EPTwildling = people living beyond the wall
white walkers = winter monsters
the others = winter monsters
crow = black cloaks
yes? and are there other names used to describe them?
(i would check wiki but i've made that mistake many times before)
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
wildling = people living beyond the wall white walkers = winter monsters the others = winter monsters crow = black cloaks yes? and are there other names used to describe them? (i would check wiki but i've made that mistake many times before) | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:08 jinorazi wrote: can someone help me clarify? wildling = people living beyond the wall white walkers = winter monsters the others = winter monsters crow = black cloaks yes? and are there other names used to describe them? white walkers = others = that old looking icy dude who was on the horse at the end of S2 wights = an unfortunate homophone = zombies created by white walkers | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Crows are what the wildlings call the members of the Night's Watch. the White Walkers = The Others. just another name for them. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet. | ||
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chillpenguin
United States90 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus. And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet. We haven't been told what happened in Winterfell. Since Robb never authorized the release of Jaime and has even incarcerated his Mother due to her actions, I think we can assume that he gave orders to have him recaptured. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So what I don't understand is what's going on in Winterfell right now. It's been a while since Season 2, could someone explain what happened at the end there and why Theon went from occupying the place to being Diagonal Jesus. And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet. The show hasn't said exactly what happened at Winterfell. All you know for certain is that: 1. Lord Bolton told Robb that he sent his bastard to liberate Winterfell in season 2. It seemed like they were the ones who had it surrounded and offered to let the other Ironborn go if they turned over Theon. 2. the Ironborn knocked Theon out, Winterfell was put to the torch, and we haven't seen any confirmed Ironborn other than Theon since then. Perhaps they turned Theon over and were let go. Perhaps they burned the castle and escaped thru the secret tunnels Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon and took Theon with them and it was Ironborn who were torturing him. The show hasn't said for sure so any thing more is speculation or book spoilers. 3) Roose Bolton told Robb that his Bastard arrived too late and Winterfell was already burned and everyone there was killed when he arrived and Bran and Rickon were missing. Which either his bastard lied about for some reason, or some one else had Winterfell surrounded when Theon was knocked out and we just assumed it was Bolton's bastard. Robb sent men out to find Jaime and bring him back, but they haven't given any indications on the show that his orders included cutting off his hand. | ||
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revoN
Japan804 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: And were the men who captured Jaime and Brienne doing so on Robb's actual orders? Or are we not supposed to know that yet. If you remember (I think it was in the first episode of S3) Lord Bolton actually said that he has sent his best man after Jaime. They are sporting Lord Bolton's banners so presumably they are acting on Robb's orders (technically on Lord Boltons). | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On April 18 2013 05:13 karazax wrote: The show hasn't said exactly what happened at Winterfell. All you know for certain is that: 1. Lord Bolton told Robb that he sent his bastard to liberate Winterfell in season 2. It seemed like they were the ones who had it surrounded and offered to let the other Ironborn go if they turned over Theon. 2. the Ironborn knocked Theon out, Winterfell was put to the torch, and we haven't seen any confirmed Ironborn other than Theon since then. Perhaps they turned Theon over and were let go. Perhaps they burned the castle and escaped thru the secret tunnels Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon and took Theon with them and it was Ironborn who were torturing him. The show hasn't said for sure so any thing more is speculation or book spoilers. 3) Roose Bolton told Robb that his Bastard arrived too late and Winterfell was already burned and everyone there was killed when he arrived and Bran and Rickon were missing. Which either his bastard lied about for some reason, or some one else had Winterfell surrounded when Theon was knocked out and we just assumed it was Bolton's bastard. Robb sent men out to find Jaime and bring him back, but they haven't given any indications on the show that his orders included cutting off his hand. It might be an important hint that the guy who helped Theon escape said "Winter is coming" after rescueing him from being raped. So he might be one of the Stark's allies. And why would an Iron Islander use the Stark's slogan? It seems like he also lied to Theon about his sister. She didn't show up after all. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
yes, can i get confirmation on this: did sam ser piggy get the word out about white walkers? if i recall when commander asked "did you fly the ravens?" or something like that in episode 1 i think it was, piggy said no in shame or something if i recall correctly, which means rest of westoros dont know about them. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:12 scudst0rm wrote: white walkers = others = that old looking icy dude who was on the horse at the end of S2 wights = an unfortunate homophone = zombies created by white walkers This confused me for a while. When they said "wights" I heard "whites" and thought it was a shorter way of saying white walkers. I only understood that they meant the blue eyed zombies after I saw it with English subtitles. | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
EDIT: Sorry, it's the other way round. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 18 2013 06:03 armada[sb] wrote: I'm pretty sure there are wights which are the beings that raise the dead and then the white walkers which are the dead that are risen. It's actually the opposite. White walkers are the creatures that raise the wights. White walker is what was staring at Sam at the end of season 2 with the spear on the dead horse. They are some other race completely. Wights on the other hand are reanimated humans who act alot like zombies. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote: i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right? Winter is coming doesn't literally refer to the White Walkers. Literally it just means that summer is over and it's time to prepare for winter (which in GoT-land can last for years, hence the pre-occupation with being ready). So it's kind of a weird thing to say if he wasn't affiliated with the Starks (unless he was being clever and saying the Stark troops would be coming soon, but I don't think anyone's used their motto to refer to them). | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote: i dont think he said it as a slogan, i think he meant it literally...so that begs the question, how did he know? from what i know ser piggy didnt get the word out, right? Well winter is literally coming, and it has nothing to do directly with the White Walkers. They mentioned it in season 1 when Tyrion was at the Wall talking to Commander Mormont. They talked about how summers and winters last for years, sometimes decades, and this summer was coming to an end and the next winter would be particularly long because this summer had lasted so long. On April 18 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote: yes, can i get confirmation on this: did sam ser piggy get the word out about white walkers? if i recall when commander asked "did you fly the ravens?" or something like that in episode 1 i think it was, piggy said no in shame or something if i recall correctly, which means rest of westoros dont know about them. According to what Sam said he did not get off any birds. Which considering he was surrounded by white walkers and some how escaped and was running when Mormont saved him, I have no idea when he was supposed to have a chance to send any ravens. They are retreating back to the wall now to warn everyone. Of course who knows if anyone will believe them, since most people consider White Walkers to be a myth. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On April 18 2013 06:13 karazax wrote: Well winter is literally coming, and it has nothing to do directly with the White Walkers. They mentioned it in season 1 when Tyrion was at the Wall talking to Commander Mormont. They talked about how summers and winters last for years, sometimes decades, and this summer was coming to an end and the next winter would be particularly long because this summer had lasted so long. According to what Sam said he did not get off any birds. Which considering he was surrounded by white walkers and some how escaped and was running when Mormont saved him, I have no idea when he was supposed to have a chance to send any ravens. They are retreating back to the wall now to warn everyone. Of course who knows if anyone will believe them, since most people consider White Walkers to be a myth. another question, there was a battle before sam met with mormont? (though show didnt show it, it seemed like it) when the warg with mance said he saw dead crows, and when they arrived at the scene there were dead horses in a spiral formation and no dead bodies. i assume this is where the battle took place between mormont and "the others" before mormont met up with sam. maybe i'm confusing myself and should rewatch the first 3 episodes lol | ||
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Spykiller
Norway87 Posts
Starks: Wolf Baratheons: Stag Lannisters: Lion Littlefinger: Mockingbird Sansa: Dove Cat: Cat(?) Thargarians: Dragon The Hound: a hound(lol) Sam: a Pig(?) Tyrells: Roses(?) Nights Watch: Crows Help me out guys  | ||
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