On February 25 2019 06:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:There are many salient points to argue that Carol Danvers 2.0 is an unsympathetic hero with few relatable traits who embarks on a permanent power trip with undisguised approval from the writers. Yet that is the comic book version. Any vaguely informed fan knows that Marvel Studios will reinvent, recontextualize, or wipe out facets of a character's personality to make them more palatable on the big screen. Regardless whether comic book fans embrace or reject her, Marvel is betting the general audience will head out in droves to view this version. Tony Stark was made infinitely more charming and roguish during the first movie than his previous comic book incarnations - which lead to the latter being molded to resemble the former. It may be Carol Danvers undergoes the same transmutation and fans end up loving her.
Larson is in the same position "The Rock" was in around 2003 and that Ronda Rousey is in right now. A "Heel Turn" by "The Rock" rejuvenated his movie career. They need to make Brie Larson//Captain Marvel "turn heel"//"go evil" in the next movie. Present her as "good" in the advertising.. and she becomes evil with a vicious unforeseen backstab.
I'd like to see Larson turn up the volume on her feminist rhetoric. "Smash The Patriarchy" ... "Privileged White Men". Non stop catch-phrases. Maybe we can get her to run around on a promo tour and talk about "Rape Culture". Just crank it right up.. The same way "The Rock" went at Canada in 2003. He ripped Canada and Canadians to shreds in 2003.
Then in the next Marvel movie they continue to present Larson/Marvel as "good"/"babyface". 2/3s of the way through the movie she can back stab a 40 year old white male hero... let's say "Captain America". She has to kill him off.
This 2nd movie swerve would be damn cool. I don't think they have the balls to do it. I don't think Larson can play "evil" the way The Rock or Charlize Theron has in the past.
if they do this .. "the haters" will watch the movie 20 times.
"Oscar winner Brie Larson, who will present with her Captain Marvel costar Samuel L. Jackson (who wore a “Sith Happens” tee and beanie), lit up when she noticed her seat placement — “I’m right in front of Serena!!” she announced excitedly — but then spotted her proximity to fellow presenter Chris Evans. “Oh, that’ll be a problem!” she joked. "
Can't get any more middle aged white american man than Captain America!! She's already gunning for him!
there are some youtubers running around counting the # of times she says "i don't hate white dudes"..
Hating Star Wars has become an industry... A lot of those youtubers have nothing to do between Star Wars movies ... so i guess hating Captain Marvel helps keep their subscription #s growing.
I think smart marketers and industry people should find a way to monetize the anger and hate.
Superman 2, 1980. This movie was released in December 1980. However, the majority of the film was shot along with Superman: The Movie in 1976/1977. Marlon Brando ( Jor-El ) got into some kind of royalty dispute with the executive producers and so he was cut from the film. It was kind of spooky when Kal-El screams out "FATHER! ! ! !" in the Fortress of Solitude when you know the background of the acrimony between Brando and the Salkinds. Some careful editing had to be done to permit the producers to remove Richard Donner as the director of the film. The politics behind the movie seem as intriguing as the movie itself. I don't know a whole lot about the official Superman cannon//lore so for me the movie was very good. I have heard from other people who know a lot more about Superman Lore that there were several inconsistencies in the movie.
Most of the special effects hold up very well. Terrence Stamp is very good. I despise Christopher Reeve's "do gooder" left wing politics. However, I must acknowledge he plays the best Clark Kent//Kal-El I've ever seen. The guy is a brilliant actor. Gene Hackman is great. Many great performances in this film.
Clark Kent as a human with no Kryptonian powers has sexual intercourse with Lois Lane in Superman 2. Somehow, in the sequel to Superman2 , entitled, "Superman Returns", Lois Lane ends up with a child who has super powers. I guess he was still producing super sperm
At the box office, this movie made 30% less than than Superman: The Movie and it was not nearly as culturally influential. 30% doesn't seem like a lot, However, in this era inflation was sky-high. So making ~$110 million in 1981 is way worse than making ~$135 million in 1979.
EDIT : Inflation Rate: ummm, holy fucking crap .. inflation in 1979 was 11.5% and 13.5% in 1980. Wow.
The funniest thing about this Captain Marvel 'controversy' is that setting up your marketing deliberately to anger the 'anti-SJW' crowd is now the in thing. The outrage they inevitably stoke about it does all of your marketing and brand awareness for you. hbomberguy just did an excellent video about this. The more people give Captain Marvel a 0/10 on metacritic before its out, the more people will go and see it, and the more money Marvel will make.
Also the bite wind has been taken right out of the outrage. At some point CEOs and marketing people realize that it is a small group of loud people yelling about how the sky is falling. They will review bomb something, but there isn’t much lasting effect beyond that. It also helps that the target of this is a successful, Oscar winning actress who doesn’t really have much to prove.
On February 27 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote: The funniest thing about this Captain Marvel 'controversy' is that setting up your marketing deliberately to anger the 'anti-SJW' crowd is now the in thing. The outrage they inevitably stoke about it does all of your marketing and brand awareness for you. hbomberguy just did an excellent video about this. The more people give Captain Marvel a 0/10 on metacritic before its out, the more people will go and see it, and the more money Marvel will make.
it didn't work with Star Wars movies, toys and video games though. it failed with Battlefield.
i think it can work in the future but they'll need to hire some people from the Floyd Mayweather promo team to pull it off. They know how to monetize heat.
