|
If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.ggFor currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net |
Fate/Zero
+ Show Spoiler + About the circling scene, yeah I understand the symbolism behind it but I still think that they could have done it more tastefully. I think it has something to do with my aesthetic tastes, I think the room was way too big for it and it made it look a little ridiculous. I did like when they stopped circling him and both Risei and Tokiomi were facing opposite directions and on opposite sides of Kirei.
Also UBW movie wasn't bad, it wasn't anything amazing but it wasn't bad. First part got rushed waaaaay too much just to get to the part that mattered, Should have just KnK'd it and made multiple shorter movies IN MY OPINION.
|
On October 04 2011 03:20 SkelA wrote:
Never played F/SN or any VN till now and dont plan to. Isnt VN like really time consuming and boring? I would rather play some BW games instead of reading text with picture for hours. Well I might be wrong cuz I never experienced a VN so far.
Fate/Zero looks really promising and its gonna be top contenter for the anime of the year if they manage to keep the quality like the 1st episode and the action hasnt even started !
2011 is really the best year for anime with Madoka, Steins Gate, F/Z , Kaiji 2, return of Gintama and lots of other great series.
Do you think the same thing about books and novels? Because VNs are exactly the same, except they come with music and pictures.
On October 04 2011 03:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler + About the circling scene, yeah I understand the symbolism behind it but I still think that they could have done it more tastefully. I think it has something to do with my aesthetic tastes, I think the room was way too big for it and it made it look a little ridiculous. I did like when they stopped circling him and both Risei and Tokiomi were facing opposite directions and on opposite sides of Kirei. Also UBW movie wasn't bad, it wasn't anything amazing but it wasn't bad. First part got rushed waaaaay too much just to get to the part that mattered, Should have just KnK'd it and made multiple shorter movies IN MY OPINION.
The UBW was pretty bad. All it had was really pretty fight scenes and then held down ctrl through everything else.
|
On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner).
Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that.
|
On October 04 2011 03:26 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMSv4uXZN0Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner). Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that.
FSN did the first route of the VN, the Fate arc with Saber, and threw in bits and pieces of the other two arcs into it. It covered alot more than just the basics of the war+Shirou being an idiot. Honestly, FSN the anime wasn't terrible, but it really fell short compared to the VN. And its not like I read the VN before watching the anime, either. I watched the anime long before I read the VN.
|
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime
|
On October 04 2011 03:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler + About the circling scene, yeah I understand the symbolism behind it but I still think that they could have done it more tastefully. I think it has something to do with my aesthetic tastes, I think the room was way too big for it and it made it look a little ridiculous. I did like when they stopped circling him and both Risei and Tokiomi were facing opposite directions and on opposite sides of Kirei. Also UBW movie wasn't bad, it wasn't anything amazing but it wasn't bad. First part got rushed waaaaay too much just to get to the part that mattered, Should have just KnK'd it and made multiple shorter movies IN MY OPINION.
They kinda had to mega summarized all it simply because if they didint, it would pretty much be a waste of time most of the part that got rushed was already made in fate stay night.....I wouldnt mind it if they had made the anime and then decides to make like 3 alternate episode of like 12 or where it branches off and let you choose which route you wana watch. I think that would of been a pretty nifty idea. But then again an anime is suppose to be like a series and thus if you wanted to watch it like that then you probably should just player the visual novel.
On October 04 2011 03:34 youngminii wrote:
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime
They are the same thing lol. Just that VN get bad rep because a good majority of them are eroge. Thus people called them eroge game sometime but the proper name is VN. They arent all necessarily all eroge. Such as Stein Gate (which I dont think there was any eroge...atleast from what I read on the review).
|
On October 04 2011 03:30 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:26 KazeHydra wrote:On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMSv4uXZN0Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner). Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that. FSN did the first route of the VN, the Fate arc with Saber, and threw in bits and pieces of the other two arcs into it. It covered alot more than just the basics of the war+Shirou being an idiot. Honestly, FSN the anime wasn't terrible, but it really fell short compared to the VN. And its not like I read the VN before watching the anime, either. I watched the anime long before I read the VN.
