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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Etopizdec
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium12 Posts
February 05 2013 19:24 GMT
#5941
fuck yeah Aokiji, wanna see more of him, really like him considering he hasnt been appearing THAT much, probably second favourite character after Zoro overall...
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 19:33:54
February 05 2013 19:33 GMT
#5942
Great chapter! I still watch the anime and enjoy it. I can see why some people would have a problem with it though. One piece doesn't really do long filler arcs like naruto, but it has always been close to catching up to the manga. Therefore, they use a different approach from filler arcs and do filler within eps by dragging things out and ruining the pacing.

Heck it took luffy forever to cross the bridge to reach ace when trying to save him from the execution platform. It's kind of pick your poison filler, either you do long filler arcs like naruto or you do filler within eps like one piece to keep the story from the manga going but ruining the pacing. In an ideal world, you could redo the anime from the ace arc to get rid of all that filler and fix the pacing so it's more streamlined and then the anime would be just as great as it was earlier.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 05 2013 19:35 GMT
#5943
Law said he was going to Greenbit to Smoker but said he was going to Dressrosa to the Strawhats. So was Law lying in case DonFlamingo came back and interrogated the Marines or is that the same place? I'm guess Law lied which if so is pretty smart, having DonFlamingo go the wrong place while they raid his HQ.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 19:55:04
February 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#5944
On February 06 2013 01:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 00:50 Capped wrote:
I will give it a chance then, i dont read manga because i just cant get into it for unknown reasons (i can read a good novel just fine.) so i make do with the animes.

I love naruto but even that sucked up till about ep15-20 with the battle w/ zabuza.

Time to dedicate some time to one piece!

Bleach has me hooked already though, and i watched that right after one piece, just watched a 2nd ep over dinner. Lets see if my wife will dedicate our night time programs to one piece :D


Bleach has a sick first arc especially. That was one of the better written arcs in any manga I've read.

Nothing compares to that one One Piece arc in Marineford though. Not gonna tell you more, you go watch that! Actually read the manga, it's WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better then the recent anime. Anime quality in general has been going down except for some really well done ones like Nurarihyon no Mago.


Yeah the MF arc is a slaughter in the anime T_T watching baggy and mr3 being goofy just killed the momentum. Water7/Enies Lobies is by far my favorite arc in the anime, it respects the story line and some episodes were very well animated (Luffy vs Lucci final battle is a blast!).


On February 06 2013 04:53 Sableyeah wrote:
Donquixote D. Oflamingo?


Haha please no, this trick has been used once already !
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
February 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#5945
Donquixote D. Oflamingo?
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 21:55:39
February 05 2013 20:02 GMT
#5946
On February 06 2013 04:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 00:50 Capped wrote:
I will give it a chance then, i dont read manga because i just cant get into it for unknown reasons (i can read a good novel just fine.) so i make do with the animes.

I love naruto but even that sucked up till about ep15-20 with the battle w/ zabuza.

Time to dedicate some time to one piece!

Bleach has me hooked already though, and i watched that right after one piece, just watched a 2nd ep over dinner. Lets see if my wife will dedicate our night time programs to one piece :D


Bleach has a sick first arc especially. That was one of the better written arcs in any manga I've read.

Nothing compares to that one One Piece arc in Marineford though. Not gonna tell you more, you go watch that! Actually read the manga, it's WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better then the recent anime. Anime quality in general has been going down except for some really well done ones like Nurarihyon no Mago.


Yeah the MF arc is a slaughter in the anime T_T watching baggy and mr3 being goofy just killed the momentum. Water7/Enies Lobies is by far my favorite arc in the anime, it respects the story line and some episodes were very well animated (Luffy vs Lucci final battle is a blast!).


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 04:53 Sableyeah wrote:
Donquixote D. Oflamingo?


Haha please no, this trick has been used once already !

My favorite arc is Skypiea. I watched it like three times. I got goosebumps when they reached the sky

Enel, Gan fall's arrive, Luffy's imitations and songs, Shandians, Mantra, Gol D. Roger 's words on Poneglyph Everything was awesome about Skypiea.

"I have come here and will lead this passage to the farthest end of the world." Pirate Gol D. Roger
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
February 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#5947
Skypiea was damn awesome yeah. I don't regret missing classes to watch it. :D
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 23:43:09
February 05 2013 23:40 GMT
#5948
i think aokiji will train smoker to be stronger

edit: similar to how luffy got trained by ray
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politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
February 05 2013 23:40 GMT
#5949
I like how the lines are blurring even more now. It's not just pirates vs marines and government, instead now it's more of a spectrum with some pirates helping the government, and some marines (or ex-marines) helping the pirates. It's getting more and more complex as the story progresses.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 05 2013 23:42 GMT
#5950
On February 06 2013 05:02 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 04:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On February 06 2013 01:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 00:50 Capped wrote:
I will give it a chance then, i dont read manga because i just cant get into it for unknown reasons (i can read a good novel just fine.) so i make do with the animes.

