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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
September 24 2009 23:54 GMT
#2501
Just start watching a non-loli anime one day. Not something retarded like Naruto, but maybe Bleach or something like that. Or you can watch a more sophisticated anime like Wolf's Rain. Show them the diversity of anime, then go back to your loli ways.

Or you could give up your loli ways.

... Yeah right
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
September 25 2009 00:00 GMT
#2502
On September 25 2009 08:54 Mystlord wrote:
Or you can watch a more sophisticated anime like Wolf's Rain.


What's Wolf's Rain about? :x If it's considered sophisticated, haha~

(Currently watching the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei OVAs - or rather, almost finished with them - quite good imo.)
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 25 2009 00:02 GMT
#2503
I've been trying to watch Wolf's Rain a couple of times now, haven't got past the first episode yet. Not that it's difficult or anything, I'm just hesitating because some people say it's not that good. What do you guys think?
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John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
September 25 2009 00:18 GMT
#2504
I liked Wolf's Rain up until the last couple of episodes.
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Cobalt
Profile Joined April 2008
United States441 Posts
September 25 2009 01:58 GMT
#2505
On September 25 2009 08:54 Mystlord wrote:
Just start watching a non-loli anime one day. Not something retarded like Naruto, but maybe Bleach or something like that. Or you can watch a more sophisticated anime like Wolf's Rain. Show them the diversity of anime, then go back to your loli ways.


Since I've gotten here, I've watched both TTGL and Paranoia Agent. My floormates didn't exactly respond, haha.

But honestly, it's really not that big a deal. It's not like I'm missing out on much.
LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
September 25 2009 02:13 GMT
#2506
On September 25 2009 09:18 John49ers wrote:
I liked Wolf's Rain up until the last couple of episodes.


What are u talking bout? The last couple episodes made Wolf's Rain so much more intense and epic. Awesome awesome series.
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LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 02:39:04
September 25 2009 02:34 GMT
#2507
On September 25 2009 10:58 Cobalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 08:54 Mystlord wrote:
Just start watching a non-loli anime one day. Not something retarded like Naruto, but maybe Bleach or something like that. Or you can watch a more sophisticated anime like Wolf's Rain. Show them the diversity of anime, then go back to your loli ways.


Since I've gotten here, I've watched both TTGL and Paranoia Agent. My floormates didn't exactly respond, haha.

But honestly, it's really not that big a deal. It's not like I'm missing out on much.


gogo violent anime like the new Fist of the North Star OVAs:
Shin Kyuseishu Densetsu Hokuto no Ken : Kenshiro Densetsu
Shin Kyuseishu Densetsu Hokuto no Ken Yuria Den
Shin Kyuseishu Densetsu Hokuto no Ken Raoh Gaiden : Gekito Hen

Also others like the new Hellsing Ultimate OVAs, Berserk, Grappler Baki, Hajime no Ippo, Vampire Hunter D(Who didnt like those 2 movies!?), Dead Leaves, Ninja Scroll, Afro Samurai, Ghost in the Shell Movies + Series, Highlander, Sword of the Stranger, Macross ZERO, Straight Jacket(short OVA but was pretty cool), X the movie, Blue Gender, Apple SEED

Hmm, more cool ones i liked;
Heroic Age, Furi Kuri, Tengen Toppa Gurren-lagann, Tekkon Kinkreet, Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, Mushishi (not action but a fuckin awesome anime regardless), Perfect Blue, Paprika, Gungrave, KARAS, Akagi(Tohai Densetu Akagi ~ Yamini Maiorita Tensai shown on animenfo.com), Elfen Lied, Black Lagoon..

i could go on but that would require too much effort.
You cant be a god if noone worships you
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
September 25 2009 02:51 GMT
#2508
Wolf's Rain was an amazing series. Very well done. The end is sad. Not Clannad sad, but a much, much deeper sad. Melancholic would be a good word.

@Cobalt: Then watch Elfen Lied and see if they still don't respond. Or you could keep the first 7 minutes of the first episode on a permanent loop.
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LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
September 25 2009 04:04 GMT
#2509
On September 25 2009 11:51 Mystlord wrote:
Wolf's Rain was an amazing series. Very well done. The end is sad. Not Clannad sad, but a much, much deeper sad. Melancholic would be a good word.

@Cobalt: Then watch Elfen Lied and see if they still don't respond. Or you could keep the first 7 minutes of the first episode on a permanent loop.


LOL indeed, i think i rewinded it about 3-4 times when i first started watching Elfen Lied.
You cant be a god if noone worships you
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3579 Posts
September 25 2009 04:35 GMT
#2510
Just finished clannad first series

BAAWWWWWWW

Now to start tear jerking at the next one right
Successful
Profile Joined September 2009
25 Posts
September 25 2009 04:59 GMT
#2511
I stopped watching Detective Conan or w/e a while ago ( first 4 episodes ) + Show Spoiler +
can anyone tell me if he actually gets back to normal size?
I really want to know.

