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stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
i personally didnt like birdcage that much, wouldve much rather seen the fights vs executives be tougher and happen at the same time as doflamingo.
Also, i didnt like Sabo just ignoring luffy vs doflamingo, when luffy literally couldnt move. doesnt make much sense to me - and lets be real, he doesnt have his hands full with jesus burgess at all.
Other than that i really enjoyed this arc, some minor hickups, but well, we dont know what he has all planned for the future, we want things to go to our own wishes now espeically after the timeskip
Even though Dressrosa is small compared to other countries, there is no god damn food nor infrastructure left for all these people. The entire country is rubble. No one died because of the cage but many will die due to starvation or exposure. Unless of course the marines step in and provide for these guys or something.
On June 26 2015 09:30 Hyperbola wrote: Even though Dressrosa is small compared to other countries, there is no god damn food nor infrastructure left for all these people. The entire country is rubble. No one died because of the cage but many will die due to starvation or exposure. Unless of course the marines step in and provide for these guys or something.
There has to be enough food around for a party, right? Having a party at the end of an arc is like a law of the universe.
On June 26 2015 09:30 Hyperbola wrote: Even though Dressrosa is small compared to other countries, there is no god damn food nor infrastructure left for all these people. The entire country is rubble. No one died because of the cage but many will die due to starvation or exposure. Unless of course the marines step in and provide for these guys or something.
There has to be enough food around for a party, right? Having a party at the end of an arc is like a law of the universe.
Holy shit... I didn't even think about this! Can there even be a party?
1. not enough food. 2. Marines everywhere 3.Half the crew isn't even there, no Sanji to cook the food!
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
I have enjoyed this arc and I am sure when I reread it it will be even more enjoyable. It does seem long and the pacing has been a little too slow at parts. When I read the latest chapter at first I was like "that is it??" "Nothing happened!" but I think when you put it in a greater context (not 1 chapter per week context) then you will see that the people of Dressrosa have been ruled by DF for 10 years. This is their moment of freedom after 10 hard years. The scene with Kyros crying is so powerful because he has been working this whole time to overthrow DF. All their dreams are true and even though the country is in ruins they are happy. Even more powerful is that Kyros could never cry before (toys couldn't physically cry) so after his wife died he couldn't properly mourn her death. Nor having to train his sweet, innocent daughter to be a fighter (even though she doesn't want to injure anyone). All this pent up emotion could finally be realized when Luffy beat Doffy. What a moment, this was epic. (Now back to the guy who cooks??)
Shell: What makes you think CP-0 is still on the island? My understanding is they left the Dressrosa after they made their announcement (no source).
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
I have enjoyed this arc and I am sure when I reread it it will be even more enjoyable. It does seem long and the pacing has been a little too slow at parts. When I read the latest chapter at first I was like "that is it??" "Nothing happened!" but I think when you put it in a greater context (not 1 chapter per week context) then you will see that the people of Dressrosa have been ruled by DF for 10 years. This is their moment of freedom after 10 hard years. The scene with Kyros crying is so powerful because he has been working this whole time to overthrow DF. All their dreams are true and even though the country is in ruins they are happy. Even more powerful is that Kyros could never cry before (toys couldn't physically cry) so after his wife died he couldn't properly mourn her death. Nor having to train his sweet, innocent daughter to be a fighter (even though she doesn't want to injure anyone). All this pent up emotion could finally be realized when Luffy beat Doffy. What a moment, this was epic. (Now back to the guy who cooks??)
Shell: What makes you think CP-0 is still on the island? My understanding is they left the Dressrosa after they made their announcement (no source).
main problem is that this chapter should ahve been like a month ago or more instead we got a bunch of chapters filling up a 10 minute window
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
I have enjoyed this arc and I am sure when I reread it it will be even more enjoyable. It does seem long and the pacing has been a little too slow at parts. When I read the latest chapter at first I was like "that is it??" "Nothing happened!" but I think when you put it in a greater context (not 1 chapter per week context) then you will see that the people of Dressrosa have been ruled by DF for 10 years. This is their moment of freedom after 10 hard years. The scene with Kyros crying is so powerful because he has been working this whole time to overthrow DF. All their dreams are true and even though the country is in ruins they are happy. Even more powerful is that Kyros could never cry before (toys couldn't physically cry) so after his wife died he couldn't properly mourn her death. Nor having to train his sweet, innocent daughter to be a fighter (even though she doesn't want to injure anyone). All this pent up emotion could finally be realized when Luffy beat Doffy. What a moment, this was epic. (Now back to the guy who cooks??)