I see. Well, I have no idea what exactly the anime is missing compared to the VN, so how much would you say the anime covered, as far as actual plot is concerned? Specifically the route it covered since obviously the other routes weren't focused on.
|
On October 04 2011 03:36 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:34 youngminii wrote:
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime They are the same thing lol. Just that VN get bad rep because a good majority of them are eroge. Thus people called them eroge game sometime but the proper name is VN. They arent all necessarily all eroge. Such as Stein Gate (which I dont think there was any eroge...atleast from what I read on the review).
i see
yeah, what really disturbed me about clannad (originally a VN right?) is that it followed typical eroge format
which was really weird (i went through seasons of the sakura a looong time ago and i kept drawing parallels between the two)
i guess i'll try stein gate through VN before the anime, since that's on my to watch list
|
On October 04 2011 03:44 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:36 SheaR619 wrote:On October 04 2011 03:34 youngminii wrote:
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime They are the same thing lol. Just that VN get bad rep because a good majority of them are eroge. Thus people called them eroge game sometime but the proper name is VN. They arent all necessarily all eroge. Such as Stein Gate (which I dont think there was any eroge...atleast from what I read on the review). i see yeah, what really disturbed me about clannad (originally a VN right?) is that it followed typical eroge format which was really weird (i went through seasons of the sakura a looong time ago and i kept drawing parallels between the two) i guess i'll try stein gate through VN before the anime, since that's on my to watch list
Actually, Clannad is not eroge at all. It was really popular because it wasnt eroge (I believe). But eventually, they decided to make a spin off of the series about Tomoyo which was Eroge. But Clannad itself, was not eroge at all I think.
|
No yeah, I'm saying that even though it isn't eroge, it looked exactly like one that I played a very long time ago. And that was distracting.
|
On October 04 2011 03:38 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 03:26 KazeHydra wrote:On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMSv4uXZN0Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner). Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that. FSN did the first route of the VN, the Fate arc with Saber, and threw in bits and pieces of the other two arcs into it. It covered alot more than just the basics of the war+Shirou being an idiot. Honestly, FSN the anime wasn't terrible, but it really fell short compared to the VN. And its not like I read the VN before watching the anime, either. I watched the anime long before I read the VN. I see. Well, I have no idea what exactly the anime is missing compared to the VN, so how much would you say the anime covered, as far as actual plot is concerned? Specifically the route it covered since obviously the other routes weren't focused on.
It covered all of Fate's plot up to the True End, plus other stuff. It threw in Archer using Unlimited Blade Works while fighting Berserker. There was some part towards the end that was created pretty much just for the anime, where Caster kidnapped Sakura and tried to use her for the Grail, or some shit, I forget. Involved Saber fighting Assassin, and Shirou/Rin going to save Rin at Caster's underground lair, and the Gilgamesh shows up to obliterate Caster. That part was kinda dumb IMO, and I don't remember alot of specifics about it. After that, it pretty much follows the Fate route up to the True end, except without the porn.
|
So, I never watched Fate/Night or whatever. Do I need to watch that to watch zero? I never thought it looked like a good anime so I didn't give it a chance and really if I have to watch it to watch this one I probably won't.
|
On October 04 2011 03:26 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMSv4uXZN0Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner). Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that.
Yeah the Anime series was essentially Fate Route (Saber) combined with elements from UBW and Heaven's Feel to make sense of all of it. RANDOM QUIRK OF THE ANIME + Show Spoiler +Shirou could project Kansho/Bakuya but killed Kirei with Rin's dagger. What's up with that?
From my perspective as a person coming into the movie knowing all of the back story, I thought UBW an OK movie the same way I thought Advent Children was an OK movie because it works for the fans and that's what mattered. Objectively speaking, it was too rushed. My definition of the word bad is something unwatchable, which UBW wasn't for me.
EDIT:
On October 04 2011 04:04 tonight wrote:
So, I never watched Fate/Night or whatever. Do I need to watch that to watch zero? I never thought it looked like a good anime so I didn't give it a chance and really if I have to watch it to watch this one I probably won't.
