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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#5961
Oh snap, epic chapter, can't wait for the next installment. Shit's getting real again.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 06 2013 03:29 GMT
#5962
Its not surprising that Smoker would lose to Doflamingo when he hasn't even had time to recover from Vergo, but its still kinda disheartening to see him get shat on so much this arc.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 06 2013 03:33 GMT
#5963
Eh that is a pretty annoying way to post, you could have just bolded the alive part. Plus it's not like Kaido became a Yonko when Whitebeard died he was already considered very strong. You are also missing the point too that Yonkou are of similar strength simply because they are Yonkou otherwise Whitebeard would not be a Younkou he would be Pirate King when Roger died. Maybe Whitebeard was the strongest Yonkou he still Yonkou level hence the comparison to Kaido.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 06 2013 03:43 GMT
#5964
Law said that the Yonkou were able to fight whitebeard over territory so its safe to say that the other 3 yonkjou are of similar strength to whitebeard but weaker

actually since Whitebeard was practically dead due to sickness at the end Kaidou probably would have been able to beat him in a 1v1

old age is a bitch
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 07:33:29
February 06 2013 06:55 GMT
#5965
On February 06 2013 08:50 BrokenMirage wrote:
Kinemon and his son certainly know something about Kaidou. I doubt they or Wano country work with him because of how much Kinemon hate pirates, but there's certainly something up. I don't think Aokiji and Doflamingo will fight, since it isn't really important to Doflamingo to kill all the G5s. I really like how Doflamingo looks totally fine with things, despite getting pressured so hard by Law in the previous chapter.

Aye, I'm loving it.

Law is proving to be a master schemer in his own right, but Doflamingo isn't going to go down easily. Last chapter, Law was pretty much saying "checkmate" to DF. This chapter, DF flipped over the board and decided to go smack Law in the face. This isn't over by a long shot.

Only disappointment is how much DF is underestimating the Straw Hat crew. "the Straw Hats are lightweights" is pretty poor. Zoro easily smashed Monet, Franky took out two strong characters by himself, and Sanji wasn't too far below Vergo, one of DF's best men. I hope DF learns not to underestimate the Straw Hats before he actually fights them. I want to see how well the Straw Hat crew all fares against a full powered Doflamingo after the time skip.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
February 06 2013 07:36 GMT
#5966
I do have a question about what DF did with Baby 5 and her companion.

Law basically used room to separate their heads from their bodies. And he "reattached" the to the raft/boat right? otherwise they may have fallen off right?

Assuming that they weren't attached physically to the boat via "room", aren't you still unable to "reconnect" or put yourself backtogether just by reattachment or reconnecting the disconnected section? Don't you need Law to reconnect your body for you?
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1083 Posts
February 06 2013 07:38 GMT
#5967
On February 06 2013 16:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I do have a question about what DF did with Baby 5 and her companion.

Law basically used room to separate their heads from their bodies. And he "reattached" the to the raft/boat right? otherwise they may have fallen off right?

Assuming that they weren't attached physically to the boat via "room", aren't you still unable to "reconnect" or put yourself backtogether just by reattachment or reconnecting the disconnected section? Don't you need Law to reconnect your body for you?

No, think back to Kinemon and the way his face was re-arranged and the way his body was re-assembled. All you need to do is put the pieces back together properly and they seem to permanently go back to the way they were.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
February 06 2013 08:17 GMT
#5968
On February 06 2013.
6:38 RenSC2 wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 16:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I do have a question about what DF did with Baby 5 and her companion.

Law basically used room to separate their heads from their bodies. And he "reattached" the to the raft/boat right? otherwise they may have fallen off right?

Assuming that they weren't attached physically to the boat via "room", aren't you still unable to "reconnect" or put yourself backtogether just by reattachment or reconnecting the disconnected section? Don't you need Law to reconnect your body for you?

No, think back to Kinemon and the way his face was re-arranged and the way his body was re-assembled. All you need to do is put the pieces back together properly and they seem to permanently go back to the way they were.


Somehow i dislike this. As always no one seems to die.
So DF will take vergo with him. Dislike

shirtman
Profile Joined April 2010
178 Posts
February 06 2013 08:33 GMT
#5969
Was Doflamingo outstmarted?

I think he's still pulling the strings...
Winning internet arguments since it was cool.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 06 2013 08:35 GMT
#5970
On February 06 2013 17:17 Garalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013.
6:38 RenSC2 wrote:

On February 06 2013 16:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I do have a question about what DF did with Baby 5 and her companion.

Law basically used room to separate their heads from their bodies. And he "reattached" the to the raft/boat right? otherwise they may have fallen off right?

Assuming that they weren't attached physically to the boat via "room", aren't you still unable to "reconnect" or put yourself backtogether just by reattachment or reconnecting the disconnected section? Don't you need Law to reconnect your body for you?

No, think back to Kinemon and the way his face was re-arranged and the way his body was re-assembled. All you need to do is put the pieces back together properly and they seem to permanently go back to the way they were.


