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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 00:43:44
July 26 2012 00:37 GMT
#4441
Byakuya dead?

But..........

KENPACHI DON'T NEED NO BANKAI BITCHES. AWWWWW YEAAAHHHH.

edit: Also, his eye-patch is still on so he's still not even 50% yet :O
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 26 2012 02:20 GMT
#4442
You guys realize its Ichigos job to beat the boss and having Kenpachi there just means hes going to be killed to show just how strong the boss is...
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 26 2012 02:23 GMT
#4443
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange

Ichimaru and Tousen are both bottom tier, i have no idea where you guys are getting that theyre strong.,..
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 26 2012 02:40 GMT
#4444
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange


Go back to that fight, Kenpachi kept getting hit until about two slashes after. If Tousen had started off with decapitation, fight would have been over right away.

On July 26 2012 11:23 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange

Ichimaru and Tousen are both bottom tier, i have no idea where you guys are getting that theyre strong.,..


How are they bottom tier? Ichimaru, even before we knew his powers, was believed to be incredibly strong because of how he dealt with Hitsugaya and how people were unnerved by him. Tousen, well, has one of the most imba bankai of all.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 26 2012 02:50 GMT
#4445
Go back to that fight, Kenpachi kept getting hit until about two slashes after. If Tousen had started off with decapitation, fight would have been over right away.


your free to think whatever you want
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 26 2012 02:51 GMT
#4446
You know, whatever the hell happened to the hogyoku?
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 02:55:01
July 26 2012 02:51 GMT
#4447
On July 26 2012 11:40 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange


Go back to that fight, Kenpachi kept getting hit until about two slashes after. If Tousen had started off with decapitation, fight would have been over right away.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:23 nitram wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange

Ichimaru and Tousen are both bottom tier, i have no idea where you guys are getting that theyre strong.,..


How are they bottom tier? Ichimaru, even before we knew his powers, was believed to be incredibly strong because of how he dealt with Hitsugaya and how people were unnerved by him. Tousen, well, has one of the most imba bankai of all.

Tousens bankai got raped by Kenpachi, without going all out, because Tousen has very weak fighting skills.
As for Ichimaru, who were the strong people that were weirded out by him? Just weak people... He didnt even have much of an advantage over another weak captain...

Your Tousen logic is also flawed because Kenpachi could 1-hit kill Tousen before he got his Bankai up, if he wanted to. If you remember, that fight started off 2v1 with Kenpachi just taking hits for the lawls. Even after beating tousen, Kenpachi wanted to fight the other captain in his Bankai mode.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
July 26 2012 02:54 GMT
#4448
On July 26 2012 11:40 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange


Go back to that fight, Kenpachi kept getting hit until about two slashes after. If Tousen had started off with decapitation, fight would have been over right away.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:23 nitram wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:17 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 06:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:49 Uhnno wrote:
On July 26 2012 02:14 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:27 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:53 Forikorder wrote:
On July 26 2012 00:52 Greggle wrote:
He's really not that important, he is just popular since he got hyped up so much early on. Yeah, he's Rukia's adopted brother, but that's just a good way to make her go super saiyan. He doesn't have that much bearing on the story (though really only like Ichigo and Urahara do...).

He isn't even one of the stronger captains to be honest. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyouraku and Ukitake are the top-tier unless the Vaizard captains are stronger than we know.

Byakuya was hyped as the strongest captain in the SS arc

although last arc he was shown to be piss weak


Yamamoto is pretty solidly confirmed to be the strongest captain by a significant margin, though it may have closed a bit with the loss of his arm.

In the SS arc Yamamoto himself said Kyouraku and Ukitake were pretty much the strongest of all time when he fought them. Hell, Kyouraku took out espada #1 with Shikai. Kubo has hyped up Unohana a ton and Kyouraku and Ukitake are both scared of her, so its pretty widely speculated that she's #2.

I used to be pretty active in the Bleach community when it was still good, when SS was still going on. This was very widely accepted in the community.

Edit: This was the most commonly used ranking:

Godly
1.Yamamoto
2.Aizen

Top
3.Unohana
4.Kyouraku
5.Ukitake

High
6.Ichimaru
7.Byakuya
8.Kenpachi

Mid
9.Soifon
10.Mayuri

Low
11.Tousen
12.Komamura
13.Hitsugaya

i think he was only reffering to when they fought TOGETHER as a combo not that each of them alone is strongest

and i wasnt really counting Yamamoto as a captain since hes the commander general boss guy

why does unahana get the third seed? shes a healer she doesnt actually ever fight


Tousen is easily in the top level, if nothing else because of the most amazing bankai. When he was first introduced, he could take out people with ringing. With his bankai, he could have insta-killed Kenpachi with decapitation.
Mayuri in low tier, while his poison is strong he's got low base stats compared to the other captains, giving him a much harder time.
Hitsugaya raised to mid-tier, could always use that ice flower prison technique.
Ichimaru raised to top tier. His bankai gave even Ichigo, a speed type bankai, a hard time in keeping up, while barely using up any energy.


