during this ep. Finally Hare gets the attention she deserves but has to die to get it. What a fucking load of garbage, the MC pisses me off so much. But adding this kind of depth to Shu is what made this show infinitely better, now we see a new personality of Shu, a BAMF.

The part where Inori's void was taken unwillingly was crazy, Shu is really starting to become the total opposite now. He no longer bears the "guilt" of using other people's voids. Show just got so much fucking better.

But now Im 0-2 of my favorite characters being killed off... FUCK.



Edit: I dont even wanna watch Amagami anymore, I wanna see what happens in the next ep.
Skol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 21:38:55
February 03 2012 21:28 GMT
#36513
On February 04 2012 04:37 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 20:32 Necrophantasia wrote:
On February 03 2012 18:22 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Guilty Crown 15] +
Had there actually been some meaning behind Hare's death it would of been better. Seriously why the fuck didn't she just heal herself, then him.

I was really hoping Shu would try and attack the wall in his rage mode. Odd how Inori was trying to resist him when he wanted her void, since she's usually all "use me use me!". Especially at a time where everyone is getting their asses handed to them and are about to die. Man she's inconsistent as hell. Stupid doll.

And why did Hare get covered in the virus? I was under the impression that only happened if you were subjected to it, which if that was the case Shu should have gotten it too.

I wanted to see all the voids ranked, yet they delayed it until next episode, again.



Oh boy

Guilty crown 15
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok. Hare did not deserve that end. She's not my favorite character but dying like that should be reserved for Daryl.

Your criticisms don't make sense to me.

But heal herself before Shu? She thinks Shu is more important than herself. To her, Shu is her king. She sees Shu in a half dead condition. You have to remember her void heals things, it doesn't resurrect them. She had no idea how close Shu was to dying (He was probably pretty damn close). Obviously her priority is to save the king.

I don't get it. How was Inori inconsistent? Something was clearly wrong with Shu's composure. She likes Shu a lot. And Shu is her most trusted figure. But when something like that happens that makes him seem totally different she was petrified.

Everyone is infected with the virus. Everyone within the exclusion zone is infected. That's why they have to take the vaccine. The lack of adequate vaccine is the whole premise of the episode. I guess having your void destroyed is an instant death by petrification.



+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +

He was lying on the ground unconscious, with what I think were burn marks (though it's hard to tell). It's not like he had a massive wound and was bleeding out, like Hare was. She really had no reason to believe he was that close to death or at the very least that he would die before she did.

Inori has always wanted Shu to use her. Every time he would not want to, she would sooth him and tell him it was okay to do so. I can get her being scared at the new Shu, but that's no reason to try and fight him off when he's trying to save everyone.


+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +
These are not infallible logical fallacies its just behaviour. Its a decision either party made so whether it makes sense to you or not is not important, whats important is what they decided to do. Its a life and death situation and as far as the show is concerned she did whatever she felt she needed to, same for Inori nutso batty eyed Shoe comes and aggressively moves at you, even if hes pulling out your void youll be like what the fuck get off me, not matter how horny you are to get your void pulled out, pretty natural response. You cant complain as if they should know better, I certainly dont think I have enough information to say X was the right thing to do but she did Y wtf ? Dont know where you got it.

But lets just say it was stupid for them to do it. Bit late to be complaining now. Why not start earlier ?

"Shoe is such an idiot he knew it was dangerous outside so when he went to collect those F grades why didnt he just take some good strong people with him, its not like he couldnt have found them quickly if they managed to show up 2 mins later ? What an idiot right ? So stupid isnt it ? What kind of leader is so irresponsible. (and theres a flip side to this aswell)

You could probably go on and on. Its really silly when people pick and choose what they want to complain about when similar things are happening consistently. Theres no point in trying to be smarter than the show when its so generic. Unless its overwhelmingly stupid (and I didnt think it was) like trying to be too clever with writing and failing hard yea sure every right to bitch about it. Sometimes shows do go out of their way to explain certain instances but you can usually tell pretty early wether something like that is intended or not. GC never gave that vibe, ever


and yeah Freezings only translate upto 64. Maybe cuz its korean I dont know.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
February 03 2012 22:36 GMT
#36514
On February 04 2012 06:28 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 04:37 killa_robot wrote:
On February 03 2012 20:32 Necrophantasia wrote:
On February 03 2012 18:22 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Guilty Crown 15] +
Had there actually been some meaning behind Hare's death it would of been better. Seriously why the fuck didn't she just heal herself, then him.