Clark Kent as a human with no Kryptonian powers has sexual intercourse with Lois Lane in Superman 2. Somehow, in the sequel to Superman2 , entitled, "Superman Returns", Lois Lane ends up with a child who has super powers. I guess he was still producing super sperm
The explanation was that he was only stripped from his powers from red sun radiation, and even though in the movie his father tells him it will be forever this is not how red sun radiation affects Superman canonically. Red solar radiation only strips him from his powers temporarily until his cells absorb a certain amount of yellow or blue sun radiation which will give him his powers back. In the comics this is inconsistent, but its usually around a week or two until he gets his powers back, it mostly depends on how intense and prolonged was the exposure.
Kryptonians have a triple helix DNA which is what gives them the ability to store sunlight from yellow or blue stars (blue stars for instance charge him even more) and this is why they have powers. In the comics there isnt a definite answer if human double helix DNA is compatible with Kryptonian triple helix DNA, but Superman Returns went with the idea that they are compatible. Now if you take into account that he was simply de-powered in Superman 2 but retained his Kryptonian biology when he had sex with Lois, then it would make sense his kid in Superman Returns to have powers because he passed on his genes to the kid.
On February 27 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote: The funniest thing about this Captain Marvel 'controversy' is that setting up your marketing deliberately to anger the 'anti-SJW' crowd is now the in thing. The outrage they inevitably stoke about it does all of your marketing and brand awareness for you. hbomberguy just did an excellent video about this. The more people give Captain Marvel a 0/10 on metacritic before its out, the more people will go and see it, and the more money Marvel will make.
it didn't work with Star Wars movies, toys and video games though. it failed with Battlefield.
i think it can work in the future but they'll need to hire some people from the Floyd Mayweather promo team to pull it off. They know how to monetize heat.
Well, it definitely did some work for me. Before Brie Larson started spewing her garbage about more inclusive critic groups at her conferences and speaking how woke CM was I was going to see it as soon as it was out. Right now I'll wait a week or two, check out the reviews and only then decide if I want to see it at all.
So, with this woke campaign instead of going "You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention" it went "You had my curiosity, but now I've lost interest".
On February 27 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote: The funniest thing about this Captain Marvel 'controversy' is that setting up your marketing deliberately to anger the 'anti-SJW' crowd is now the in thing. The outrage they inevitably stoke about it does all of your marketing and brand awareness for you. hbomberguy just did an excellent video about this. The more people give Captain Marvel a 0/10 on metacritic before its out, the more people will go and see it, and the more money Marvel will make.
it didn't work with Star Wars movies, toys and video games though. it failed with Battlefield.
i think it can work in the future but they'll need to hire some people from the Floyd Mayweather promo team to pull it off. They know how to monetize heat.
Well, it definitely did some work for me. Before Brie Larson started spewing her garbage about more inclusive critic groups at her conferences and speaking how woke CM was I was going to see it as soon as it was out. Right now I'll wait a week or two, check out the reviews and only then decide if I want to see it at all.
So, with this woke campaign instead of going "You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention" it went "You had my curiosity, but now I've lost interest".
I wonder if we can get the stats on how many people have looked at this thread over the last few pages. All they will have seen is lots of talk about Captain Marvel. Just like the people who were burning Nike shoes and managed to raise Nike's company valuation by 6 billion dollars. All publicity is good publicity, and you guys, in some small way, are providing Marvel's publicity for them. Good job
I looked up Brie Larson's quote about white men expecting some actual decent racism and was really let down. You guys are overreacting and it makes you look crazy.
in my hunt for halfasssed sci fi flicks i came across this atlas shrugged trilogie.
worst thing i have ever seen. it was as if whoever wrote the script for that shit movie was hell bent on declaring everyone who doesn´t own atleast a couple of multinational industries a leeching communist threat to world peace and prosperity. so i was sitting there, letting the bs and the arrogance sink in, stunned by disbelieve. And then part 2 came around and just blew my mind. after part 3 i couldnt stop giggleing anymore.
On March 02 2019 09:56 alpenrahm wrote: in my hunt for halfasssed sci fi flicks i came across this atlas shrugged trilogie.
worst thing i have ever seen. it was as if whoever wrote the script for that shit movie was hell bent on declaring everyone who doesn´t own atleast a couple of multinational industries a leeching communist threat to world peace and prosperity. so i was sitting there, letting the bs and the arrogance sink in, stunned by disbelieve. And then part 2 came around and just blew my mind. after part 3 i couldnt stop giggleing anymore.
YAS it wasn't so much that the budget and actors fell off a cliff but the story kept getting weirder and weirder. The whole time they were making the trains the main part of the movie I just lost it. The special steel jewelry shenanigans was so bad I'm shocked anyone agreed to go through with it.
If you want to watch some scifi thats truely utter shit go for LEXX, It'll make you feel like a worse person after you watch it then before you watch it.
The Favourite - really funny, great cast, period detail and surprising secrets. Watched this without getting bored at all. The oscar nominations on all categories are quite deserved.
Bohemian Rhapsody - another fun movie. Well-acted and well-deserved win on the best actor category by Rami Malek for playing Freddie Mercury.
First Man - I find the mission parts more interesting than the family parts in this movie. There are some really tense scenes that demonstrate the risks that the astronauts went through just to win the space race. But this made me think though, what did it really accomplish, to land people on the moon? We're approaching 50 years since the first moon landing and it is still the farthest that humans were able to go, not counting unmanned flights of course.
I'm still gonna watch Captain Marvel despite Brie Larson's controversy which tbh i couldn't really care less (it wasn't like she declared herself a neonazi or pro-childtrafficking or something really insane).
Recently seen Terminal (2018). It was noir-style and the entire thing was kinda confusing at the beginning. It did clear up by the middle and i actually felt intrigued. The culmination of the entire movie was satisfying. I think Margot Robbie really nailed her role here tho .
Like she is quite good with these unhinged crazy female character roles for some reason(like her suicide squad harley quinn despite uhm the movie being really disappointing).
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