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On October 19 2019 10:26 Zambrah wrote:That being said I'm just enjoying wondering if he's going to look silly or serious while I wait for the big reveal that he's Zoros father. 
Oh god please no
I'm wasn't too keen on Sanji being revealed as royalty. The charm for me was that the Straw Hats are common people forging their own paths instead of them all being part of some elite pirate lineage.
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On October 19 2019 16:19 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2019 10:26 Zambrah wrote:That being said I'm just enjoying wondering if he's going to look silly or serious while I wait for the big reveal that he's Zoros father. Oh god please no I'm wasn't too keen on Sanji being revealed as royalty. The charm for me was that the Straw Hats are common people forging their own paths instead of them all being part of some elite pirate lineage.
I agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately, eugenics are a large part of Japanese media. There are those who are destined for greatness at birth and everyone else is a loser.
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It is a crutch of a lot of fantasy writers, not really a Japanese thing. If anything a lot of shows emphasis hard work over natural talent.
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On October 19 2019 16:19 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2019 10:26 Zambrah wrote:That being said I'm just enjoying wondering if he's going to look silly or serious while I wait for the big reveal that he's Zoros father. Oh god please no I'm wasn't too keen on Sanji being revealed as royalty. The charm for me was that the Straw Hats are common people forging their own paths instead of them all being part of some elite pirate lineage.
really hated that whole part, his womanizing is just genetic and his morals are just copied from Zef so sanji doesnt really have much as an individual
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^Tbf you can generalize behavior always down to that. We all are a product of our genes and different influences, I don't think that makes Sanji less fun as a character.
But I agree that I don't want a Eugenics part if it isn't dreadful like in mobile suit gundam seed, Naruto f.e. got more and more full of eugenics which took a big dump on the initial per aspera ad astra story Naruto himself was representing.
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This is the same anime where the main character is the son of the biggest threat to the world government and the grandsom of the hero of the marines right? All of them being infused by a mysterious will of fate inscribed into their name. A story of the strawhat crew being common people this is not. There's not many left in the Strawhat crew without some sort of elite connection to somebody. Not a fan of that type of storytelling but its stupidly prevalent in manga, probably because its an easy way out to make a reason why a character must do something.
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Zoro could be descended from that group of Samurai that left Wano a long time ago, tho it is much more likely his sensei was the one descended from them. A lot of the straw hats have connections to people but only Sanji is actually related to royalty and Luffy is related to a Marine hero and a criminal, both of low birth but having the D. I guess Usopp is related to another pirate who is a core crew member on Shanks ship as well.
Most of the rest of the crew we don't even know their parents or they were just normal (like Robin's mom).
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As far as "elite" blood goes, only Sanji, Luffy (maybe), and Usopp (mmaayybeeee) could be counted that way. All the rest either have unknown birth or normal birth. Sure, lots of characters have connections to important people via growing up or just their general history, but thats how stories work. The story would be boring if the characters had no connections to anything important.
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On October 21 2019 23:38 Sentenal wrote:
As far as "elite" blood goes, only Sanji, Luffy (maybe), and Usopp (mmaayybeeee) could be counted that way. All the rest either have unknown birth or normal birth. Sure, lots of characters have connections to important people via growing up or just their general history, but thats how stories work. The story would be boring if the characters had no connections to anything important.
Let's not forget Ace.
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Ace isn't a Strawhat, so I didn't really count him.
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i think robin should be counted in the group with extraordinary birth, Franky and nami will probably be revealed to have a super bloodline eventually
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Robin's mother is literally just some random woman who happened to be a scholar who happened to learn something unfortunate. There isn't anything extraordinary about her at all. Nami was orphaned in some warzone in some backwater place in East Blue. Franky's parents were some no-name Pirates. Brook's birth is entirely unknown and probably mundane. Jinbe grew up in basically the slum of Fishman Island and was probably an orphan. Chopper's parents were some random deer. Zoro's birth is also still unknown.
So other than Sanji and Luffy, and to a much lesser extent Usopp, the Strawhats don't have much significance to their parentage.
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^ I agree.
Named characters depicted in the manga like Olvia are unnamed characters who carry no significance.
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Cant wait for the revelation that Chopper is from the royal bloodline of blue nosed deers, the guardian animals of the ancient kingdom. Only GODA could think of such an original and exciting plot twist
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On October 22 2019 05:47 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
^ I agree.
Named characters depicted in the manga like Olvia are unnamed characters who carry no significance.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not lol
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No, not everyone can be the child of Royalty or the most wanted man in the world, but there are a lot of bigshot parents of the Strawhats in their own ways.
Luffy - Father is the world's most wanted man. Grandfather is the hero of the marines. Is a "D".
Sanji - Was a random kid on a cruise liner until we found out his dad was the leader of the Germa and he's actually royalty. Raised by a semi big shot pirate.
Usopp - Father is Yasopp, one of Shanks's top men. Definitely the son of a bigshot.
Robin - Daughter of Nico Olivia, a major scholar who opposed the world government. Olivia was hunted down by the world government, imprisoned, but convinced a giant to help her escape. In turn, her entire island was destroyed. She may not have been much of a fighter, but she's a bigshot for other reasons and Robin is carrying on her will. Her father is still unknown in the story, but Olivia was trying to carry out his work, so there could be even more revealed.
Vivi - Has spent more time with the Strawhats than Jimbe. Obviously royalty.
Zoro - Unknown parentage, but trained by Koushirou who is friendly with the revolutionaries. My bet is on Zoro being the son of Shimotsuki Ushimaru (former leader in Ringo), not Oden, but still a big name.
Franky - Unknown parentage, but some guess that he's the son of Vegapunk. Franky picks up technology at an astounding rate, not normal for the child of random pirates. It's been theorized that Vegapunk used to be a pirate before being taken by the marines and Franky was dropped off to protect him.
Nami - Unknown parentage, but still some possibilities after being picked up in a warzone.
Jimbe - Probably no bigshot lineage.
Brook - Probably no bigshot lineage.
Chopper - Just a deer.
So, I'd say, Luffy, Sanji, Usopp, Robin, and Vivi all have bigshot parents. Zoro and Franky are likely to have bigshot parents. Nami is questionable. Jimbe, Brook, and Chopper are probably not. Making for a story mostly of extraordinary children following in their parents' footsteps in some way.
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Robin's mother was just a scholar who learned something the Government didn't want people to learn, and killed her for it. And we are also lead to believe that this sort of thing happens somewhat regularly, and is just hidden from the press. Shes significant in terms of Robin's backstory, but she wasn't some famous big name figure like some of the people people being talked about here. She was just a researcher who the government killed.
Also its really weird to me that Vivi would be included on that list when she hasn't sailed with the crew in like.... 700 chapters?
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On October 22 2019 05:36 Sentenal wrote:
Robin's mother is literally just some random woman who happened to be a scholar who happened to learn something unfortunate. There isn't anything extraordinary about her at all. Nami was orphaned in some warzone in some backwater place in East Blue. Franky's parents were some no-name Pirates. Brook's birth is entirely unknown and probably mundane. Jinbe grew up in basically the slum of Fishman Island and was probably an orphan. Chopper's parents were some random deer. Zoro's birth is also still unknown.
So other than Sanji and Luffy, and to a much lesser extent Usopp, the Strawhats don't have much significance to their parentage.
Sanji was just some oprhan on a boat until he became royalty
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Yea, lets let Oda be the one in charge of doing that instead of blind speculation.
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