I was really hoping Shu would try and attack the wall in his rage mode. Odd how Inori was trying to resist him when he wanted her void, since she's usually all "use me use me!". Especially at a time where everyone is getting their asses handed to them and are about to die. Man she's inconsistent as hell. Stupid doll.

And why did Hare get covered in the virus? I was under the impression that only happened if you were subjected to it, which if that was the case Shu should have gotten it too.

I wanted to see all the voids ranked, yet they delayed it until next episode, again.



Oh boy

Guilty crown 15
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok. Hare did not deserve that end. She's not my favorite character but dying like that should be reserved for Daryl.

Your criticisms don't make sense to me.

But heal herself before Shu? She thinks Shu is more important than herself. To her, Shu is her king. She sees Shu in a half dead condition. You have to remember her void heals things, it doesn't resurrect them. She had no idea how close Shu was to dying (He was probably pretty damn close). Obviously her priority is to save the king.

I don't get it. How was Inori inconsistent? Something was clearly wrong with Shu's composure. She likes Shu a lot. And Shu is her most trusted figure. But when something like that happens that makes him seem totally different she was petrified.

Everyone is infected with the virus. Everyone within the exclusion zone is infected. That's why they have to take the vaccine. The lack of adequate vaccine is the whole premise of the episode. I guess having your void destroyed is an instant death by petrification.



+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +

He was lying on the ground unconscious, with what I think were burn marks (though it's hard to tell). It's not like he had a massive wound and was bleeding out, like Hare was. She really had no reason to believe he was that close to death or at the very least that he would die before she did.

Inori has always wanted Shu to use her. Every time he would not want to, she would sooth him and tell him it was okay to do so. I can get her being scared at the new Shu, but that's no reason to try and fight him off when he's trying to save everyone.


+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +
These are not infallible logical fallacies its just behaviour. Its a decision either party made so whether it makes sense to you or not is not important, whats important is what they decided to do. Its a life and death situation and as far as the show is concerned she did whatever she felt she needed to, same for Inori nutso batty eyed Shoe comes and aggressively moves at you, even if hes pulling out your void youll be like what the fuck get off me, not matter how horny you are to get your void pulled out, pretty natural response. You cant complain as if they should know better, I certainly dont think I have enough information to say X was the right thing to do but she did Y wtf ? Dont know where you got it.

But lets just say it was stupid for them to do it. Bit late to be complaining now. Why not start earlier ?

"Shoe is such an idiot he knew it was dangerous outside so when he went to collect those F grades why didnt he just take some good strong people with him, its not like he couldnt have found them quickly if they managed to show up 2 mins later ? What an idiot right ? So stupid isnt it ? What kind of leader is so irresponsible. (and theres a flip side to this aswell)

You could probably go on and on. Its really silly when people pick and choose what they want to complain about when similar things are happening consistently. Theres no point in trying to be smarter than the show when its so generic. Unless its overwhelmingly stupid (and I didnt think it was) like trying to be too clever with writing and failing hard yea sure every right to bitch about it. Sometimes shows do go out of their way to explain certain instances but you can usually tell pretty early wether something like that is intended or not. GC never gave that vibe, ever


and yeah Freezings only translate upto 64. Maybe cuz its korean I dont know.


+ Show Spoiler [GC 15] +

But that's Shu's characters. He doesn't think things through, he just does everything he can to help people. Hare did what you'd expect her character to do, so there's nothing really wrong there, I just thought it was really stupid on her part. I was hoping she had a bit more respect for herself, and while it was obvious she liked Shu, I never thought she felt so strongly she'd die for him. Though that could just be because she got very little focus until recently.

Inori on the other hand, did something you wouldn't really expect her to do. She put herself above Shu. All this time up until now she idolized him, and now suddenly she does a 180 turn on him. I could understand her being surprised, I could even understand her being afraid. But there's a large difference between being stunned by the situation, and physically resisting someone who up until now you've trusted. It's too big of a jump to be believable to me.

Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#36515
On February 04 2012 06:28 Rebs wrote:

and yeah Freezings only translate upto 64. Maybe cuz its korean I dont know.


the author is korean so that explains the big difference in chapters. But still surprises me that the translations are so far behind especially when it takes quite some time for a new chapter to get translated.
mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
February 03 2012 23:14 GMT
#36516
On February 04 2012 06:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:30 mofuli wrote:
freezing 91. why I sense it's coming to an end.
+ Show Spoiler +
Damn, Chiffon is dead. Totally expected as she was too imba to be around but still sucks to see it actually happen


Where dafuq can I find anything further than chapter 64?!