I don't think you really need to watch Fate/Stay Night to completely understand Fate/Zero because it's a prequel so there's no build up to something. You'll just have less emotional attachment to characters people are already dying over because they appear in Fate/Stay Night. Go watch it if you have time and if you enjoy it, maybe read the Visual Novel. I think there's a way to make it all ages? I'm not sure I know Realta Nua is All Age but that's for consoles or w/e.
|
On October 04 2011 04:02 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:38 KazeHydra wrote:On October 04 2011 03:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 03:26 KazeHydra wrote:On October 04 2011 03:18 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 03:08 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:45 Latham wrote:On October 04 2011 02:37 Blasterion wrote:On October 04 2011 02:30 Sentenal wrote:On October 04 2011 02:23 MagicGunner wrote:Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +Really enjoyed the first episode, quality was good introductions were good. If the quality persists, it will have my vote for best anime this season. Sakura covered in worms made me ;_; though. Also: Best scene in the first episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMSv4uXZN0Worst scene: Tokiomi and Risei circling Kotomine Somewhat related but I think Nasu should just outsource all of his ideas to other(better) writers. + Show Spoiler +To quote Southlight, who hates using the following word in a non-trolling manner, but those 2 dudes circling Kotomine was largely symbolic, and done intentionally. Out of curiosity, how many people currently watching Fate/Zero have never read the Heaven's Feel route in FSN? Because it seems like alot lol lol Heavens Feel, i don't like sakura but it was a good route though My sentiments exactly. Although it was disturbing on more than 1 occasion :< Poll: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero?I played through all 3 routes. (12) 60% I never played the VN. (7) 35% I played through 2 routes. (1) 5% I played through only 1 route. (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Did you play through Fate/Stay Night before watching Fate/Zero? (Vote): I played through all 3 routes.
(Vote): I played through only 1 route.
(Vote): I played through 2 routes.
(Vote): I never played the VN.
Also note: watching the anime series counts as playing through 1 route. Watching the movie counts as 2 I guess :/ except both the anime and movie sucked Not saying they didn't. I personally didn't even see them. But at the very least they did tell the story of a route (albeit probably in a very piss poor manner). Well they were really bad as far as understanding the overall plot of the VN. I read somewhere that FSN tried to combine all 3 routes which resulted in only understanding the most basics of the war + Shirou being an annoying idiot. Someone confirm/correct me. UBW was almost pure action and really only explained the Archer Shirou relation; I would expect an entire route would involve a lot more plot than that. FSN did the first route of the VN, the Fate arc with Saber, and threw in bits and pieces of the other two arcs into it. It covered alot more than just the basics of the war+Shirou being an idiot. Honestly, FSN the anime wasn't terrible, but it really fell short compared to the VN. And its not like I read the VN before watching the anime, either. I watched the anime long before I read the VN. I see. Well, I have no idea what exactly the anime is missing compared to the VN, so how much would you say the anime covered, as far as actual plot is concerned? Specifically the route it covered since obviously the other routes weren't focused on. It covered all of Fate's plot up to the True End, plus other stuff. It threw in Archer using Unlimited Blade Works while fighting Berserker. There was some part towards the end that was created pretty much just for the anime, where Caster kidnapped Sakura and tried to use her for the Grail, or some shit, I forget. Involved Saber fighting Assassin, and Shirou/Rin going to save Rin at Caster's underground lair, and the Gilgamesh shows up to obliterate Caster. That part was kinda dumb IMO, and I don't remember alot of specifics about it. After that, it pretty much follows the Fate route up to the True end, except without the porn.
seeing saber and rin going at it....
|
On October 04 2011 04:04 tonight wrote:
So, I never watched Fate/Night or whatever. Do I need to watch that to watch zero? I never thought it looked like a good anime so I didn't give it a chance and really if I have to watch it to watch this one I probably won't.
Since Fate/Zero is a prequel, nothing chronologically comes before it, so you can watch it ok without having read/watched the original, but I still think that you would miss out on some stuff, since prequels assume you have seen what comes after it.
|
On October 04 2011 03:34 youngminii wrote:
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime
I doubt a lot of people play but it depends entirely on what places you visit.
