|
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.
If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.
If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action. |
On March 20 2015 06:29 MisterKatosS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:16 rei wrote:
pretty sure law is dead, he got shot full of bullets and lost an arm with an open wound that streams out blood, and he lost most of his blood. Don't try to apply real world logic to mangas, the author will show whatever you want to get you hyped then do whatever he want. There is so many ways law is not dead : Mancherry, healing self with ope fruit, separating his vitals body part somewhere safe, shamble to switch body with dofy (that would be fun !)... Law will only die if Oda wants it and I personaly think it is a bit too early for a character this important to die,well lets wait and see !
Zoros taken worse wounds then Law has and lived to tell the tale
|
On March 19 2015 23:31 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:16 rei wrote:
pretty sure law is dead, he got shot full of bullets and lost an arm with an open wound that streams out blood, and he lost most of his blood. The only thing he wants is to screw Mingo over, and the only thing he can do at this point is to give luffy the immortality surgery to insure luffy live long enough to screw Mingo. how can you not see this logic? I can see that logic just fine... But story writing 101, immortal hero makes for a shitty story. Oda would not make such a silly, novice mistake in writing his story. There has to be some kind of tension in the fights even if it's fake, there has to be the possibility of death or the whole rest of the story is going to be boring. How would Luffy's final battle be epic if he was immortal? There is 0% chance of Luffy becoming immortal. Now theoretically.. What if Law made the princess immortal? Her DF power shortens her life when she uses it right? What if she was then immortal?
Sounds like the premise of One-Punch Man. 
|
On March 20 2015 12:29 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 06:29 MisterKatosS wrote:On March 19 2015 23:16 rei wrote:
pretty sure law is dead, he got shot full of bullets and lost an arm with an open wound that streams out blood, and he lost most of his blood. Don't try to apply real world logic to mangas, the author will show whatever you want to get you hyped then do whatever he want. There is so many ways law is not dead : Mancherry, healing self with ope fruit, separating his vitals body part somewhere safe, shamble to switch body with dofy (that would be fun !)... Law will only die if Oda wants it and I personaly think it is a bit too early for a character this important to die,well lets wait and see ! Zoros taken worse wounds then Law has and lived to tell the tale
What about the arm
|
Austria24417 Posts
Zoro lost an eye, that's about 3/4 of an arm loss
|
I'm not uncertain that he "cut" his eye close so that he will master Observation Haki in the same way he cut off the booze to learn Armament Haki.
|
On March 20 2015 16:26 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:31 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On March 19 2015 23:16 rei wrote:
pretty sure law is dead, he got shot full of bullets and lost an arm with an open wound that streams out blood, and he lost most of his blood. The only thing he wants is to screw Mingo over, and the only thing he can do at this point is to give luffy the immortality surgery to insure luffy live long enough to screw Mingo. how can you not see this logic? I can see that logic just fine... But story writing 101, immortal hero makes for a shitty story. Oda would not make such a silly, novice mistake in writing his story. There has to be some kind of tension in the fights even if it's fake, there has to be the possibility of death or the whole rest of the story is going to be boring. How would Luffy's final battle be epic if he was immortal? There is 0% chance of Luffy becoming immortal. Now theoretically.. What if Law made the princess immortal? Her DF power shortens her life when she uses it right? What if she was then immortal? Sounds like the premise of One-Punch Man.
one-punch man is mainly a gag manga though
|
On March 20 2015 23:52 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 16:26 Zambrah wrote:On March 19 2015 23:31 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On March 19 2015 23:16 rei wrote:
pretty sure law is dead, he got shot full of bullets and lost an arm with an open wound that streams out blood, and he lost most of his blood. The only thing he wants is to screw Mingo over, and the only thing he can do at this point is to give luffy the immortality surgery to insure luffy live long enough to screw Mingo. how can you not see this logic? I can see that logic just fine... But story writing 101, immortal hero makes for a shitty story. Oda would not make such a silly, novice mistake in writing his story. There has to be some kind of tension in the fights even if it's fake, there has to be the possibility of death or the whole rest of the story is going to be boring. How would Luffy's final battle be epic if he was immortal? There is 0% chance of Luffy becoming immortal. Now theoretically.. What if Law made the princess immortal? Her DF power shortens her life when she uses it right? What if she was then immortal? Sounds like the premise of One-Punch Man. one-punch man is mainly a gag manga though
But has a lot of good "serious" stuff, and fights. Garou speech vs Seitama was nice. The manga just makes a nice transition from lots of tense situations into silly.
|
Toei makes 15 minutes of poorly done art and animation and roughly 2 or so minutes of quality work. q_q
|
new anime episode was great.
btw I fucking love this sword:
![[image loading]](http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916083242/onepiece/images/thumb/9/95/Shusui_Infobox.png/250px-Shusui_Infobox.png)
Zoro using this sword when he does one-sword techniques since time skip. I wonder if Mihawk knew this sword as well... Hopefully we will learn more about Ryuuma and this sword at Wano kingdom~~
|
Law is obviously not dead. D's die with a smile.
|
On March 20 2015 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Zoro lost an eye, that's about 3/4 of an arm loss
i was gonna say an arm is way more important than 1 eye, at least for zoro (because of santoryuu style) and because of fujitora who is a blind beast and doesn't need eyes at all and can use observation haki. But then you get shanks who's still a beast with 1 arm. But also note that shanks must have gotten weaker since mihawk stopped considering him an equal after shanks lost the arm
|
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 23 2015 09:25 Hyperbola wrote:
Law is obviously not dead. D's die with a smile.