It's not so difficult to find raws, and you don't need to know a lot japanese to follow the story.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 23:22:24
February 03 2012 23:15 GMT
#36517
+ Show Spoiler [ GC 15] +
Yea because if someone's girlfriend would make them crazy eyes and letsss sayyy I dont know hug you violently or do anything out of the ordinary that makes you uncomfortable you dont push them away you instead have time to be afraid and be like yea I dont like this but you can do it anyway cuz its what you always do... NOT, anyone would be like gtfo, unless your some brainwashed slave or whatever. Conditioned response really.

Your making so many presumptions about things that just havent been concrete till they are tested. Including Inori a character that has flopped around on how she feels about him for a while. Do I love him ? Is this love ? What is this ?" The only person she's actually shown any devotion or subservience to is Gai, "I did it because Gai said so.", "Gai gave me a name" etc etc. And even that wavered, I dont think you transition from seemingly unwavering devotion to someone and then become completely subserviant to someone else like righttt after they die. At best you are confused, if your a loose Ayanami Rei clone its even worse. Atleast Rei was stubborn as fuck till the end. Yea thats some real idolizing

For me upto now she hasnt come to any concrete terms with what she and Shoe are really about, hence the getting scared and resisting. She was not simply stunned, she freaked the fuck out because of what he was doing. And honsetly if someone uses force and you resist even if you didnt mean to and then they apply even more force, you sure as hell arent going to let them do what they want. I dont care if you had their babies. It happens very quickly what 2-3 seconds ? and its perfectly plausible.

I dont remember anything aside from "Shoe I believe in you" and some erratic behaviour on her part compared to her supposed personality prior to meeting and living with Shoe to even remotely suggest otherwise.

Point being she may well have not freaked out at all and just let him pull it out, but she didnt which goes a long way to show what theyre deal really is rather than it being unreasonable because we supposedly already know what the deal is and this was the abberation. We dont, I dont. Not even with Hare, we knew she was kind and she cared for others and Shoe in particular. Now we know she valued Shoe's life more than her own, provided she knew she could save herself but still did it anyway. You cant actually test that till it actually happens and even then there is some doubt, because she may well have believed it was beyond her ability to heal herself at all so she went for Shoe, cuz well 1 dead person is better than 2.

Im not saying that what your saying couldnt have happened. Im just saying there was no reason it absolutely 100 percent had to. So it didnt. There no reason to go "OMG this is to much a of stretch why she push him away, she was his slave doll", because as far as Im concerned she isnt.

But we can agree to disagree on that part. Thats fine with me.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
February 04 2012 00:53 GMT
#36518
Shana 17
+ Show Spoiler +
The Flame Hazes now just look like a bunch of close-minded religious fanatics.

And you know what? I think Yuji might just win and screw all these Flame Hazes. There is no point to all this development otherwise.

Anyway, since the death of Sabrac, I now have only Yuji to rely on, so I hope he doesn't disappoint.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 04 2012 01:08 GMT
#36519
Man, lurking through this thread makes me feel as if I have simple tastes; I've enjoyed Guilty Crown since the beginning, even if I don't like Shu much at all. Granted I'm so out of the anime loop that I went in with practically no expectations, and I didn't know that it was done by the same people who did Code Geass. Though as I was watching it, I kept saying to myself "Man, this really reminds me of Code Geass."


On the heroine debate, I like Tsugumi best, though I like Ayase a lot too.
+ Show Spoiler +
Missile Kick is too good. + Show Spoiler +
And if anything, Tsugumi wins out over Ayase because HOP > Ask in this case. >_>
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 04 2012 02:32 GMT
#36520
On February 04 2012 10:08 So no fek wrote:
Man, lurking through this thread makes me feel as if I have simple tastes; I've enjoyed Guilty Crown since the beginning, even if I don't like Shu much at all. Granted I'm so out of the anime loop that I went in with practically no expectations, and I didn't know that it was done by the same people who did Code Geass. Though as I was watching it, I kept saying to myself "Man, this really reminds me of Code Geass."


On the heroine debate, I like Tsugumi best, though I like Ayase a lot too.
+ Show Spoiler +
Missile Kick is too good. + Show Spoiler +
And if anything, Tsugumi wins out over Ayase because HOP > Ask in this case. >_>


I mean it's fine for one to like that show. It's designed to be really entertaining. Nice looking girls, a pretty great score, and a lot of flashy animation, fights, etc. etc. There's nothing really wrong with liking it....
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