I love naruto but even that sucked up till about ep15-20 with the battle w/ zabuza.

Time to dedicate some time to one piece!

Bleach has me hooked already though, and i watched that right after one piece, just watched a 2nd ep over dinner. Lets see if my wife will dedicate our night time programs to one piece :D


Bleach has a sick first arc especially. That was one of the better written arcs in any manga I've read.

Nothing compares to that one One Piece arc in Marineford though. Not gonna tell you more, you go watch that! Actually read the manga, it's WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better then the recent anime. Anime quality in general has been going down except for some really well done ones like Nurarihyon no Mago.


Yeah the MF arc is a slaughter in the anime T_T watching baggy and mr3 being goofy just killed the momentum. Water7/Enies Lobies is by far my favorite arc in the anime, it respects the story line and some episodes were very well animated (Luffy vs Lucci final battle is a blast!).


On February 06 2013 04:53 Sableyeah wrote:
Donquixote D. Oflamingo?


Haha please no, this trick has been used once already !

My favorite arc is Skypiea. I watched it like three times. I got goosebumps when they reached the sky

Enel, Gan fall's arrive, Luffy's imitations and songs, Shandians, Mantra, Gol D. Roger 's words on Poneglyph Everything was awesome about Skypiea.

"I have come here and will lead this passage to the farthest end of the world." Pirate Gol D. Roger

In one aspect, One Piece is really similar to ASOIAF, it gets better on the second read.
You can find a lot of foreshadowing on one piece and how everithing had a reason to happen and is interlaced.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 05 2013 23:50 GMT
#5951
Kinemon and his son certainly know something about Kaidou. I doubt they or Wano country work with him because of how much Kinemon hate pirates, but there's certainly something up. I don't think Aokiji and Doflamingo will fight, since it isn't really important to Doflamingo to kill all the G5s. I really like how Doflamingo looks totally fine with things, despite getting pressured so hard by Law in the previous chapter.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 06 2013 00:09 GMT
#5952
off topic:

Shakky from Sabaody.

[image loading]

who is she ? how strong she is/was? She must be legendary pirate. I mean Garp used to chase him when she was pirate. I dont know why Oda-sensei didnt give us more information about her. I really would like to know more about her.

I hope we will see her again T_T I wonder her Pirate crew too.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 00:31:20
February 06 2013 00:30 GMT
#5953
Eh Shakky is one of those characters that have a back story alluded too, but it's doubtful we'll actually get to hear it. You might as well ask what it was like on the to be part of the Roger Pirates. They might be interesting stories, but I don't see how they are important to understanding the current story. Heck I doubt we'll even learn how she stays youthful looking.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 06 2013 00:35 GMT
#5954
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 06 2013 00:57 GMT
#5955
On February 06 2013 09:35 absalom86 wrote:
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.


Have you been reading any chapters in Past 2 of One Piece?
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2552 Posts
February 06 2013 01:43 GMT
#5956
On February 06 2013 09:35 absalom86 wrote:
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.

Okay, a few things here:
1. Smoker did not get owned by Vergo. He was fighting on par with him until he decided to take a massive blow in order to retrieve Law's heart because he owed him.
2. Doflamingo is probably on par with an Admiral. I would be very surprised if he wasn't. The misconception that Doflamingo is weak because he is afraid of Kaido is not true. Kaido is strong, yeah, but he also has an army of 500 zoans. That's probably the strongest crew on the sea right now and Kaido himself is on Whitebeard's (without the hole in his chest and face) level.
I understand that regular shounen logic doesn't usually apply to One Piece, but there is still some traces of 'power levels' in the OP universe. A second in command is almost always less powerful than the leader, this is shown in every boss in OP like Hachi, Dazango, Gin, Chess, Mr. 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyouzu and Monet. Therefore, with simple math, if Vergo = Smoker and Doffy > Vergo then Doffy > Smoker. His defeat is not very surprising.
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absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 06 2013 01:58 GMT
#5957
On February 06 2013 10:43 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 09:35 absalom86 wrote:
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.

Okay, a few things here:
1. Smoker did not get owned by Vergo. He was fighting on par with him until he decided to take a massive blow in order to retrieve Law's heart because he owed him.
2. Doflamingo is probably on par with an Admiral. I would be very surprised if he wasn't. The misconception that Doflamingo is weak because he is afraid of Kaido is not true. Kaido is strong, yeah, but he also has an army of 500 zoans. That's probably the strongest crew on the sea right now and Kaido himself is on Whitebeard's (without the hole in his chest and face) level.
I understand that regular shounen logic doesn't usually apply to One Piece, but there is still some traces of 'power levels' in the OP universe. A second in command is almost always less powerful than the leader, this is shown in every boss in OP like Hachi, Dazango, Gin, Chess, Mr. 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyouzu and Monet. Therefore, with simple math, if Vergo = Smoker and Doffy > Vergo then Doffy > Smoker. His defeat is not very surprising.