Somehow i dislike this. As always no one seems to die.
So DF will take vergo with him. Dislike


Well that depends.

he needs to find him first
In the woods, there lurks..
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 06 2013 09:01 GMT
#5971
Smoker losing to DF is not really surprising, Shichibukai are chosen for being exceptionally strong pirates after all. And didn't he lose his weapon when fighting against Vergo?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 09:20:55
February 06 2013 09:18 GMT
#5972
Why are people doubting Smoker? He was in Loguetown for so long at East Sea, his Logia simply make him unstoppable there. He just recently started getting stronger and moved to G5. On the other hand, DD had being a Shichibukai for 20 years. But honestly a marine development is so MUCH SLOWER than pirate. X-Drake was a rear-admiral and the instant he became a pirate his bounty started to rise. Smoker is considered extremely powerful already in term of marine development, he became a vice-admiral in 2 years from a captain as far as I remembered.
CSSolutionstv
Profile Joined November 2010
118 Posts
February 06 2013 14:27 GMT
#5973
On February 06 2013 18:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
Smoker losing to DF is not really surprising, Shichibukai are chosen for being exceptionally strong pirates after all. And didn't he lose his weapon when fighting against Vergo?


losing his jutte would be irrelevant against DoFla, as his fruit is almost 100% sure a paramecia. The jutte itself is good against logias, as it allows him to hit them, and can also help to hurt fruits that would resist physical damage (like luffy's rubber), due to the sea stone having a comparable effect on fruit users as haki would.

CSSolutionstv
Profile Joined November 2010
118 Posts
February 06 2013 14:53 GMT
#5974
On February 06 2013 18:18 RiZu wrote:
Why are people doubting Smoker? He was in Loguetown for so long at East Sea, his Logia simply make him unstoppable there. He just recently started getting stronger and moved to G5. On the other hand, DD had being a Shichibukai for 20 years. But honestly a marine development is so MUCH SLOWER than pirate. X-Drake was a rear-admiral and the instant he became a pirate his bounty started to rise. Smoker is considered extremely powerful already in term of marine development, he became a vice-admiral in 2 years from a captain as far as I remembered.


To be fair... Marines are not "wanted by the law" so they cant have bounties. It was expected of him, having been a read admiral, that as soon as he "broke bad", his bounty would rise. Also, i agree that while smoker has allways been shown as someone who could possibly rival luffy, his fruit has never been OP, unlike others, like Magellans, or very strong logias like the admirals have.

Its weird though, Ace was considered super strong (strong enough to almost defeat post fruit Blackbeard), and yet, he fought to a draw With smoker since he could not hit him (ace had no haki?).

Anyways, Doflamingo has allways been portrayed as one of the stronger schibukai, so its expected of him to be as strong as he is.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
February 06 2013 15:13 GMT
#5975
On February 06 2013 23:53 CSSolutionstv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 18:18 RiZu wrote:
Why are people doubting Smoker? He was in Loguetown for so long at East Sea, his Logia simply make him unstoppable there. He just recently started getting stronger and moved to G5. On the other hand, DD had being a Shichibukai for 20 years. But honestly a marine development is so MUCH SLOWER than pirate. X-Drake was a rear-admiral and the instant he became a pirate his bounty started to rise. Smoker is considered extremely powerful already in term of marine development, he became a vice-admiral in 2 years from a captain as far as I remembered.


To be fair... Marines are not "wanted by the law" so they cant have bounties. It was expected of him, having been a read admiral, that as soon as he "broke bad", his bounty would rise. Also, i agree that while smoker has allways been shown as someone who could possibly rival luffy, his fruit has never been OP, unlike others, like Magellans, or very strong logias like the admirals have.

Its weird though, Ace was considered super strong (strong enough to almost defeat post fruit Blackbeard), and yet, he fought to a draw With smoker since he could not hit him (ace had no haki?).

Anyways, Doflamingo has allways been portrayed as one of the stronger schibukai, so its expected of him to be as strong as he is.


I dont think its that Ace couldnt beat him, he was just making time for Luffy and Co to run away. All Ace did was hold smoker until Luffy was away. Its kind of like saying that Dragon only came to a draw with Smoker because he didnt beat the crap out of him, but in reality it wasn't their goals to beat Smoker just stop him from what he was doing.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
February 06 2013 15:47 GMT
#5976
Smoker's set up to be a sympathizer, not a rival. He's there to be impressed by how great the pirates are while sticking to his own principles. He doesn't need to be that strong to do it.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 06 2013 16:19 GMT
#5977
On February 06 2013 23:27 CSSolutionstv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 18:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
Smoker losing to DF is not really surprising, Shichibukai are chosen for being exceptionally strong pirates after all. And didn't he lose his weapon when fighting against Vergo?


losing his jutte would be irrelevant against DoFla, as his fruit is almost 100% sure a paramecia. The jutte itself is good against logias, as it allows him to hit them, and can also help to hurt fruits that would resist physical damage (like luffy's rubber), due to the sea stone having a comparable effect on fruit users as haki would.


its like saying Zoro losing his swords would be irrelevant the Jutte is the weapon hes trained to fight with
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 18:12:25
February 06 2013 18:11 GMT
#5978
shanks fought kaido to stop him from getting to whitebeard, and DF looks like he gonna shit his pants when he turns around
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 06 2013 18:46 GMT
#5979
Why do you all assume Flamingo will be beaten for good in the next arc? After Fishman Island there was similar talk about how Big Mom is probably the weakest yonkou because Luffy declared war on her and therefore she would be beaten in the next arc.

All I saw is that Flamingo had a smooth operation going. Good for him.
Then Law gets all uppity in his face, disrupting his smooth operations and then even demands that Flamingo shall retire from the shichibukai. If I was Flamingo I would be enraged too.
However, this only means that DF doesn't take insubordination lightly and maybe he is choleric. I see no reason to think DF is caught with his pants down and that he has no more aces up his sleeve(not going for card jokes here).

I think the strawhats will rustle all the jimmies of everyone ever before the first yonkou falls.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
February 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#5980
On February 07 2013 03:11 i am plus wrote:
shanks fought kaido to stop him from getting to whitebeard, and DF looks like he gonna shit his pants when he turns around


I would too if the freaking Admiral who was going to be fleet Admiral is standing right behind me.
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