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Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
January 27 2015 07:52 GMT
#19921
I would like to note that it has now been over a year since we've seen Sanji. The chapter where Sunny is confronted by Big Mom's ship was released on December 9, 2013.
maggle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia70 Posts
January 27 2015 08:32 GMT
#19922
On January 27 2015 16:52 Elerris wrote:
I would like to note that it has now been over a year since we've seen Sanji. The chapter where Sunny is confronted by Big Mom's ship was released on December 9, 2013.

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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 27 2015 09:03 GMT
#19923
how else do you show chaos that happens i n the same time in different places that's all related to the same event? All of you guys should realize one thing from one piece thus far, every information Oda shares is significant for the progress of the plot. We can't digest all of them when the bits are coming 7 days apart, when you reread the arch after it's finish you would be able to see what he intended to show with his pacing of moments.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 10:44:25
January 27 2015 10:33 GMT
#19924
it is pretty standard for OP, like skypea arc took so long back then i had the similar feeling to some of the posts above but now i am more chilled about it.

oh jesus sanji is now officially a side character, 1year......
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 12:50:19
January 27 2015 12:43 GMT
#19925
I can agree that OP is not the fastest paced manga and not the most action packed.. but everything as meaning and will reveal itselft later. That improves the story for me but i can also accept someone can not appreciate that.

For me this arc is the best so far.. When DD falls we will have Luffy and the crew really improve and become a respected and feared force.. full of powerfull new allies and many more enemies!

I really like this because we can see that they are going forward.

About Sanji.. come on guys he is one of the strongest and i'm sure we will have time to shine, especially since he is with nami, brook and the tanuki ;D, for sure they will have a big impact later in the arc


PS: the anime was good and next episode where we will see DD beating up Luffy seems to have a very good animation and very good fight scenes
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6628 Posts
January 27 2015 14:15 GMT
#19926
lol Sanji officially demoted to side character. Can we really still call him apart of the monster trio if he isn't even important enough to show for over a whole year? RIP Sanji's credibility lol

Of course I'm only half kidding, I still think Sanji is the third strongest in the crew but it really is insane that it's been a full year since we've a good chunk of the crew. Just goes to show exactly how much is going on in this arc. It's so jam packed I think Oda used big mom as an excuse to write out Sanji, Nami, Brook and Chopper to cut down hugely on the people he has to show.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#19927
I fully expect there to be a long Sanji arc after Doflamingo is defeated.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:36:52
January 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#19928
Pretty sure the fact Sanji is out right now, is that he's gonna have a big screentime in the next arc or something.

Edit: Yeah or the thing Sentenal said.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2534 Posts
January 27 2015 19:56 GMT
#19929
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 27 2015 20:05 GMT
#19930
There isn't a single Straw Hat worth getting rid of.

Is there a source on that? Jump can go screw themselves, intervening in One Piece like that.
maru lover forever
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 27 2015 20:07 GMT
#19931
On January 28 2015 05:05 Incognoto wrote:
There isn't a single Straw Hat worth getting rid of.

Is there a source on that? Jump can go screw themselves, intervening in One Piece like that.

That's just how manga is though... series that were supposed to end get drawn out because sales are good, series that aren't immediately popular get cut before they even have the chance.
:)
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 20:16:31
January 27 2015 20:12 GMT
#19932
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.

[image loading]
sanji is still really high...

from chapter 771
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 27 2015 20:13 GMT
#19933
I'd also like the source on that before believing that. We already the "Oda admits Shanks losing his arm was a mistake" being repeated with no source. One Piece is still top dog in terms of overall popularity hard to believe Oda would need to make changes based on individual character popularity.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
January 27 2015 20:15 GMT
#19934
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.


That can't be right. That would mean Franky is actually popular. Does Japan really like robots that much?

I think the issue is more along the lines of Oda has so many main characters that they don't have much screen time, and so they get reduced to their most prominent traits. Some of the strawhats just have more interesting/easy prominent traits than others.

I mean, since the timeskip Sanji has basically just been "that nosebleed guy", without adding much else. He needs more screen time for his good traits (mainly his chivalry) to actually show. Robin meanwhile is a serious/mystery type, so she can literally stand around doing nothing and be playing her part just fine. All that's needed from her is for her to discover something every once in a while, and say something dark.

