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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 28 2015 17:19 GMT
#21781
Fujitora keeps nuking his own marine underlings with his attacks. He's clumsy and he would have a hard time to target only Mingo in the middle of all those citizens. His attack's aoe radius is too wide. and being fucking blind doesn't help. He's the wrong admiral for this job.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
May 28 2015 17:49 GMT
#21782
Now the climax is closing in. And that's when Dofla will be defeated. Not when Luffy punches him into some wall, silly Forik.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 18:20:59
May 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#21783
On May 29 2015 02:11 shell wrote:
Well this is a manga, you can argue all you want and you can simply think it's wrong or not well made.

But i can imagine in a middle of a war, with a city about to be completly killed, caos on the streets, your own soldiers in danger, many "enemys" including DD and his gang, etc. mistakes can be made.

but you can't imagine that scenario, you think he should do A and that's it.. i'm ok with that since this is always open for interpretation. Fujitora is a important and strong person but he is torn with his feelings towars his position and his own sense of justice. He is not the guy that follows 100% his orders but at the same time he is not like Aokiji that can simply ignore them, he tests people and makes up his own mind. Maybe he tests to much, maybe he doesn't.

For me I like the way the story is going, i would have prefered that Luffy would have kick DD's ass quickly but it will take a bit more. It's not like it's fucking hody.. it's DD the biggest badass after the 4 younkou and admirals

i can understand some mistakes but he did literally the exact opposite of what his goal should ahve been, i mean that should be pretty clear

and one of his subordinates was even like "dude DD is literally killing the country we should prob do something about that" and he was like "STFU man like i give a fuck now go find someone helping civilians and break his legs"

Now the climax is closing in. And that's when Dofla will be defeated. Not when Luffy punches him into some wall, silly Forik.


didnt expect Oda to go full Kubo
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2536 Posts
May 28 2015 18:30 GMT
#21784
Oda's on vacation and is making chapters to stall while he's railing his Nami cosplayer on some beach.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
May 28 2015 18:35 GMT
#21785
On May 29 2015 03:30 Hyperbola wrote:
Oda's on vacation and is making chapters to stall while he's railing his Nami cosplayer on some beach.

If this were the real reason I'd be totally okay with that. Means just have to wait a couple weeks of stalling chapters before return to the godlike quality we're used to.

I think a large part of why I'm disappointed right now is because the bar has been set so damn high for One Piece... I mean for regular other manga this chapter was still good and arc overall is great. It's just I have a much, much, much higher expectation when it comes to Oda and One Piece. For One Piece standards this arc is starting to fall off simply due to dragging on now imo.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 28 2015 19:14 GMT
#21786
so much funny whining in this thread

this is perfectly fine; it's just like the walls of marine ford

oh wow even whitebeard and all his allies couldn't break through that?! oda such a bad writer

rofl
maru lover forever
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 28 2015 19:36 GMT
#21787
okay.... why not just have sabo beat mingo's ass and save everyone, he's already weakened as it is.
cmon...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 28 2015 19:58 GMT
#21788
On May 29 2015 04:14 Incognoto wrote:
so much funny whining in this thread

this is perfectly fine; it's just like the walls of marine ford

oh wow even whitebeard and all his allies couldn't break through that?! oda such a bad writer

rofl

whitebeard and his allies did break through it, and the walls werent killing everyone there by themselves
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 28 2015 20:24 GMT
#21789
On May 29 2015 04:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:14 Incognoto wrote:
so much funny whining in this thread

this is perfectly fine; it's just like the walls of marine ford

oh wow even whitebeard and all his allies couldn't break through that?! oda such a bad writer

rofl

whitebeard and his allies did break through it, and the walls werent killing everyone there by themselves


they didn't

it was oarz junior which prevented one of the wall segments from going up
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 28 2015 20:36 GMT
#21790
On May 29 2015 05:24 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:14 Incognoto wrote:
so much funny whining in this thread

this is perfectly fine; it's just like the walls of marine ford

oh wow even whitebeard and all his allies couldn't break through that?! oda such a bad writer

rofl

whitebeard and his allies did break through it, and the walls werent killing everyone there by themselves


they didn't

it was oarz junior which prevented one of the wall segments from going up

ya then they went through it
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
May 28 2015 20:55 GMT
#21791
On May 29 2015 04:36 evanthebouncy! wrote:
okay.... why not just have sabo beat mingo's ass and save everyone, he's already weakened as it is.
cmon...

