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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 19:11:34
April 17 2013 19:08 GMT
#13681
can someone help me clarify?

wildling = people living beyond the wall
white walkers = winter monsters
the others = winter monsters
crow = black cloaks

yes? and are there other names used to describe them?

(i would check wiki but i've made that mistake many times before)
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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 17 2013 19:12 GMT
#13682
On April 18 2013 04:08 jinorazi wrote:
can someone help me clarify?

wildling = people living beyond the wall
white walkers = winter monsters
the others = winter monsters
crow = black cloaks

yes? and are there other names used to describe them?


white walkers = others = that old looking icy dude who was on the horse at the end of S2
wights = an unfortunate homophone = zombies created by white walkers
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#13683
Wildlings are what the Night's Watch calls the people living north of the wall. They simply refer to themselves as "Free Folk".
Crows are what the wildlings call the members of the Night's Watch.

the White Walkers = The Others. just another name for them.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 17 2013 19:32 GMT
#13684
ah yes wights, i thought that was another term for white walkers. so white walkers are the superior guys and wights are the lowly zombies.
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Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 19:37:55
April 17 2013 19:37 GMT
#13685
Right, it's because of the wights that both the wildlings and the Crows (Night's Watch) keep on burning all their dead so that they can't reanimate. Presumably it's the white walkers (Others) that do the reanimating.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 19:55:12
April 17 2013 19:44 GMT
#13686
So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus.

And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet.
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chillpenguin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States90 Posts
April 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#13687
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus.

And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet.


We haven't been told what happened in Winterfell.

Since Robb never authorized the release of Jaime and has even incarcerated his Mother due to her actions, I think we can assume that he gave orders to have him recaptured.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#13688
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus.

And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet.

The show hasn't said exactly what happened at Winterfell. All you know for certain is that:
1. Lord Bolton told Robb that he sent his bastard to liberate Winterfell in season 2. It seemed like they were the ones who had it surrounded and offered to let the other Ironborn go if they turned over Theon.
2. the Ironborn knocked Theon out, Winterfell was put to the torch, and we haven't seen any confirmed Ironborn other than Theon since then. Perhaps they turned Theon over and were let go. Perhaps they burned the castle and escaped thru the secret tunnels Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon and took Theon with them and it was Ironborn who were torturing him. The show hasn't said for sure so any thing more is speculation or book spoilers.
3) Roose Bolton told Robb that his Bastard arrived too late and Winterfell was already burned and everyone there was killed when he arrived and Bran and Rickon were missing. Which either his bastard lied about for some reason, or some one else had Winterfell surrounded when Theon was knocked out and we just assumed it was Bolton's bastard.

Robb sent men out to find Jaime and bring him back, but they haven't given any indications on the show that his orders included cutting off his hand.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
April 17 2013 20:14 GMT
#13689
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet.

If you remember (I think it was in the first episode of S3) Lord Bolton actually said that he has sent his best man after Jaime. They are sporting Lord Bolton's banners so presumably they are acting on Robb's orders (technically on Lord Boltons).
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
April 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#13690
On April 18 2013 05:13 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus.

And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet.

The show hasn't said exactly what happened at Winterfell. All you know for certain is that:
1. Lord Bolton told Robb that he sent his bastard to liberate Winterfell in season 2. It seemed like they were the ones who had it surrounded and offered to let the other Ironborn go if they turned over Theon.
2. the Ironborn knocked Theon out, Winterfell was put to the torch, and we haven't seen any confirmed Ironborn other than Theon since then. Perhaps they turned Theon over and were let go. Perhaps they burned the castle and escaped thru the secret tunnels Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon and took Theon with them and it was Ironborn who were torturing him. The show hasn't said for sure so any thing more is speculation or book spoilers.
3) Roose Bolton told Robb that his Bastard arrived too late and Winterfell was already burned and everyone there was killed when he arrived and Bran and Rickon were missing. Which either his bastard lied about for some reason, or some one else had Winterfell surrounded when Theon was knocked out and we just assumed it was Bolton's bastard.

Robb sent men out to find Jaime and bring him back, but they haven't given any indications on the show that his orders included cutting off his hand.


