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Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

June 08 2019 02:53 GMT

#29961

Zoans are definitely the least versatile fruits unless you get something totally baller like Phoenix or Dragon

I'm sure you can find some paramecias that are shittier but they seem to offer the most creativity

Zoans would be more valuable if normal bodied humans couldnt perform superhuman feats of speed, jumping, strength, etc.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8695 Posts

June 08 2019 06:23 GMT

#29962

yeah the appeal of transforming into a massive dinosaur seems to be reduced a lot because weve already seen small guys like luffy or zoro literally bring down buildings with a single punch or swing of their sword. you have to put things into perspective though, characters like luffy or zoro are in the top 1% even in the one piece world. the rest are more closer to average humans and if you were to go up against any moderate sized animal, let alone a dinosaur, as a human then youre pretty dead. so it makes a lot of sense that the beast pirates are extremely formidable; even their fodder characters can easily go 1:1 against most of their enemies.

Shinokuki

United States893 Posts

June 08 2019 07:47 GMT

#29963

I honestly don't get how yonko can just one shot characters like luffy and queen.

We've seen akainu go head to head with whitebeard and make it alive and face 14 WB commanders + 2 shichibukai. However before that he was facing marco. If yonko can one shot YCM then akainu should've one shot marco as well. Just lot of inconsistencies within one piece right now regarding power level.

Zambrah

United States7355 Posts

June 08 2019 09:37 GMT

#29964

Akainu survived his encounter with Whitebeard, but he did not look like he was on the dying old man's level while the encounter was happening, Marineford Akainu is probably roughly on a Queen or Dogtooth level? Not like either of those characters wouldn't get smashed by Big ol Mom

sharkie

Austria18458 Posts

June 08 2019 09:46 GMT

#29965

Big mom is super strong, kaidou is super strong. Whitebeard used to be super strong thats why he struggled in the war

Slaughter

United States20254 Posts

June 08 2019 10:17 GMT

#29966

Well Marco was like the #1 in the WB so comparing him to Queen is not that good of a comparison. There is usually clear distinction in power between the #2's in the crew and other commanders. Marco is also very durable with his unique fruit. We also have barely begun to see the fight as it remains to be seen if Queen was "1 shot".

Akainu also got bodied solidly hard by a dying WB and the only time you ever saw fear from him. Not really inconsistent at all.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

June 10 2019 05:23 GMT

#29967

On June 08 2019 16:47 Shinokuki wrote:
I honestly don't get how yonko can just one shot characters like luffy and queen.

We've seen akainu go head to head with whitebeard and make it alive and face 14 WB commanders + 2 shichibukai. However before that he was facing marco. If yonko can one shot YCM then akainu should've one shot marco as well. Just lot of inconsistencies within one piece right now regarding power level.

power levels are starting to get way more wack after time skip

Hyperbola

United States2540 Posts

June 10 2019 17:57 GMT

#29968

>more power level discussion

It's all so tiresome

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

June 10 2019 18:26 GMT

#29969

I've seen enough Kaiju movies to know why turning into a big Kaiju might impart some advantages into battle

evilfatsh1t

Australia8695 Posts

June 21 2019 05:43 GMT

#29970

new chapters out.
queen got dumpstered so that was pretty anti climactic. also rayleigh unlocking the mermaids collar in sabaody is getting its explanation finally

Ej_

47656 Posts

June 21 2019 07:46 GMT

#29971

The shit has just become very much real.

Incognoto

France10239 Posts

June 22 2019 02:00 GMT

#29972

Queen got dumpstered by Big Mom, duh?! It's Big Mom and also Queen is hardly out of the fight just yet. He's just been knocked out a bit. I promise you he will get back up soon

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

June 22 2019 14:50 GMT

#29973

Queen gets up and complains that he didn't get to explain his secret powerup and special skills and special abilities for a chapter before fighting as tradition in shounen expects. He'll then get asked to explain it in 20 words or less.

Hyperbola

United States2540 Posts

June 22 2019 16:43 GMT

#29974

Ooh baby. Looks like Luffy's getting a buff. Now he'll actually be able to do damage to Kaido.

Olli

Austria24420 Posts

June 22 2019 18:41 GMT

#29975

Turns out I was right about Brachiosauri

Shinokuki

United States893 Posts

June 23 2019 06:12 GMT

#29976

i don't feel any sense of danger or urgency ever since dress rosa. it's like there is absolutely no consequence. no one will die any way. how convenient that queen sets up a training for luffy and big mom somehow gets to the prison mine for luffy to easily break out of the prison? was expecting some creative will power break through via extreme torture.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

June 24 2019 06:41 GMT

#29977

On June 23 2019 15:12 Shinokuki wrote:
i don't feel any sense of danger or urgency ever since dress rosa. it's like there is absolutely no consequence. no one will die any way. how convenient that queen sets up a training for luffy and big mom somehow gets to the prison mine for luffy to easily break out of the prison? was expecting some creative will power break through via extreme torture.

Kaidous entire crew has just been conveniently incompetent the whole arc, pretty big difference after seeing moms crew

Olli

Austria24420 Posts

June 24 2019 07:06 GMT

#29978

I'd say King has done fairly well

It does kind of fit the man in the charge, though. Kaido isn't exactly the most reasonable or disciplined person either. Big Mom, on the other hand, was quite shrewd about things like political marriages, pressuring people to do her will, and building what was essentially a country. Very different personality, and therefore a different crew. I don't mind it.

Archeon

3258 Posts

June 24 2019 12:09 GMT

#29979

Agreed that the difference in pressure in part comes from Kaido running basically a bandit group where everyone more or less works alone. Big Mom took personal offense by people intruding her country, Kaido just doesn't really care.

I think Orochi could be less of an incompetent comic villain, but I think it's generally fine that there's a bit of change in pace, makes those arcs more different. The setup is very similar after all.

That smile only produces dinosaurs is a bit boring though, since that reduces the number of things they can do instead of increasing them.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

June 25 2019 05:55 GMT

#29980

On June 24 2019 16:06 Olli wrote:
I'd say King has done fairly well

It does kind of fit the man in the charge, though. Kaido isn't exactly the most reasonable or disciplined person either. Big Mom, on the other hand, was quite shrewd about things like political marriages, pressuring people to do her will, and building what was essentially a country. Very different personality, and therefore a different crew. I don't mind it.

pretty much, the beast pirates are just strong people subjugated by even stronger people so theres a severe lack of organization or people who know how to do anything but fight