I'd assume Burgess is quite a handful.
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 28 2015 20:56 GMT
#21792
On May 29 2015 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I think a large part of why I'm disappointed right now is because the bar has been set so damn high for One Piece... I mean for regular other manga this chapter was still good and arc overall is great. It's just I have a much, much, much higher expectation when it comes to Oda and One Piece. For One Piece standards this arc is starting to fall off simply due to dragging on now imo.

To be honest, I think we put one piece on a pedestal that it doesn't deserve. Its really fun and I enjoy it, and I like the characters, but honestly, when you look back at one piece its really not as good as I thought it was (still good though!)

I guess over time it just gets hard to keep all of your characters unique and interesting. I mean, who remembers when Chopper last used brain point? That was like -his thing- he was super smart, thats why he's a doctor, now he's just a fluffy monster.

What was going on with Zoro splitting into three people? we haven't seen that since. All these questions about the birdcage.

I think one piece is probably the best shonen after maybe hunter hunter? But it -is- still a shonen. Perhaps a lot of the problems people seem to have with one piece every single arc is that they actually have too high expectations for what is essentially a light hearted bit of fun?
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 28 2015 21:19 GMT
#21793
On May 29 2015 05:56 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I think a large part of why I'm disappointed right now is because the bar has been set so damn high for One Piece... I mean for regular other manga this chapter was still good and arc overall is great. It's just I have a much, much, much higher expectation when it comes to Oda and One Piece. For One Piece standards this arc is starting to fall off simply due to dragging on now imo.

To be honest, I think we put one piece on a pedestal that it doesn't deserve. Its really fun and I enjoy it, and I like the characters, but honestly, when you look back at one piece its really not as good as I thought it was (still good though!)

I guess over time it just gets hard to keep all of your characters unique and interesting. I mean, who remembers when Chopper last used brain point? That was like -his thing- he was super smart, thats why he's a doctor, now he's just a fluffy monster.

What was going on with Zoro splitting into three people? we haven't seen that since. All these questions about the birdcage.

I think one piece is probably the best shonen after maybe hunter hunter? But it -is- still a shonen. Perhaps a lot of the problems people seem to have with one piece every single arc is that they actually have too high expectations for what is essentially a light hearted bit of fun?

brain point thing was stupid anyway and zoro always has a new special sword technique to bring out

until this arc youd be hard pressed to find people actually having a reason to complain, the main thing about OP is its never bad, its just been solid the whole time maybe not always great but its hard the basics down pat so it always had that so noone could really complain

but then dressrossa happened...

and i dont see how hunterxhunter is possibly supposed to be best shonen
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2536 Posts
May 28 2015 21:44 GMT
#21794
These past couple chapters:
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 28 2015 21:50 GMT
#21795
I am the only one thinking : "WTF with those boobs ?!"

http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/788/11

They're soooo great !!
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 22:35:54
May 28 2015 22:27 GMT
#21796
On May 29 2015 06:19 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 05:56 Raneth wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I think a large part of why I'm disappointed right now is because the bar has been set so damn high for One Piece... I mean for regular other manga this chapter was still good and arc overall is great. It's just I have a much, much, much higher expectation when it comes to Oda and One Piece. For One Piece standards this arc is starting to fall off simply due to dragging on now imo.

To be honest, I think we put one piece on a pedestal that it doesn't deserve. Its really fun and I enjoy it, and I like the characters, but honestly, when you look back at one piece its really not as good as I thought it was (still good though!)

I guess over time it just gets hard to keep all of your characters unique and interesting. I mean, who remembers when Chopper last used brain point? That was like -his thing- he was super smart, thats why he's a doctor, now he's just a fluffy monster.

What was going on with Zoro splitting into three people? we haven't seen that since. All these questions about the birdcage.