I don't want to watch the show, I just want to know because I either have no time/ have something better to do.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 05:33:12
September 25 2009 05:17 GMT
#2512
As a longtime fan of .hack//SIGN, I've heard a lot of diverging opinions on the other .hack shows, and I'm hesitant to watch a bad one and have it dirty my image of the .hack universe. Which are worth watching (if any)? What are your overall thoughts on the franchise?

EDIT: To clarify,

Some of my major concerns are that at some point, the concept has been absolutely beaten to death. I'd like to know where that line is, so that I don't cross it. Do any of the series or mangas provide enough original content to justify my time? I'm reading .hack//XXXX purely out of frustration with the games, and as far as I understand, that story concept is simply rehashed with //G.U., //Roots, and however many other items they've released. Is that correct? Is any of it good, or is it all stretched too thin?
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 06:03:42
September 25 2009 05:59 GMT
#2513
On September 25 2009 14:17 Nylan wrote:
As a longtime fan of .hack//SIGN, I've heard a lot of diverging opinions on the other .hack shows, and I'm hesitant to watch a bad one and have it dirty my image of the .hack universe. Which are worth watching (if any)? What are your overall thoughts on the franchise?

Uhh... The .hack series is generally bashed by people who either a) haven't played the games, or b) have played the games and watched the animes and still doesn't get it. In any case, .hack//sign is the best that you will get from the series, games and anime, so don't expect anything magical from the others. First I'll tell you straight up that .hack//sign is one of my favorite animes. So I'm biased there.
Starting with .hack//Liminality, I will say that this 4 episode OVA is just slightly below sign in terms of overall awesomeness, only because of its shortness. I highly recommend you watch it.
.hack//Legend of Twilight was just bleh. The directors apparently did a 180 degree flip when they heard criticism that .hack//sign was too serious. The show pretty much becomes a childish adventure that frankly doesn't really match the level of production and storyline as .hack//sign. I'll also say that there's some sort of sexual tensions between the two main characters (who are brother and sister), so I've heard this one variously referred to as .hack//Incest. Don't watch it.

Ok so onto the .hack conglomerate series (basically .hack franchise round 2).
.hack//Roots returns to the feel of sign, so you'll probably want to check this one out. It's definitely a lot more stand alone than sign, so if you haven't played the games, you won't really miss out on a lot. It's definitely worthy as a sequel to sign, though it has a longer start up period than sign (as in the story doesn't really start until like the 10th episode), but the beginner episodes are essential for understanding the backdrop, which is the whole point of watching the series. On par with sign IMO.

Final one is the .hack//G.U Trilogy. It's a movie, and the "Trilogy" part comes from the fact that it's based off of the games. This one can be a watch or an avoid, depending on your tastes. They basically put everything action and romance and whatever that could have been in Roots - basically anything that a mainstream anime series would have - into a 90 minute movie. I don't think it was very effective, especially because you NEED to have played the G.U. games and watched Roots to truly understand whats going on. Too much stuff going on in too little time. Oh, and the music and voice acting are sub par compared to the anime.

If you want a condensed version: Watch Liminality and Roots. Ignore Twilight. Watch G.U. if you want eye candy. Your ears won't get the same treatment.

Edit: As a franchise, it's very inconsistent. The games themselves are okay, and sign and roots and Liminality are good while Twilight sucks major ass. There's not much in terms of manga for the series, as most of the storyline is conveyed through the games, the anime, and the novels. If you can get your hands on some of the novels, I suggest you read them. They're fairly good. All of them.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 25 2009 07:42 GMT
#2514
Anyone here read Bloody Monday? Pretty good as far as shounen manga go. =X
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 25 2009 08:14 GMT
#2515
On September 25 2009 16:42 Thesecretaznman wrote:
Anyone here read Bloody Monday? Pretty good as far as shounen manga go. =X


season 1 of it was absolutely amazing
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 08:21:12
September 25 2009 08:20 GMT
#2516
wolf's rain made me want to hammer rusty nails into my eye sockets. starts interesting but rapidly falls into a downward spiral into idiocy. i made the mistake of giving it a chance and continuing to watch it as it got worse and worse
better than serial experiments lain though, but thats not saying much

(i realize i probably offended everyone in this thread, but SE lain and wolf's rain are the two most unspeakably awful series that everyone loves and i can't understand why)
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 10:41:39
September 25 2009 10:40 GMT
#2517
On September 25 2009 17:20 SoMuchBetter wrote:
wolf's rain made me want to hammer rusty nails into my eye sockets. starts interesting but rapidly falls into a downward spiral into idiocy. i made the mistake of giving it a chance and continuing to watch it as it got worse and worse
better than serial experiments lain though, but thats not saying much

(i realize i probably offended everyone in this thread, but SE lain and wolf's rain are the two most unspeakably awful series that everyone loves and i can't understand why)


Ohohoho stop trolling you Australian. Lain is one of the very few masterpieces regarding anime.