It might be an important hint that the guy who helped Theon escape said "Winter is coming" after rescueing him from being raped. So he might be one of the Stark's allies. And why would an Iron Islander use the Stark's slogan?
It seems like he also lied to Theon about his sister. She didn't show up after all.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 20:42:17
April 17 2013 20:39 GMT
#13691
Winter is coming is an odd thing for an Ironborn to say, but perhaps he was a northern traitor/spy working for Theon's sister? Why would a Stark Ally help Theon escape after he betrayed them? Maybe he lied about Theon's sister, or maybe they just hadn't gotten to her before Theon was almost recaptured, and they still meet up with her in the future.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:06:24
April 17 2013 20:55 GMT
#13692
i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right?

yes, can i get confirmation on this: did sam ser piggy get the word out about white walkers? if i recall when commander asked "did you fly the ravens?" or something like that in episode 1 i think it was, piggy said no in shame or something if i recall correctly, which means rest of westoros dont know about them.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 20:57:54
April 17 2013 20:56 GMT
#13693
On April 18 2013 04:12 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 04:08 jinorazi wrote:
can someone help me clarify?

wildling = people living beyond the wall
white walkers = winter monsters
the others = winter monsters
crow = black cloaks

yes? and are there other names used to describe them?


white walkers = others = that old looking icy dude who was on the horse at the end of S2
wights = an unfortunate homophone = zombies created by white walkers


This confused me for a while.
When they said "wights" I heard "whites" and thought it was a shorter way of saying white walkers.
I only understood that they meant the blue eyed zombies after I saw it with English subtitles.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:04:45
April 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#13694
I'm pretty sure there are wights which are the beings that raise the dead and then the white walkers which are the dead that are risen.

EDIT: Sorry, it's the other way round.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 17 2013 21:06 GMT
#13695
On April 18 2013 06:03 armada[sb] wrote:
I'm pretty sure there are wights which are the beings that raise the dead and then the white walkers which are the dead that are risen.

It's actually the opposite. White walkers are the creatures that raise the wights. White walker is what was staring at Sam at the end of season 2 with the spear on the dead horse. They are some other race completely. Wights on the other hand are reanimated humans who act alot like zombies.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 17 2013 21:07 GMT
#13696
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right?


Winter is coming doesn't literally refer to the White Walkers.

Literally it just means that summer is over and it's time to prepare for winter (which in GoT-land can last for years, hence the pre-occupation with being ready).

So it's kind of a weird thing to say if he wasn't affiliated with the Starks (unless he was being clever and saying the Stark troops would be coming soon, but I don't think anyone's used their motto to refer to them).
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
April 17 2013 21:07 GMT
#13697
Yeah confused myself lol
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 17 2013 21:13 GMT
#13698
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right?

Well winter is literally coming, and it has nothing to do directly with the White Walkers. They mentioned it in season 1 when Tyrion was at the Wall talking to Commander Mormont. They talked about how summers and winters last for years, sometimes decades, and this summer was coming to an end and the next winter would be particularly long because this summer had lasted so long.

On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
yes, can i get confirmation on this: did sam ser piggy get the word out about white walkers? if i recall when commander asked "did you fly the ravens?" or something like that in episode 1 i think it was, piggy said no in shame or something if i recall correctly, which means rest of westoros dont know about them.

According to what Sam said he did not get off any birds. Which considering he was surrounded by white walkers and some how escaped and was running when Mormont saved him, I have no idea when he was supposed to have a chance to send any ravens. They are retreating back to the wall now to warn everyone. Of course who knows if anyone will believe them, since most people consider White Walkers to be a myth.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:19:39
April 17 2013 21:19 GMT
#13699
On April 18 2013 06:13 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right?

Well winter is literally coming, and it has nothing to do directly with the White Walkers. They mentioned it in season 1 when Tyrion was at the Wall talking to Commander Mormont. They talked about how summers and winters last for years, sometimes decades, and this summer was coming to an end and the next winter would be particularly long because this summer had lasted so long.

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
yes, can i get confirmation on this: did sam ser piggy get the word out about white walkers? if i recall when commander asked "did you fly the ravens?" or something like that in episode 1 i think it was, piggy said no in shame or something if i recall correctly, which means rest of westoros dont know about them.

According to what Sam said he did not get off any birds. Which considering he was surrounded by white walkers and some how escaped and was running when Mormont saved him, I have no idea when he was supposed to have a chance to send any ravens. They are retreating back to the wall now to warn everyone. Of course who knows if anyone will believe them, since most people consider White Walkers to be a myth.


another question, there was a battle before sam met with mormont? (though show didnt show it, it seemed like it)

when the warg with mance said he saw dead crows, and when they arrived at the scene there were dead horses in a spiral formation and no dead bodies. i assume this is where the battle took place between mormont and "the others" before mormont met up with sam.

maybe i'm confusing myself and should rewatch the first 3 episodes lol
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Spykiller
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway87 Posts
April 17 2013 21:30 GMT
#13700
Just a fun thing; Animal refrences. Help me fill this out

Starks: Wolf
Baratheons: Stag
Lannisters: Lion
Littlefinger: Mockingbird
Sansa: Dove
Cat: Cat(?)
Thargarians: Dragon
The Hound: a hound(lol)
Sam: a Pig(?)
Tyrells: Roses(?)
Nights Watch: Crows

Help me out guys
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