Personally, I think most VN adaptations are a bit iffy. Occasional exceptions occur.
I can however imagine F/SN is one of the most played VNs outside of Japan (100% speculation)(most played would be Clannad?).
|
On October 04 2011 04:17 MichaelEU wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:34 youngminii wrote:
wait
is reading(watching?) a VN a common thing? or is it just common in this thread
because aside from this thread, i've never heard of anyone reading VNs as a replacement for anime I doubt a lot of people play but it depends entirely on what places you visit. Personally, I think most VN adaptations are a bit iffy. Occasional exceptions occur. I can however imagine F/SN is one of the most played VNs outside of Japan (100% speculation)(most played would be Clannad?).
I read VNs from time to time, whenever I do, you will know from my post counts' growth.
|
On October 04 2011 04:04 MagicGunner wrote: + Show Spoiler +Shirou could project Kansho/Bakuya but killed Kirei with Rin's dagger. What's up with that?
+ Show Spoiler +They were trying to make it ironic since Kirei gave her that dagger.
|
VNs are great in my opinion because they tell a story in a certain way that cannot be done by anime. VNs aren't as limited by time constraints as anime (season length) and can take their time, pace themselves and the reader. This can make for a stunning story telling, the way the author of the story intended it to go. Visuals and music/sound are also a huge part of the experience.
It feels like you're reading a book, but the characters each have their own voices and feel more alive.
They also have a varying amount of interaction required from the reader. F/SN has a lot of choices for the player to make, which more often than not, result in a dead end. This can be fun in and of itself, to figure out the right sequence to progress with the story further. The dead ends in F/SN aren't meaningless. You get a tiger-stamp and get to see a special scene or dialogue between characters. Collecting is fun.
Such VNs as Ef - a Fairy Tale of the Two, have very few choices, which are quite obvious, limiting the interaction to almost zero.
There are also VNs like Planetarian which require no interaction at all. You just click or press a key and the narrative of the story continues.
Granted there are times when characters fuck, but honestly I just fast forward those scenes. The descriptions become very long and though out, and are usually not worth the read unless you're into erotica novels I guess. They break the feel of the VN for me personally, unless sex is a big part of the novel and it's selling point.
I guess "A drug that makes you dream" has a rather mature plot with a lot of fucking, while a VN like "My girlfriend is the president" has a very weak plot, is a comedy, and can attribute it's popularity to the sex scenes.
Overall I enjoy VNs. They are fun to read with a walkthrough when you're not in the mood for playing your usual games and want something different.
|
On October 04 2011 05:01 Latham wrote:
VNs are great in my opinion because they tell a story in a certain way that cannot be done by anime. VNs aren't as limited by time constraints as anime (season length) and can take their time, pace themselves and the reader. This can make for a stunning story telling, the way the author of the story intended it to go. Visuals and music/sound are also a huge part of the experience.
It feels like you're reading a book, but the characters each have their own voices and feel more alive.
They also have a varying amount of interaction required from the reader. F/SN has a lot of choices for the player to make, which more often than not, result in a dead end. This can be fun in and of itself, to figure out the right sequence to progress with the story further. The dead ends in F/SN aren't meaningless. You get a tiger-stamp and get to see a special scene or dialogue between characters. Collecting is fun.
Such VNs as Ef - a Fairy Tale of the Two, have very few choices, which are quite obvious, limiting the interaction to almost zero.
There are also VNs like Planetarian which require no interaction at all. You just click or press a key and the narrative of the story continues.
Granted there are times when characters fuck, but honestly I just fast forward those scenes. The descriptions become very long and though out, and are usually not worth the read unless you're into erotica novels I guess. They break the feel of the VN for me personally, unless sex is a big part of the novel and it's selling point.
I guess "A drug that makes you dream" has a rather mature plot with a lot of fucking, while a VN like "My girlfriend is the president" has a very weak plot, is a comedy, and can attribute it's popularity to the sex scenes.
Overall I enjoy VNs. They are fun to read with a walkthrough when you're not in the mood for playing your usual games and want something different.
Everyone should go read Eustia
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
