EPTOn January 28 2012 06:47 matiK23 wrote:
So where are we watching anime now that Megavideo is no more?
So where are we watching anime now that Megavideo is no more?
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Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:02 Ryndika wrote: What subgroups do you suggest? search the anime you want to watch on myanimelist.net. Scroll down a bit and you will find a list with the different groups that sub the anime you were looking for you'll have to ask again about specific groups because I am not really knowledgable when it comes to subbing so I cant really judge the different groups or give a general statement | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:02 Ryndika wrote: Hello, I was just watching last ep of Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu. There is 2 things I'd liek to ask. First of all, I had problems watching last ep because most of the streaming hosts are down. I ended up watching half of it from some random place and other half from other place, quality being shit ofc. So how do people watch anime nowadays? Torrent it? If so is there a site dedicated to this where you also can get older animes? (Like having more than 0-2 seeders). Some animes are just near impossible to watch. I watched petite cossette from megavideo, and I don't know anymore how to watch it. Other question is that, was the season 1 ending spoiler>+ Show Spoiler + that open? I'm not sure about the order I watched but in my last episode protagonist picked up a heater for clubroom. Was the real last episode that snow white thingy? Second season came 3 years later right? Isn't this a bit too open ending in either case for anime that isn't getting sequel right in next year? What subgroups do you suggest? By the time 2006 anime was released, the LNs were up to around vol 8, basically all of the first 2 season's contents and more. As for S1 ending, there is the TV airing end with Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu 6 (iirc, 6), then there is the chronological end with Some Day in the Rain. Neither of those is what you are talking about iirc. Neither ends were particularly open ended, though I guess one of them can be considered pretty slice of life. That said, the series concluded itself pretty well, hinting at the direction that Haruhi would take in the future. Using a sol ending just suggests that they continue this for the rest of their days, etc etc. With subgroups people have their own preferences, best just try a bunch and see what kind you like. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On January 28 2012 06:47 matiK23 wrote: So where are we watching anime now that Megavideo is no more? Preferably at home on Netflix or from a dvd you bought, instead of pirating, stealing money from the people that produced the content, and giving evidence that SOPA may be worthwhile. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:48 xrapture wrote: Preferably at home on Netflix or from a dvd you bought, instead of pirating, stealing money from the people that produced the content, and giving evidence that SOPA may be worthwhile. Real morals. Shrug, availability of anime by official sources in other regions tends to be poor, suffering though official subs or even worse, dubs, is pretty horrifying. If you are going to take a moral highground, at least offer more viable sources like crunchyroll. | ||
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Shauni
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On January 28 2012 07:48 xrapture wrote: Preferably at home on Netflix or from a dvd you bought, instead of pirating, stealing money from the people that produced the content, and giving evidence that SOPA may be worthwhile. what the fuck are you retarded. If you buy international anime, you contribute to horrid dubbing. If you're importing you have to be a billionare when shit like this http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BBXA-9333 costs like 840$ each box and then shipping... | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:48 xrapture wrote: Preferably at home on Netflix or from a dvd you bought, instead of pirating, stealing money from the people that produced the content, and giving evidence that SOPA may be worthwhile. Where do you buy anime? I could only find few to buy but couldn't find Elfen lied, Mind game, Bakemonogatari/Nisemonogatari, Yosuga no Sora, REC, Genshiken - just some of my favourite animes I love. There's also limit on what sites people dare to put credit card info.. (contains content related to ethics)+ Show Spoiler + I don' t think I took any money from anyones pocket, I'd sure support some ppl for doing things I love like 99% people but for reasonable amount and for reasonable method. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:48 xrapture wrote: Preferably at home on Netflix or from a dvd you bought, instead of pirating, stealing money from the people that produced the content, and giving evidence that SOPA may be worthwhile. if it only were that easy | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:53 Ecael wrote: Real morals. Shrug, availability of anime by official sources in other regions tends to be poor, suffering though official subs or even worse, dubs, is pretty horrifying. If you are going to take a moral highground, at least offer more viable sources like crunchyroll. I bought the Crunchyroll membership for my little sister so she can watch anime, thats the only way I could support official groups. Other than that, access to the anime I want is very limited unless I download it illegally. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:55 Ryndika wrote: Where do you buy anime? I could only find few to buy but couldn't find Elfen lied, Mind game, Bakemonogatari/Nisemonogatari, Yosuga no Sora, REC, Genshiken - just some of my favourite animes I love. There's also limit on what sites people dare to put credit card info.. (contains content related to ethics)+ Show Spoiler + I don' t think I took any money from anyones pocket, I'd sure support some ppl for doing things I love like 99% people but for reasonable amount and for reasonable method. There was that thread about piracy of knowledge and such in forms of self-help books or textbooks should be free, I had a good laugh at that. That said, trying to suggest that getting contents that are meant to be distributed for money at no cost is not incurring losses on the provider is silly. The losses might not be actualized, you might simply not want to bother with the product at all if it is priced, etc, the act in itself is still stealing essentially. I don't really see the point in trying to justify that just so that you can feel better. Reasonable amount and reasonable method? What is that, lol. They have an international market with different cultures and shitty logistics to overcome. The reasonable amount to them and to you is obviously going to be different. If anything, as the providers, they should have the say on what is reasonable. What you feel on the matter is frankly completely irrelevant. Bake/Nise getting official DVD would be sad, I'd hate to see English for that. Yosuga and REC both not licensed here probably. Genshiken I don't know, Elfen Lied definitely should have something in English, and nfc what mind game is supposed to be. On January 28 2012 08:00 Emnjay808 wrote: I bought the Crunchyroll membership for my little sister so she can watch anime, thats the only way I could support official groups. Other than that, access to the anime I want is very limited unless I download it illegally. Pretty much, it is basically physically impossible for most people here to afford the goods as they are priced. