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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 18 2014 16:45 GMT
#18901
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.
Some times ideas just pop up while you're doing stuff, it's nothing bad and doesn't diminish the story.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 16:57:33
October 18 2014 16:56 GMT
#18902
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]


Yep, definitely see that black haired girl with pigtails as being Sabo. Very likely resemblance.

Sabos black top hat / cape-jacket style is quite distinct tbh, usually its the people finding stuff like this who are clutching at straws.......
Useless wet fish.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 18 2014 17:02 GMT
#18903
On October 19 2014 01:56 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]


Yep, definitely see that black haired girl with pigtails as being Sabo. Very likely resemblance.

Sabos black top hat / cape-jacket style is quite distinct tbh, usually its the people finding stuff like this who are clutching at straws.......

His point is that sabo's style had not been decided until the point where you actually see him during the flashback. He could have styled him whatever he wanted, for example that guy on the right with the cloth on his hair. Or the guy with the white tophat. Or anyone else who is male out of that crowd.
I mean maybe he did plan it all in advance, but maybe he didn't. Both are equally likely for me.
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
October 18 2014 17:12 GMT
#18904
Or maybe he didn't plan any resemblence at all, it just so happened that after drawing what must be thousands of characters one of the "new" main characters has a look-alike amongst the many
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 18 2014 18:01 GMT
#18905
Well, only one way to decide something like that.
Sabo was with Dragon, and Dragon was in Logue town and rescued Luffy.
And in 2 shots with very many indistinct characters we have one guy standing out in a black coat and top hat.

I think this warrants looking for more depictions of Sabo/repeats of noticable random townsfolk.
To me it looks like Sabo has been planned that long. It's the correct arc for him(we know Dragon was in that town), quite distinct style of clothing(big black coat and black top hat, while the other civilians wear normal shirts and headscarfs).
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 18 2014 19:01 GMT
#18906
On October 19 2014 01:45 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.

Source?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
October 18 2014 22:17 GMT
#18907
The concept behind Luffy having a brother with qualities or similar qualities to the qualities that Sabo has might of been planned for a while. But when the character that resembles Sabo in that particular crowd would actually turn out to be the artwork for Sabo is the part that is really the part that we are not totally sure about unless there was a QA with Oda that I missed.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
October 19 2014 00:24 GMT
#18908
On October 19 2014 01:45 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.

That's why he made Law's fruit. Shanks is getting a new arm soon enough... If Blackbeard doesn't kill him first.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 19 2014 00:25 GMT
#18909
Oda just makes a lot of different designs in scenes with a lot of people in them, so that he can maybe pick one out to use for one of his main characters in the future. It's smart and saves time.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
October 19 2014 00:58 GMT
#18910
The design for sabo was finished during the flash back arc, he had the same top hat as a kid. So it was planned for only 3 years at worst? Longer than most mangas exist. It doesn't matter either way, it all comes down if you want to give oda credit or not. He's planned most everything else out and has always foreshadowed, if i had to gamble i'd say its planned.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 01:04:39
October 19 2014 01:04 GMT
#18911
On October 19 2014 09:58 Chro wrote:
The design for sabo was finished during the flash back arc, he had the same top hat as a kid. So it was planned for only 3 years at worst? Longer than most mangas exist. It doesn't matter either way, it all comes down if you want to give oda credit or not. He's planned most everything else out and has always foreshadowed, if i had to gamble i'd say its planned.


I don't think the notion that Oda possibly uses pre-drawn designs from the past is a slight to his abilities at all, in fact it shows he's got very good planning abilities. With a world as large and full of detailed characters and environments such as the OP universe, it wouldn't be surprising he does this to save himself time and stress in the long run.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
October 19 2014 01:11 GMT
#18912
I think i send this once: Early One Piece Concepts

He has incredible planning abilities.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 19 2014 01:54 GMT
#18913
On October 19 2014 04:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 01:45 Warri wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.

Source?

this exact exchange happens way often.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 19 2014 11:43 GMT
#18914
On October 19 2014 10:11 Mensol wrote:
I think i send this once: Early One Piece Concepts

He has incredible planning abilities.


Hachi used to be a girl, lol.

Glad chopper because chopper.
maru lover forever
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 15:13:17
October 19 2014 15:13 GMT
#18915
I just realized that Doffys "Heavenly Yaksha" Ephitet finally makes sense. Yaksha's in hindu myth are spirits who act as caretakers of national treasures.... Like and the National treasure of Mariejos
you no take candle
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 19 2014 19:22 GMT
#18916
On October 19 2014 10:54 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:01 Sentenal wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:45 Warri wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.

Source?

this exact exchange happens way often.

Seems to me like the whole thing of "Oda said Shanks losing his arm as a bad idea!" is a myth, since no one ever has a source.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 04:51:29
October 20 2014 04:46 GMT
#18917
On October 20 2014 04:22 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 10:54 flamewheel wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:01 Sentenal wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:45 Warri wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:16 Hyperbola wrote:
Whatever. Oda just put a bunch of characters in there so he could use them later. Any one of these could be made into a "Sabo."

[image loading]

Oda is also the same guy who after a few hundred chapters decided it was a mistake to have shanks lose an arm, so theres that.

Source?

this exact exchange happens way often.

Seems to me like the whole thing of "Oda said Shanks losing his arm as a bad idea!" is a myth, since no one ever has a source.


I can understand why he would say this IF it is confirmed that he holds these thoughts. It limits the ways Shanks can fight. Despite this, I think Shanks has become the ultimate "do more with less" character in the series. Becoming a yonkou with only 1 arm is very impressive and the main draw to his character.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 12:41:06
October 20 2014 12:39 GMT
#18918
^ Could also mean that maybe his firstmate is even stronger in combat abilities, I don't think so myself as this should still be a shounen manga but their crew is without a doubt superrrrr strong.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 20 2014 13:09 GMT
#18919
I seem to remember that Oda said something about shank's hand in some included interview behind one of the tankobons (collected volume/paperback) because alot of people asked about that (basically how can a sea king able to hurt him after Oda showed that how strong is Shank in the later story). IIRC he said something like it was a suggestion from the editor back then that they need to bring in some dramatic moment to support luffy's motivation/dream at that stage of the story to go get OP so shank's hand became the victim. Not too surprised that actually happened because OP was in a very early stage back then.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 22 2014 07:30 GMT
#18920
On October 20 2014 21:39 Sableyeah wrote:
^ Could also mean that maybe his firstmate is even stronger in combat abilities, I don't think so myself as this should still be a shounen manga but their crew is without a doubt superrrrr strong.


I think he might have more followers that would join him if he ever participates in a fate deciding battle like White beard did. Remember, at the end of the series, all the alliances Luffy has forged on his quest to become PK will most likely show up to help him. But the core of his members are definitely very very high quality.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
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