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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 30 2015 03:39 Shellshock wrote: have any major villains died? they always end up captured or run away. seems like allies are the ones that die I don't think any have died. All the ones I can think of either got captured or escaped somehow. Although for some reason I can't remember what happened to Vander Decken. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 30 2015 03:43 Sentenal wrote: I don't think any have died. All the ones I can think of either got captured or escaped somehow. Although for some reason I can't remember what happened to Vander Decken. on the wiki it says he was arrested along with Hody Jones and his pirates. It says he just wasnt shown in the scene when the officers were all shown in prison. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PX5qQjt.png) | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2534 Posts
On May 30 2015 05:38 BlackMagister wrote: The one piece wiki claims Vergo and Monet died, but they have no good source for saying that. Pell surviving the bomb he was carrying definitely leaves it open for Vergo and Monet to survive with super haki or DF power. About Ceasar stabbing Monet's heart there is some speculation that he wasn't able to fully pierce her heart because he passed out. Doflamingo said his goodbyes to both of them. I think Oda left it vague for it to not be too dark but I'm pretty sure we'll never see them again. Also in response for Doffy's fate: he will fly away. He is a caged bird, trapped in his own destiny that was forced upon him by others. Once birdcage is broken he will be free. | ||
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ShurykaN
United States338 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 30 2015 09:25 Hyperbola wrote: Doflamingo said his goodbyes to both of them. I think Oda left it vague for it to not be too dark but I'm pretty sure we'll never see them again. Also in response for Doffy's fate: he will fly away. He is a caged bird, trapped in his own destiny that was forced upon him by others. Once birdcage is broken he will be free. forced? plz he wanted it from the time he killed his own father to get back in the cool kids club | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
I mean really, you can choose to run from the cage/try to stop the near unstoppable cage, or you can just kick the shit out of the guy using it. Sure, he's strong, but even if only Zoro + Sabo joined in the fight wouldn't last that long, let alone all the other strong people in the area. And even if they lose, they accomplish a lot more than they would have focusing on the cage. Feels a bit forced to have Luffy be the only one to save the day here. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 30 2015 13:35 killa_robot wrote: While I dislike the birdcage, I think the point of it is to force people to fight Dofl rather than actually killing them. The cage itself I have no real issues with (though it really is OP as fuck), I just hate how every other strong person there is ignoring Dofl and instead focusing on the cage. I mean really, you can choose to run from the cage/try to stop the near unstoppable cage, or you can just kick the shit out of the guy using it. Sure, he's strong, but even if only Zoro + Sabo joined in the fight wouldn't last that long, let alone all the other strong people in the area. And even if they lose, they accomplish a lot more than they would have focusing on the cage. Feels a bit forced to have Luffy be the only one to save the day here. considering the entire country isnt fighting him and trying to stop the birdcage i think it defeated the purpose plus they specifically came to dressrossa to fight doflamingo | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
Not saying that my theory is true, but it does give the storyline a good reason to put the strong fighters to the bird cage instead of going to take out Doflamingo and it does make sense why the fact that bird cage was momentarily stopped is such an important detail | ||
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sertas
Sweden879 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 30 2015 09:25 Hyperbola wrote: Doflamingo said his goodbyes to both of them. I think Oda left it vague for it to not be too dark but I'm pretty sure we'll never see them again. Also in response for Doffy's fate: he will fly away. He is a caged bird, trapped in his own destiny that was forced upon him by others. Once birdcage is broken he will be free. Didn't Monet's heart get stabbed? | ||
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Elentos
55458 Posts
Yes, she got stabbed in the heart by Caesar and she and Vergo were caught in the explosion that destroyed the lab with neither having a way to defend themselves from it. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On May 30 2015 16:22 sertas wrote: but the birdcage is fucking strings like holy shit its illogical. What happened to admirals being the ultimate force? The only thing that can explain this is the "Awakening" state of DD's devil fruit. Lets wait for the explanations before saying ODA is wrong | ||
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
I could see CP 0 having something to do with the aftermath, once DD is beaten in combat, due to their apparent connection to the World Nobles + DD's bloodline. Oda really is such a tease to just show them briefly ~80 chapters ago and then not touch them since. Maybe they're out having drinks with Pirate A? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 30 2015 16:01 saltywet wrote: I think the reason that all the strong fighters are taking on the cage is that Doffy being defeated doesn't necessarily mean that bird cage will end. People here are assuming that Doffy/birdcage is similar to Sugar/toys - in that its effect will end once the DF user gets defeated. Not saying that my theory is true, but it does give the storyline a good reason to put the strong fighters to the bird cage instead of going to take out Doflamingo and it does make sense why the fact that bird cage was momentarily stopped is such an important detail in that case everyone in dressrossa is screwed though | ||
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Saumure
France404 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2534 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4UqZneB.png) Looks like the gears in her head are working. Could she have located another ancient weapon? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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