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
... Really? Since when is OK to steal if you can't afford something and don't like the alternatives? "I really want this Rolex watch, but I can't afford it. I don't like the cheaper watches either, I guess I'll steal the Rolex!" | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:06 xrapture wrote: I don't understand how so many of you can support theft. ... Really? Since when is OK to steal if you can't afford something and don't like the alternatives? "I really want this Rolex watch, but I can't afford it. I don't like the cheaper watches either, I guess I'll steal the Rolex!" Haa...and your point? Stealing is bad? Yeah, stealing is bad, I agree. I am not even going to try to justify it either. What I took more offense to was the fact that you suggested shitty alternatives. Why would I want a Chinese Rolex priced at what the real Rolex would be? At least suggest methods that are actually sensible if you want people to stop stealing. Before you ask, I just import my stuff as much as possible since I don't have to put up with translations, good luck to everyone else. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
I was willing to bust out at least 120bucks, but not that much... =/ | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Like Emnjay said, if he hadnt been watching the free shit he would never even dream of spending money on it. Seeing how it is they arent losing to much money as far as they are concerned. Its probably a bonus, its exposure to markets in third world countries that they have to spend nothing on. I dont really download anything anymore either I dont have the money for anymore harddrives and sadly I cant steal them. I just stream it from other people who stole it. And Ive lived for 20 years in a place that has a chinese version of everything. From toilet paper to monster trucks. Before Id moved Id never payed more than a dollar for a game in my life. Why ? Because there was no way to get the real thing and even if it did, no one could afford it based on how the exchange rates work. | ||
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Slardar
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Ryndika
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On January 28 2012 08:05 Ecael wrote: There was that thread about piracy of knowledge and such in forms of self-help books or textbooks should be free, I had a good laugh at that. That said, trying to suggest that getting contents that are meant to be distributed for money at no cost is not incurring losses on the provider is silly. The losses might not be actualized, you might simply not want to bother with the product at all if it is priced, etc, the act in itself is still stealing essentially. I don't really see the point in trying to justify that just so that you can feel better. Reasonable amount and reasonable method? What is that, lol. They have an international market with different cultures and shitty logistics to overcome. The reasonable amount to them and to you is obviously going to be different. If anything, as the providers, they should have the say on what is reasonable. What you feel on the matter is frankly completely irrelevant. Bake/Nise getting official DVD would be sad, I'd hate to see English for that. Yosuga and REC both not licensed here probably. Genshiken I don't know, Elfen Lied definitely should have something in English, and nfc what mind game is supposed to be. I spoilered it because I have no desire to start talking about moral and ethics to someone I don't know irl, is from totally different culture and in internet forum. Please respond to post itself and dont attach to other peoples morals. However leaving ethic, foaming and arrogance like that aside (like you said it's silly to think something because "?" - because copy=stealing) I don't feel a bit bad for pirating anime. But I'm not either gonna say you are wrong, I'd like to just have some objective reasoning and not subjective terms and personal morals. Actually I'm not sure if I've actually pirated any episodes yet.. Is this international market a website you can buy anime with subs or a theme/idea whatever? (Not native english speaker.) By reasonable price I meant that elfen lied shouldn't cost 140€ especially when you don't know what you will get. Reasonable method like steam/iTunes, from local Mall or from big known website. My problem and wonder how to get those animes legimately? In my original post I didn't actually imo represent myself as some kind of "FREE MOVIES FOR EVERYONE"-guy. Would love to see answer to original question. e: Mind Game is a good movie. I recommend it. e2: I ask because I'd prefer to buy than watch for free regardless of HOW (Youtube, stream, torrent, tv recordings - they are all same to me). + Show Spoiler + e3: If you'd like to discuss about ethics with me, please put them in spoiler with your other content so I can decide to skip that content if I wish. If you think it's not worth it if I might not read it, just leave me as a lost case scenario, I don't care to have negative feelings about you just because of politic/moral | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:20 Ryndika wrote: I spoilered it because I have no desire to start talking about moral and ethics to someone I don't know irl, is from totally different culture and in internet forum. Please respond to post itself and dont attach to other peoples morals. However leaving ethic, foaming and arrogance like that aside (like you said it's silly to think something because "?" - because copy=stealing) I don't feel a bit bad for pirating anime. But I'm not either gonna say you are wrong, I'd like to just have some objective reasoning and not subjective terms and personal morals. Actually I'm not