Shell: What makes you think CP-0 is still on the island? My understanding is they left the Dressrosa after they made their announcement (no source).
main problem is that this chapter should ahve been like a month ago or more instead we got a bunch of chapters filling up a 10 minute window
as sharkey and raneth just said, that problem gets fixed when you read shit in a row without having to wait every week. yeah the pacing was shit but when you look at the story overall, the shit pacing has nothing to do with the content of the story. there is another problem though, which is the whole bird cage shit and that will always tarnish this arc. that just cannot be fixed regardless of how you choose to read one piece
well i stopped reading for 4 months then i read all of dressrosa and i got super bored seeing filler characters and bunch of filler chapters so i just started skimming pages. At least for me reading a lot at once didnt help the arc imo. Which is the first arc ever of one piece i havent enjoyed
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
I have enjoyed this arc and I am sure when I reread it it will be even more enjoyable. It does seem long and the pacing has been a little too slow at parts. When I read the latest chapter at first I was like "that is it??" "Nothing happened!" but I think when you put it in a greater context (not 1 chapter per week context) then you will see that the people of Dressrosa have been ruled by DF for 10 years. This is their moment of freedom after 10 hard years. The scene with Kyros crying is so powerful because he has been working this whole time to overthrow DF. All their dreams are true and even though the country is in ruins they are happy. Even more powerful is that Kyros could never cry before (toys couldn't physically cry) so after his wife died he couldn't properly mourn her death. Nor having to train his sweet, innocent daughter to be a fighter (even though she doesn't want to injure anyone). All this pent up emotion could finally be realized when Luffy beat Doffy. What a moment, this was epic. (Now back to the guy who cooks??)
Shell: What makes you think CP-0 is still on the island? My understanding is they left the Dressrosa after they made their announcement (no source).
I don't think or know they are on the island, it's just another loose end!
I get that people might not like the arc of feel it's underwhelming but some critics just seem a bit silly..
Is this the best arc ever? ok probably not but the story keeps going forward, we get some more info on the D, we learned that what happen with the Quixote family!
Pretty sure everyone thought Crocodile had an OP fruit during the alabasta arc...and then Enel... and now Doflamingo's fruit is really OP as well... let's wait for the next one
stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki.
Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly.
Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes?
Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler
the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out
Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga?
Oda writes and draws the manga, he doesn't produce the anime, although I imagine he does have a lot of weight to throw around in the adaption if he wanted to. But the anime is supplemental at best, in terms of canon, and will never retcon the actual manga.
On June 25 2015 18:48 shell wrote: Well i don't agree with the complains and a actually liked this arc so far, lets see how it ends!
We still don't know about the CP-0, how will fujitora respond to all of this, sanji is missing, big mum, etc..
Same, I've enjoyed this arc. Its had its ups and downs, but overall its been good. The Birdcage being a DBZ-esque plot device was kinda ehhh, but there have been so other many great parts. You guys remember all the God Usopp part, Usopp awakening his haki, Sabo's reveal, Sanji going off to fight Big Mom's crew, Zoro vs Pica,, anything involving Franky, just to name a few? I feel like people are getting so focus on the disappointing parts of the arc that they are forgetting the awesome parts.
Well said! I might take a break from OP, when you read it week by week it feels SOOOO slow, but when you get to just smash out a bunch of chapters at once, its still good old one piece! ^_^
I have enjoyed this arc and I am sure when I reread it it will be even more enjoyable. It does seem long and the pacing has been a little too slow at parts. When I read the latest chapter at first I was like "that is it??" "Nothing happened!" but I think when you put it in a greater context (not 1 chapter per week context) then you will see that the people of Dressrosa have been ruled by DF for 10 years. This is their moment of freedom after 10 hard years. The scene with Kyros crying is so powerful because he has been working this whole time to overthrow DF. All their dreams are true and even though the country is in ruins they are happy. Even more powerful is that Kyros could never cry before (toys couldn't physically cry) so after his wife died he couldn't properly mourn her death. Nor having to train his sweet, innocent daughter to be a fighter (even though she doesn't want to injure anyone). All this pent up emotion could finally be realized when Luffy beat Doffy. What a moment, this was epic. (Now back to the guy who cooks??)
Shell: What makes you think CP-0 is still on the island? My understanding is they left the Dressrosa after they made their announcement (no source).
main problem is that this chapter should ahve been like a month ago or more instead we got a bunch of chapters filling up a 10 minute window
as sharkey and raneth just said, that problem gets fixed when you read shit in a row without having to wait every week. yeah the pacing was shit but when you look at the story overall, the shit pacing has nothing to do with the content of the story. there is another problem though, which is the whole bird cage shit and that will always tarnish this arc. that just cannot be fixed regardless of how you choose to read one piece
i dont think sothe chapters would still be just as pointless and deflate the tension, maybe not as much but would still prevent people from really investing in it all emotionally
On June 25 2015 18:20 ShiaoPi wrote: Am I the only one who enjoyed the emotional side of the chapter? Sometimes it feels like I am reading the "let's nitpick one piece to no end /troll bait thread"
Whatever...
i probably would have if all the tension hadnt been so dissapointing, if he had finished Dofla off with G4 the first time it would have been better but he needed 10 minutes of mooks watching his back while several ridiculously strong people capable of KOing Dofla all tried in vain to slow down the bird cage that aparently was capable of KOing an admiral and several extremely powerful people with no effort needed from Dofla, and then Luffy comes back to throw one punch then pass out again
G4 is going to have to be alot more impressive next time he uses it becuase it was so underwhelming this time, he CANT use it like he did there if he uses G4 he has to KO his opponent
Literally the exact same thing happened at Enies Lobby vs. Rob Lucci. Luffy used Gear 3 and then turns into Chibi Luffy and can't fight for X minutes until he recovers. I didn't hear all this bitching after he defeated Rob Lucci after having to run away and hide until he got big again. It's almost literally the exact same thing, except this time he hid by having some other people distract for him. This is the first time G4 has been used in combat, Luffy will clearly get better at it just as he has for Gear 3.
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