You make a good point!
|
On March 23 2015 11:31 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Zoro lost an eye, that's about 3/4 of an arm loss i was gonna say an arm is way more important than 1 eye, at least for zoro (because of santoryuu style) and because of fujitora who is a blind beast and doesn't need eyes at all and can use observation haki. But then you get shanks who's still a beast with 1 arm. But also note that shanks must have gotten weaker since mihawk stopped considering him an equal after shanks lost the arm
I think the most likely way it works is that Mihawk and Shanks were evenly matched as swordsmen before Shanks lost his arm. However, Shanks is much more powerful with Haki, crew, etc. at least now even if his swordsmanship is somewhat worse. I mean, it'd be a little silly if one of the Shibukai was strong as the Yonkou... we know that the power differences in the Shibukai can be huge, but that'd be a little silly.
|
On March 23 2015 09:25 Hyperbola wrote:
Law is obviously not dead. D's die with a smile.
That's the best point anyone has made to speak against Law's death so far!
|
Austria24417 Posts
Oda did say somewhere that the loss of an arm doesn't cut into Shanks' power. It's probably just Mihawk mocking him.
|
On March 23 2015 19:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oda did say somewhere that the loss of an arm doesn't cut into Shanks' power. It's probably just Mihawk mocking him.
What does that imply how Shanks fight? If he were a fruit user we can imagine it's something that he can control and it matters not if he has lost an arm. For example, how Aokiji lost an leg but it doesn't hinder him a bit since he can control ice made leg. Or the ghost girl from thriller park she could be limp-less quad-amputee and still own ppl with her ghosts.
But shanks is not a fruit user. Losing an arm means he has to relearn his balance in all the fighting moves he used to mastered even if he were once a swordsman on park with Mihawk and only use one hand to wield the sword from the beginning. Saying losing an arm doesn't cut into Shanks' power is bullshit, even if you take into account that after Shanks calibrated his new body's balance issue and able to wield his blade like he used to, it still leave with the fact that he could have used the time he spend to recover for better improvement of his other skills if he didn't lose his arm in the first place.
Which means, Oda is wrong with this chain of logic. ( don't give me that his haki is so dominating that he doesn't need his arm to fight, no, he still have to physically cut ppl with his sword)
However there is another possibility, let's say oda is not wrong, and Shanks didn't lose any power, which means he didn't rely on his physical movement / fighting skills. And it's already known that he isn't a fruit user. Which only leave us with one possibility, his sword has a fruit power that combine with his overwhelming haki makes him a one crew wrecking Machine that dominates the new world.
|
On March 23 2015 14:46 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 11:31 saltywet wrote:On March 20 2015 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Zoro lost an eye, that's about 3/4 of an arm loss i was gonna say an arm is way more important than 1 eye, at least for zoro (because of santoryuu style) and because of fujitora who is a blind beast and doesn't need eyes at all and can use observation haki. But then you get shanks who's still a beast with 1 arm. But also note that shanks must have gotten weaker since mihawk stopped considering him an equal after shanks lost the arm I think the most likely way it works is that Mihawk and Shanks were evenly matched as swordsmen before Shanks lost his arm. However, Shanks is much more powerful with Haki, crew, etc. at least now even if his swordsmanship is somewhat worse. I mean, it'd be a little silly if one of the Shibukai was strong as the Yonkou... we know that the power differences in the Shibukai can be huge, but that'd be a little silly.
Why would it be silly? This isn't Naruto or Dbz where your rank = power level. Doflamingo can exchange blows with both Aokiji and Fujitora while buggy would be destroyed by either of them. They're both Shichibukai so they're both equal in power, right? And the whole point of a Yonku is that they have a lot of allies and soldiers. Mihawk could probably be a yonku if he had the network and leadership ability. One Piece isn't so much about ine ob one fights as it is about teamwork and camaraderie.
|
were all working under the assumption that shanks would be defined as a swordsman when we havent even seen him fight a single time
|
On March 24 2015 02:56 Forikorder wrote:
were all working under the assumption that shanks would be defined as a swordsman when we havent even seen him fight a single time
I'm guessing his clashes with Mihawk, as well as his sabre, points towards him being a swordsman.
|
On March 24 2015 03:02 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:56 Forikorder wrote:
were all working under the assumption that shanks would be defined as a swordsman when we havent even seen him fight a single time I'm guessing his clashes with Mihawk, as well as his sabre, points towards him being a swordsman.
Yea I'm guessing if you have constant duels and clashes with Mihawk you're atleast somewhat of a swordsman.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