I think one piece is probably the best shonen after maybe hunter hunter? But it -is- still a shonen. Perhaps a lot of the problems people seem to have with one piece every single arc is that they actually have too high expectations for what is essentially a light hearted bit of fun?

brain point thing was stupid anyway and zoro always has a new special sword technique to bring out

until this arc youd be hard pressed to find people actually having a reason to complain, the main thing about OP is its never bad, its just been solid the whole time maybe not always great but its hard the basics down pat so it always had that so noone could really complain

but then dressrossa happened...

and i dont see how hunterxhunter is possibly supposed to be best shonen

This doesn't need to be a conversation about who thinks what is the best shonen ever, which will go in circles and never reach an answer!

Brain point wasnt stupid, and if it was, thats something to complain about surely? :S Quite contradictory! Like I said, I think one piece is good fun, in fact, I just listed it as probably the second best shonen! So yes, I agree, it has lots of positive aspects! (which I thought I had put across fairly clearly) But I do think there is a tendency for its fans (myself included until re-watching it recently) to rate it higher in terms of story writing than it deserves.

For example, I remember thinking that one of the things that separated one piece from something like say, naruto, was the consistency, and that the story of one piece was consistent, but re-watching, that's not really true. I mean, its still better than Naruto! But in my mind, I had convinced myself that one piece was perfect. Which it simply is not!

I dont think this arc is dramatically better or worse than any previous arc, i'm quite enjoying it! I was merely commenting that the "I only think this is bad because I expect better from Oda, not because its really bad" line of thought is quite common, and in my opinion, largely based on a gross over estimation of Oda in the first place. Again, im not saying he is bad compared to his peers, once again, I rated him in my top two shonen author's. I just think because One Piece is so long, people tend to get rose tinted goggles with it! I know I did! If you dont, I guess my comment wasn't aimed at you?

EDIT: Hyperbola, that thing makes me want to take a gun to my head. Why have you inflicted this upon me? What did I do to you? What could I have possibly done to deserve "loadingu"
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 22:42:47
May 28 2015 22:39 GMT
#21797
On May 29 2015 06:19 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 05:56 Raneth wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I think a large part of why I'm disappointed right now is because the bar has been set so damn high for One Piece... I mean for regular other manga this chapter was still good and arc overall is great. It's just I have a much, much, much higher expectation when it comes to Oda and One Piece. For One Piece standards this arc is starting to fall off simply due to dragging on now imo.

To be honest, I think we put one piece on a pedestal that it doesn't deserve. Its really fun and I enjoy it, and I like the characters, but honestly, when you look back at one piece its really not as good as I thought it was (still good though!)

I guess over time it just gets hard to keep all of your characters unique and interesting. I mean, who remembers when Chopper last used brain point? That was like -his thing- he was super smart, thats why he's a doctor, now he's just a fluffy monster.

What was going on with Zoro splitting into three people? we haven't seen that since. All these questions about the birdcage.

I think one piece is probably the best shonen after maybe hunter hunter? But it -is- still a shonen. Perhaps a lot of the problems people seem to have with one piece every single arc is that they actually have too high expectations for what is essentially a light hearted bit of fun?

brain point thing was stupid anyway and zoro always has a new special sword technique to bring out

until this arc youd be hard pressed to find people actually having a reason to complain, the main thing about OP is its never bad, its just been solid the whole time maybe not always great but its hard the basics down pat so it always had that so noone could really complain

but then dressrossa happened...

and i dont see how hunterxhunter is possibly supposed to be best shonen


I believe there were quite a few people upset with the Thriller Bark arc. But One Piece fans are hardcore fans, so don't mention that One Piece might not be as good as many people make it out to be or you will be burned at the stake.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 23:06:16
May 28 2015 23:05 GMT
#21798
Someone made the point that birdcage is a way for everyone to participate in the end which was needed given how many characters were introduced. If you think about it that way it makes sense from a story perspective, Franky and the Tontatta helped, the gladiators helped, Fujitora, Kin'emon and Zoro helped. Now everyone helped defeat Donflamingo even if they were just pushing birdcage.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 23:14:18
May 28 2015 23:13 GMT
#21799
who said anything about one on one. It's Mingo against the world, and he's winning.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
May 28 2015 23:50 GMT
#21800
On May 29 2015 06:50 SkrollK wrote:
I am the only one thinking : "WTF with those boobs ?!"

http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/788/11

They're soooo great !!

That's the way Oda's been drawing attractive women for ages.
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