EPTAokiji, Garp, Buggy, Bartholomeo, the ex boss from impel down, Sengoku, lots of the Shichibukai etc. there are quite a few, Although there are of course lots of white knights like Shanks and through and through villains like Blackbeard/Akainu.
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Waterboarding
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Aokiji, Garp, Buggy, Bartholomeo, the ex boss from impel down, Sengoku, lots of the Shichibukai etc. there are quite a few, Although there are of course lots of white knights like Shanks and through and through villains like Blackbeard/Akainu. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1091 Posts
Or someone like Arlong that has good reason to hate humans, although he did take it out on the wrong humans. Complete evil to start, but then we understand why. If you don't think Akainu is going to get a tragic backstory that at least partially justifies his hatred for Pirates, you haven't been paying attention. Even Blackbeard encouraged Luffy the first time he met Luffy. He is a D after all and he may actually know a lot more than we've been told and is trying to fulfill some noble destiny at any cost. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18648 Posts
Actually in One piece there are almost only grey characters | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On April 05 2019 20:26 sharkie wrote: The whole marines and world government are all grey no? We see mostly bad stuff happening but I am sure tons of islands live happier lives because of them Actually in One piece there are almost only grey characters I wouldn't say "almost only". Here's a list of antagonists that are just straight up evil: 1. Alvida 2. Axe hand Morgan 3. Kuro 4. Kreig 5. Arlong (miss me with that "racism" bullshit justification) 6. Wapol 7. Enel 8. Hody 9. Caesar 10. Orochi There's also a few that are debatable like Lucci, Akainu, and Crocodile. You could argue that they all have some redeeming qualities but their actions are generally cartoonishly evil. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 05 2019 17:39 Waterboarding wrote: Aokiji, Garp, Buggy, Bartholomeo, the ex boss from impel down, Sengoku, lots of the Shichibukai etc. there are quite a few, Although there are of course lots of white knights like Shanks and through and through villains like Blackbeard/Akainu. i wouldnt say any of those are grey... Buggy? how the hell is Buggy grey? Garp is all white whats your definition of someone being grey...? | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 06 2019 23:44 MajuGarzett wrote: Garp knowingly supporting an evil government is pretty grey. how do you even know that it's completely evil? Garp protects civilians. He isn't in the marines to be the government's dog or get rich or for power or whatever. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 06 2019 23:44 MajuGarzett wrote: Garp knowingly supporting an evil government is pretty grey. hes not really supporting it, the marines are the best way for him to protect people and raise people who will go on to protect more peopke | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 08 2019 15:15 MajuGarzett wrote: I agree Garp is trying to do good by working for the marines but he also stands by while they practice slavery and prop up totalitarian regimes etc. He's good but not as good as someone like Luffy so to me he is grey. your definition of grey is just way too wide then, theres nothing he can do about the slavery aside from what hes already doing just because they arent perfect doesnt mean there grey, Garp does no evil therefore hes white | ||
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Archeon
3265 Posts
Akainu f.e. mainly is a hardliner who does his job, he's by no means 100% evil despite being a major antagonist with extreme tendencies. His goals aren't evil, he just pursues them with extreme ruthlessness. I'd rate him on the darker shade of grey, but still a shade of grey compared to f.e. Caesar who's straight up evil. Garp on the other hand could work with the revolutionary army instead of for the marines to fix slavery and tyranny. He had the choice to work against the WGO to fix the issues they create or work with them to fix the issues everyone else creates. He decided to work with the guys who commit atrocities to have more influence. Then there are characters like Big Mum who is maniacal and dangerous, but who happened to create a prospering kingdom. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On April 09 2019 01:56 Forikorder wrote: your definition of grey is just way too wide then, theres nothing he can do about the slavery aside from what hes already doing just because they arent perfect doesnt mean there grey, Garp does no evil therefore hes white Pretty much what Archeon said. Garp could do the at least as much good as a pirate or revolutionary without having to refrain from acting on atrocities perpetrated by the government. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
604 Posts
if there’s some room for ambiguity then we can apply the label. there’s some great works of recent fiction that feature character should who are very divisive and I think some people here are dismissive of anything that doesn’t meet those expectations. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
For example Garp is Lawful Good, Smoker is Lawful Neutral and Akainu is Lawful Evil. And while I'm at it Luffy is probably Chaotic Good, considering how he doesn't give a damn about the laws and acts on his own morals. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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