Kenpachi won vs Tousen. Remember the SS arc? Tousen with only his Bankai isn't all that strong. Even with hollowfication he could beat by a shitty vice-cap.


Kenpachi only won because Kubo wanted him to stay alive. Tousen could have:
Used Bankai>have him lose all his senses>decapitate. Fight done, Tousen has one of the strongest bankai.

Kenpachi could dodge, Kenpachi won because hes alot faster then Tousen

plus if he went for the throat it only leads him open to a double exchange

Ichimaru and Tousen are both bottom tier, i have no idea where you guys are getting that theyre strong.,..


How are they bottom tier? Ichimaru, even before we knew his powers, was believed to be incredibly strong because of how he dealt with Hitsugaya and how people were unnerved by him. Tousen, well, has one of the most imba bankai of all.

Why are people so impressed with Tousen's bankai? Yes it robs you of your senses, but so what? If the person has an AOE attack like Byakuya, he just needs to set up a meat grinder and dare him to come in. Same with the dust cat sword. The fight with Kenpachi went the way it did because Kenpachi has only a sword to swing around, but I'm sure there are plenty of abilities that could go toward countering the simple nullification of senses. Unless I remember correctly and it also robs you of powers, I don't think it's that impressive.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 26 2012 03:06 GMT
#4449
On July 26 2012 02:02 Uhnno wrote:
Talking about the commander Yamato losing his arm, why is his arm still gone and Soi Fon got hers back? Somehow I think Kubo just forgot Soi Fon lost her arm against the 2nd Espada.

She's not important.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
July 26 2012 03:17 GMT
#4450
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 26 2012 04:43 GMT
#4451
On July 26 2012 12:06 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 02:02 Uhnno wrote:
Talking about the commander Yamato losing his arm, why is his arm still gone and Soi Fon got hers back? Somehow I think Kubo just forgot Soi Fon lost her arm against the 2nd Espada.

She's not important.

If I'm not mistaken, he declined to have his arm healed.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18571 Posts
July 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#4452
Imo all captains who have shown their bankais already are weaker ones.

The strong captains still havent shown their bankai
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 26 2012 10:33 GMT
#4453
On July 26 2012 11:51 koreasilver wrote:
You know, whatever the hell happened to the hogyoku?

What happened to that guy who helped them all along through the soul society saga?
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 26 2012 10:43 GMT
#4454
On July 26 2012 12:17 InFdude wrote:
I'm pretty sure Gin could have killed anyone with that bankai of his (anyone without the hyogaku). Also I think Kyoraku said in some episode Toshiro is getting stronger fast and soon he migh be stronger than him (weren't the exact words but it was in the same sense). And I'd put Urahara somewhere really high. He hasn't even resorted to using bankai yet.


He said that maybe in 100 years, Toshiro can become stronger than him.
Not that soon.
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blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 12:14:58
July 26 2012 12:14 GMT
#4455
lol soul society should just release Aizen. his cheapass shikai would still work.
Hello friends
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 26 2012 16:53 GMT
#4456
On July 26 2012 21:14 blankspace wrote:
lol soul society should just release Aizen. his cheapass shikai would still work.

Basically. Unless the strong captains clean everything up.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 26 2012 17:01 GMT
#4457
On July 26 2012 19:33 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:51 koreasilver wrote:
You know, whatever the hell happened to the hogyoku?

What happened to that guy who helped them all along through the soul society saga?


The medical devision kid who had some sick shikai in a filler? It involved I think a needle or something close to it.

No clue wat they did with him, he's probably going to die soon anyway
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
July 26 2012 17:03 GMT
#4458
On July 27 2012 02:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 19:33 nitram wrote:
On July 26 2012 11:51 koreasilver wrote:
You know, whatever the hell happened to the hogyoku?

What happened to that guy who helped them all along through the soul society saga?


The medical devision kid who had some sick shikai in a filler? It involved I think a needle or something close to it.

No clue wat they did with him, he's probably going to die soon anyway


There was that fat guy who used bombs as well
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
July 26 2012 17:09 GMT
#4459
Tousen was touted as being a weak direct fighter, but excelled in more tactical and intelligent battles. He however screwed this up by not just beheading Zaraki when they fought.

Ichimaru was considered pretty beastly early on for wrecking Hitsugaya without even really trying, slaughtering high ranking shinigami as a kid, toying with Ichigo in Karakura town and basically has the ability to one-hit kill with his Bankai.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 17:16:58
July 26 2012 17:13 GMT
#4460
+ Show Spoiler +
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I'm late to the party but WMG here. Ichigo's mom was a hollow.

Yeah, a million people probably predicted that already.
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