Anime Discussion Thread - Page 1069

On May 06 2011 23:58 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Personally, if Hidan no Aria busted out battle scenes like that every episode or so without the lame drama (what is with the trend of people just sitting there with the opponent laughing at their face, jump at them or something, I know it's been around for a while but you'd think they would change that or something), it would be a heck of a lot more watchable. I'm not saying that there should be less plot or something, but it's not a really convincing series personally (then again I guess it wasn't supposed to be right from the start).

Shakugan no Shana isn't that bad personally, I think the second season just wasn't that well-received, but the first season and the S OVA series were pretty well-done personally (S, personally, blew my expectations out of the water; the last two episodes were, personally, the essence of Shana and proves that if Shana doesn't toy around in a stupid manner, the series can tell one heck of a story, but maybe that's just me >.<).

On May 06 2011 23:58 Ferrose wrote:
Seriously can't tell whether or not Southlight is trolling me.

Maybe I will watch it though, because I don't know anything about it, and reading this thread makes me think that it's one of the most hated series in anime. : /

On May 07 2011 00:01 Southlight wrote:


I think it's typical of the moeblob garbage LNs based on a useless male protag being lugged around by a tsundere faux femme fatale with the girl-on-the-cover syndrome. IIRC it was the first major one to be animated (or at least first to make it really big).

On May 07 2011 00:00 Katsuge wrote:
anyone here watches gintama?

best anime imo

On May 07 2011 00:01 Southlight wrote:

I think it's typical of the moeblob garbage LNs based on a useless male protag being lugged around by a tsundere faux femme fatale with the girl-on-the-cover syndrome. IIRC it was the first major one to be animated (or at least first to make it really big).

On May 07 2011 00:01 Southlight wrote:


I think it's typical of the moeblob garbage LNs based on a useless male protag being lugged around by a tsundere faux femme fatale with the girl-on-the-cover syndrome. IIRC it was the first major one to be animated (or at least first to make it really big).

Edit:
Ecael 10:53 am
shana hating fotm

Ecael 10:59 am
trolling ferrose is a pretty good sport too

On May 07 2011 00:04 Sentenal wrote:
Ecael and Southlight both are very harsh critics, but Shana wasn't that bad IMO. Its average at best, and around Index's level of quality. However, the 2nd season was horrible, save for a few fights at the end. Things I've heard about what a potential 3rd season will cover are pretty lulzy, and I'm looking forward to it haha.

On May 07 2011 00:05 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I don't get why they have to make the male lead so useless if the female lead is so imba. It's pretty unnecessary personally, even stupid.=/

On May 07 2011 00:06 Blasterion wrote:

MuvLuv
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 07 2011 00:08 Southlight wrote:


Generally it's because of bishoujo-game-itis, in that the audience is more likely to sympathize with and "get immersed into" the story if the protag is just as worthless as them. It may sound harsh, but when you look at all the "she is my waifu" stuff it just is the audience they're targeting, and it works. It's also not really good having a strong "protagonist" to dim the spotlight of the character that's selling the work and the merchandise. Simple marketing

Edit:
Ecael 11:07 am
I find it funny that I should be listed with you about being 'harsh'
when I am infinitely more tolerant

</3 I has been forsaken.

Edit2:
A good example of what happens when two+ strong characters exist is Dies Irae... the main character AND his buddy are strong, and it really tugs you both ways. They're both pretty good, and even though the buddy is fantastic and bad-ass while the main char is a bit more moralfag like Emiya Shirou, it's a lot harder to go "all-in" on the buddy.

On May 07 2011 00:12 Sentenal wrote:

I'm glad I'm reading through MuvLuv. Extra was a pain to get through, but its all become/becoming worth it. Its really nice to see Takeru going from a generic indecisive harem-lead (the worst of /a/) into being a manly, strong, determined soldier (the best of /m/). And I've barely even scratched the surface of Alternative!

On May 07 2011 00:14 Ferrose wrote:
Nah, Ecael just made us all think he's a sage of anime when he really likes to read shit series like IS and Index

Also sometimes a strong male lead can work out as well. For instance, the male lead in Yumekui Merry is actually quite the baller.

On May 07 2011 00:12 Sentenal wrote:
IMO Super Robot anime don't normally have that problem, at least to me. Like take G Gundam, for example. Domon, Master Asia, Schwartz, Chibodee, Allenby, that Russian, etc are all badasses. Or with Getter Robo, where both all 3 members of the team get their own spotlight to shine, although Ryoma does have a very dominating presence.

On May 07 2011 00:08 Southlight wrote:


Generally it's because of bishoujo-game-itis, in that the audience is more likely to sympathize with and "get immersed into" the story if the protag is just as worthless as them. It may sound harsh, but when you look at all the "she is my waifu" stuff it just is the audience they're targeting, and it works. It's also not really good having a strong "protagonist" to dim the spotlight of the character that's selling the work and the merchandise. Simple marketing

On May 07 2011 00:19 Southlight wrote:


That's because Super Robot anime isn't sold based on one character ;p The double strong protag doesn't affect Dies Irae as it's not really about them per se anyways, was just pointing it out due to the effect of blunting the impact of one character Which I think you'd agree with.

On May 07 2011 00:21 Sentenal wrote:

I either agree with you, or don't understand the point you are making, or both!

On May 07 2011 00:23 Southlight wrote:


My point was that stuff like Shana is sold by ONE character, who happens to not be the "main character." Hence, such series tend to shuttle out a wimpy main character to not steal the spotlight, because multiple strong characters by default blunt the impact of each. With Super Robot anime you'll get multiple strong characters, whom can't help but steal each other's thunder, but they're not predicated on selling on the power of one character (although sometimes off one mech >_>) so it's not a big deal.