sure if I've actually pirated any episodes yet.. Is this international market a website you can buy anime with subs or a theme/idea whatever? (Not native english speaker.) By reasonable price I meant that elfen lied shouldn't cost 140€ especially when you don't know what you will get. Reasonable method like steam/iTunes or from local Mall. My problem and wonder how to get those animes legimately? In my original post I didn't actually imo represent myself as some kind of "FREE MOVIES FOR EVERYONE"-guy. Would love to see answer to that. e: Mind Game is a good movie. I recommend it. My point is merely that there is nothing to justify piracy. I don't condone it, nor do I say that you shouldn't do it. It is just nonsensical to try to justify an action that's clearly harmful to the content providers, especially with your sense of "reasonable" price and method. If we are to discuss how things should get done ideally, yeah, a lot of what you consider reasonable would in fact be so. That means nothing in light of how things are actually done though. The content providers are slowly working with other methods of gaining revenue like using online distribution (more streaming than the iTunes/steam kind that you are thinking) w/ ads and such, but they have a pretty long way to go. Part of the problem is a cultural barrier, and part the fact that the international market is simply not large enough to be worth them paying attention to. The local mall idea simply doesn't work because no one in their right mind would want to stock non-mainstream anime because they too don't know who will buy them. In all, piracy simply works out to be the most reasonable way for people to watch anime if they want something current. Waiting for DVD is impractical - many series don't even get picked up. Can't get Japanese TV internationally, at least not with all the animes, because the studios don't buy timeslots in such channels, etc. The only way a lot of these shows even get any western response is because of piracy. Incidentally, why shouldn't Elfen Lied cost 140? It costs a shitton to the Japanese as well. | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:32 Ecael wrote: My point is merely that there is nothing to justify piracy. I don't condone it, nor do I say that you shouldn't do it. It is just nonsensical to try to justify an action that's clearly harmful to the content providers, especially with your sense of "reasonable" price and method. If we are to discuss how things should get done ideally, yeah, a lot of what you consider reasonable would in fact be so. That means nothing in light of how things are actually done though. The content providers are slowly working with other methods of gaining revenue like using online distribution (more streaming than the iTunes/steam kind that you are thinking) w/ ads and such, but they have a pretty long way to go. Part of the problem is a cultural barrier, and part the fact that the international market is simply not large enough to be worth them paying attention to. The local mall idea simply doesn't work because no one in their right mind would want to stock non-mainstream anime because they too don't know who will buy them. Incidentally, why shouldn't Elfen Lied cost 140? It costs a shitton to the Japanese as well. Yes obviously local mall wouldn't work. I was just wondering what is legit way to get this awesome stuff. Because none of persons that are not in fulltime job couldn't afford it. No one I know would spent 140 on something you don't know at all. If you think that anime should be hobby only of those who have fulltime job (aka non-students, youngsters, elders), and not only that, could afford really hundreds of euros on just anime, then I think your point is valid. e: There is also certain price range where you get alot customers and that way lower prices means more money. I haven't studied this in college very much and from here we would go pretty deep in economics, where I know nothing. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:37 Ryndika wrote: Yes obviously local mall wouldn't work. I was just wondering what is legit way to get this awesome stuff. Because none of persons that are not in fulltime job couldn't afford it. No one I know would spent 140 on something you don't know at all. If you think that anime should be hobby only of those who have fulltime job, and not only that, could afford really hundreds of euros on just anime, then I think your point is valid. Hardly, this is just a case of really shitty business leading to stealing as the best way things could turn out for both parties. The best legit ways are through what that guy mentioned, Netflix (and other similar stream services, like Crunchyroll) and buying DVDs. Not all that many options here unless you don't need subs or would import anime merchandise. That is not to say that DVDs should be cheaper - they are seriously expensive even in Yen. If I feel like it I can poke uta and we can probably give you a brief rundown on why shit works out that way but I am lazy. Basically, studios' cashflow is highly dependent on the DVDs, but the audience they have is a relatively small niche, but they also don't mind spending lots in general. Result? Expensive DVDs for all. e: There is also certain price range where you get alot customers and that way lower prices means more money. I haven't studied this in college very much and from here we would go pretty deep in economics, where I know nothing. Thinking in terms of market clearing price isn't exactly what you want here. Like I mentioned above, the target audience is too small for them to be able to make money at lower prices. Say they have 100 buyers when the good is priced at 100 and 200 at 1, there is no reason to drop price to 1. This business is just one of those where the people into it are generally willing to pay a ton and make up for the low sales numbers overall. | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:40 Ecael wrote: Hardly, this is just a case of really shitty business leading to stealing as the best way things could turn out for both parties. The best legit ways are through what that guy mentioned, Netflix (and other similar stream services, like Crunchyroll) and buying DVDs. Not all that many options here unless you don't need subs or would import anime merchandise. Netflix is USA only. Crunchyroll seems to have (according to google search and steam friend) alot problems with EU customers. Alot stuff seem to be missing from there too. Buyind DVD is not possible. So it's either don't watch at all or be a bad guy and watch. e: Finland doesn't have any kind of site like this. e2: I assume also we are talking about dvd-subs and not dvd-dubs. | ||
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