Defeat is one thing. One sided beat down is another. There isn't a scratch on Doflaboy. Luffy vs Zoro wouldn't leave one completely unharmed, I doubt Raleigh vs the Pirate King would have either... ( although, who knows how powerful Roger was ). Doflamingo has just been a schichibukai... probably one of the strongest ones, but I guess he has strong haki if he can beat Smoker up that badly, guess that explains his conqueror haki earlier in the chapter.
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Spermwahale
Profile Joined June 2012
United States85 Posts
February 06 2013 01:59 GMT
#5958
On February 06 2013 10:43 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 09:35 absalom86 wrote:
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.

Okay, a few things here:
1. Smoker did not get owned by Vergo. He was fighting on par with him until he decided to take a massive blow in order to retrieve Law's heart because he owed him.
2. Doflamingo is probably on par with an Admiral. I would be very surprised if he wasn't. The misconception that Doflamingo is weak because he is afraid of Kaido is not true. Kaido is strong, yeah, but he also has an army of 500 zoans. That's probably the strongest crew on the sea right now and Kaido himself is on Whitebeard's (without the hole in his chest and face) level.
I understand that regular shounen logic doesn't usually apply to One Piece, but there is still some traces of 'power levels' in the OP universe. A second in command is almost always less powerful than the leader, this is shown in every boss in OP like Hachi, Dazango, Gin, Chess, Mr. 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyouzu and Monet. Therefore, with simple math, if Vergo = Smoker and Doffy > Vergo then Doffy > Smoker. His defeat is not very surprising.


Whitebeard was the strongest man. Kaido is not on whitebeard's level. -_-
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 02:09:49
February 06 2013 02:09 GMT
#5959
And Kaido is called the strongest thing alive. I would say that makes it enough of a debate. Plus even if Whitebeard is stronger the point Hyperbola is making was Kaido is as strong around the same strength Whitebeard.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
February 06 2013 03:05 GMT
#5960
On February 06 2013 11:09 BlackMagister wrote:
And Kaido is called the strongest thing alive. I would say that makes it enough of a debate. Plus even if Whitebeard is stronger the point Hyperbola is making was Kaido is as strong around the same strength Whitebeard.

On February 06 2013 11:09 BlackMagister wrote:
And Kaido is called the strongest thing alive.

On February 06 2013 11:09 BlackMagister wrote:
alive.


Whitebeard is dead, so Kaido being the strongest thing alive can't be used as a comparison between the two.

On February 06 2013 10:58 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 10:43 Hyperbola wrote:
On February 06 2013 09:35 absalom86 wrote:
Man. Is Smoker that weak ? First he gets pownd by Vergo, and now completely mopped by Doflamingo. Figured Logia would be hard to beat, even if he wasn't that powerful.

Okay, a few things here:
1. Smoker did not get owned by Vergo. He was fighting on par with him until he decided to take a massive blow in order to retrieve Law's heart because he owed him.
2. Doflamingo is probably on par with an Admiral. I would be very surprised if he wasn't. The misconception that Doflamingo is weak because he is afraid of Kaido is not true. Kaido is strong, yeah, but he also has an army of 500 zoans. That's probably the strongest crew on the sea right now and Kaido himself is on Whitebeard's (without the hole in his chest and face) level.
I understand that regular shounen logic doesn't usually apply to One Piece, but there is still some traces of 'power levels' in the OP universe. A second in command is almost always less powerful than the leader, this is shown in every boss in OP like Hachi, Dazango, Gin, Chess, Mr. 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyouzu and Monet. Therefore, with simple math, if Vergo = Smoker and Doffy > Vergo then Doffy > Smoker. His defeat is not very surprising.


Defeat is one thing. One sided beat down is another. There isn't a scratch on Doflaboy. Luffy vs Zoro wouldn't leave one completely unharmed, I doubt Raleigh vs the Pirate King would have either... ( although, who knows how powerful Roger was ). Doflamingo has just been a schichibukai... probably one of the strongest ones, but I guess he has strong haki if he can beat Smoker up that badly, guess that explains his conqueror haki earlier in the chapter.


Luffy and Zoro are commonly set up to give the impression the two are almost equal in strength. Obviously the two fighting each other wouldn't leave one unharmed, but that's not even a good comparison. Not to mention Smoker had recently just gotten the shit kicked out of him by Vergo, so it's not as though he was at 100%. It's not a stretch that the fight between the two ended up so one-sided.
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