I actually don't miss the other strawhats that much right now. I like Nami more due to how she interacts with Luffy/Zoro/Robin/Ussop than for her actual personality. Same with Chopper. Brook remains the least developed character (apart from Franky), so there's not too much to miss with him, and then there's Sanji.

Maybe Oda will have the secondary group lose against Big Mom, separating them for even longer and creating a rescue arc where the new Straw hat alliance attacks Big Mom (and Kaido joins in mid-way).
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
January 27 2015 20:40 GMT
#19935
Yeah I doubt that's right, especially when you look at the popularity charts, with Sanji/Nami/Chopper being higher than Franky, Usopp or Robin.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 27 2015 20:56 GMT
#19936
I dislike ranking the different crew members, period. I like all of them almost equally. They all have their funny and good traits, I don't believe a single character is under-developed either. It's just the pace of things.
maru lover forever
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 27 2015 21:53 GMT
#19937
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.

BS unless I get a source. Oda is notorious for doing whatever he wants and not letting editors change his story.

On January 28 2015 05:15 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.


That can't be right. That would mean Franky is actually popular. Does Japan really like robots that much?

I think the issue is more along the lines of Oda has so many main characters that they don't have much screen time, and so they get reduced to their most prominent traits. Some of the strawhats just have more interesting/easy prominent traits than others.

I mean, since the timeskip Sanji has basically just been "that nosebleed guy", without adding much else. He needs more screen time for his good traits (mainly his chivalry) to actually show. Robin meanwhile is a serious/mystery type, so she can literally stand around doing nothing and be playing her part just fine. All that's needed from her is for her to discover something every once in a while, and say something dark.

I actually don't miss the other strawhats that much right now. I like Nami more due to how she interacts with Luffy/Zoro/Robin/Ussop than for her actual personality. Same with Chopper. Brook remains the least developed character (apart from Franky), so there's not too much to miss with him, and then there's Sanji.

Maybe Oda will have the secondary group lose against Big Mom, separating them for even longer and creating a rescue arc where the new Straw hat alliance attacks Big Mom (and Kaido joins in mid-way).

Robots are cool
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
January 27 2015 22:02 GMT
#19938
On January 28 2015 05:12 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.

[image loading]
sanji is still really high...

from chapter 771


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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18340 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 22:17:13
January 27 2015 22:16 GMT
#19939
On January 28 2015 04:56 Hyperbola wrote:
In a recent radio interview Oda confirmed that the reason for Sanji and co's disappearence was the declining popularity of certain straw hat characters. Jump saw a decrease in enthusiasm in their best seller and with the ending of one of their more popular series (naruto) they needed to revamp the popularity of some of their long running serials like One Piece. Basically they told Oda to add in more "fresh blood" and thus we have the introduction of so many new reoccuring characters. This arc is in some sense a trial by fire to add new real estate to the manga while scrapping some of the old temporarily.
My biggest fear is that this won't be a temporary change and that some of the least popular straw hats will stay gone or become side actual characters. And while I do think getting rid of Sanji is the right move, I dont want to lose Brooke or Nami. We'll see where this takes us but it's very possible that this temporary change might turn into something less temporary.


lol, Sanji, Chopper and Nami are definitely in the top of SH popularity. At least way higher than Robin and Franky.

Chopper has a whole line of merchandise THEMED only after him.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#19940
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that Sanji, Chopper, Nami, and Brook would be cut due to popularity. From that poll in the magazine, they ranked 3, 4, 5, and 9 of the Strawhats. Only Brook would get cut time if it was based on popularity.

Instead, I think it's just a clever way to simplify the arc slightly while keeping us interested in what happened to the other characters. It's amazing that it's been over a year since we saw Sanji and co and every chapter I'm still waiting for that one frame of Sunny sailing away from a pile of floating wood (wishful thinking). I'm sure Sanji + others will get plenty of screen-time in the upcoming arc.

Simplifying an already overcomplicated arc is a very smart thing and I wish Oda had chosen the same path with the dwarves by cutting them out of this arc and putting them into a different one. The story progression has been slow since their introduction and I feel like they were an unnecessary addition. The story could have been streamlined a little more to keep the pacing better.

Oh well, the final battles seem to be right around the corner now and the dwarves will probably be a thing of the past shortly.
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