But does this mean if I like Lain I'll also enjoy Wolf's Rain? I'll give it a chance then.

Oh and thanks Mystlord for the explanation about the .hack series, I've always been confused whether or not I should watch the rest of them (except SIGN of course which I loved instantly). I've also seen Liminality and while I agree that it's worth watching, it felt silly at times. The music weighed up a lot there.

So yeah, I'll give Roots a try.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 13:39:50
September 25 2009 13:25 GMT
#2518
On September 25 2009 14:59 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 14:17 Nylan wrote:
As a longtime fan of .hack//SIGN, I've heard a lot of diverging opinions on the other .hack shows, and I'm hesitant to watch a bad one and have it dirty my image of the .hack universe. Which are worth watching (if any)? What are your overall thoughts on the franchise?

Uhh... The .hack series is generally bashed by people who either a) haven't played the games, or b) have played the games and watched the animes and still doesn't get it. In any case, .hack//sign is the best that you will get from the series, games and anime, so don't expect anything magical from the others. First I'll tell you straight up that .hack//sign is one of my favorite animes. So I'm biased there.


Well then, we're probably going to have similar opinions on the franchise I have the collector's edition.

Starting with .hack//Liminality, I will say that this 4 episode OVA is just slightly below sign in terms of overall awesomeness, only because of its shortness. I highly recommend you watch it.


Part way through it now. I'm refreshing myself on the game storyline in order to better see the parallels, but it doesn't seem like it's all that necessary. I just wish the dungeon crawling wasn't so frustrating, because otherwise the games would be great.

.hack//Legend of Twilight was just bleh. The directors apparently did a 180 degree flip when they heard criticism that .hack//sign was too serious. The show pretty much becomes a childish adventure that frankly doesn't really match the level of production and storyline as .hack//sign.


This is what I had heard and feared. Chibi characters and mostly humor/action? That's not really in sync with the ideas behind the franchise.

I'll also say that there's some sort of sexual tensions between the two main characters (who are brother and sister), so I've heard this one variously referred to as .hack//Incest. Don't watch it.

Ok so onto the .hack conglomerate series (basically .hack franchise round 2).
.hack//Roots returns to the feel of sign, so you'll probably want to check this one out. It's definitely a lot more stand alone than sign, so if you haven't played the games, you won't really miss out on a lot. It's definitely worthy as a sequel to sign, though it has a longer start up period than sign (as in the story doesn't really start until like the 10th episode), but the beginner episodes are essential for understanding the backdrop, which is the whole point of watching the series. On par with sign IMO.

Final one is the .hack//G.U Trilogy. It's a movie, and the "Trilogy" part comes from the fact that it's based off of the games. This one can be a watch or an avoid, depending on your tastes. They basically put everything action and romance and whatever that could have been in Roots - basically anything that a mainstream anime series would have - into a 90 minute movie. I don't think it was very effective, especially because you NEED to have played the G.U. games and watched Roots to truly understand whats going on. Too much stuff going on in too little time. Oh, and the music and voice acting are sub par compared to the anime.

If you want a condensed version: Watch Liminality and Roots. Ignore Twilight. Watch G.U. if you want eye candy. Your ears won't get the same treatment.

Edit: As a franchise, it's very inconsistent. The games themselves are okay, and sign and roots and Liminality are good while Twilight sucks major ass. There's not much in terms of manga for the series, as most of the storyline is conveyed through the games, the anime, and the novels. If you can get your hands on some of the novels, I suggest you read them. They're fairly good. All of them.


Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for. I'll have to see if I can find the novels somewhere.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 25 2009 15:18 GMT
#2519
I'd say that I wouldn't count on it, except a lot of random novels see translation, so yeah.

I enjoyed Sign and Luminality and only got through a bit of Roots, how much of that is because I love Kajiura Yuki's music I don't know...well, Sign and Luminality, as others have said, are quite good.

On another note, Fall season starts early with...um...Queen's Blade season 2.

Yeah, nevermind, nothing started yet ./shifty eyes
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 25 2009 16:02 GMT
#2520
On September 25 2009 17:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 16:42 Thesecretaznman wrote:
Anyone here read Bloody Monday? Pretty good as far as shounen manga go. =X


season 1 of it was absolutely amazing


I just finished it last night on onemanga.

Is there more, and is it already published? o_o
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