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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 14 2011 11:47 GMT
#4821
Boardwalk Empire is fucking BOSS. Can't wait for the next season of that.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 14 2011 11:48 GMT
#4822
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 14 2011 11:50 GMT
#4823
great episode
time for the next season!
(HBO's got 3-4 seasons for sure)
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
June 14 2011 12:03 GMT
#4824
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17692 Posts
June 14 2011 12:59 GMT
#4825
On June 14 2011 21:03 Maginor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.


Yeah, but he also said it was just a scratch and not worth mentioning. The dude is a freaking war veteran with some scars already on him. You really think he doesn't know when a wound he suffered is serious or not? I bet he saw a gazillion wounds being inflicted on people during his reign, it might be a fair assumption that he's experienced enough to recognize when a wound demands treatment and when it doesn't. Also, you could always say that this wound was 'self inflicted' too.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 14 2011 13:03 GMT
#4826
On June 14 2011 21:59 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 21:03 Maginor wrote:
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.


Yeah, but he also said it was just a scratch and not worth mentioning. The dude is a freaking war veteran with some scars already on him. You really think he doesn't know when a wound he suffered is serious or not? I bet he saw a gazillion wounds being inflicted on people during his reign, it might be a fair assumption that he's experienced enough to recognize when a wound demands treatment and when it doesn't. Also, you could always say that this wound was 'self inflicted' too.

You're right, he could probably see bacteria. He looked at his wound with miscroscope vision, examined all the nearby bacteria, and knew he could handle it. However, in the middle of the night, while he was sleeping, a fly that had just landed in some 5 day old rotting corpse decided to land in his wound, and dropped some nice fresh cultures in it. Drogo was a little busy the next morning, so he couldn't examine his wound with a microscope, and so missed those bacteria. So now he pays the price for his negligence.

-_-
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
June 14 2011 13:29 GMT
#4827
On June 14 2011 17:10 Greentellon wrote:
Infections are caused by bacteria and other living organisms. If you have good resistance to your local ones then you'll be ok. Also remember, good diet increases body resistance and in medieval times people had very poor diets: average person lived only ~30 (?) years or so.

The average person lived '30 years' due to infant mortality and rampant death before the age of 5. Take that out of the data and people lived much longer.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
June 14 2011 13:41 GMT
#4828
Cant wait for the next episode, ive passed the TV show with the books now and knowing what happens i cant imagine the final episode not being absolutely epic.
Im well into the second book now and i cant tell you the confusion a lot of people have in this thread about Danys implied resistance to fire will be clarified in the future.
Cant go into details without spoilers but it does get cleared up.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:26:13
June 14 2011 14:25 GMT
#4829
I was pretty impressed with the way they handled the battles. Sure, it deviated a bit from the books the way Tyrion got injured, but I didn't find it a major deal. The solution of showing both the battle for the green fork and the battle of the whispering woods from the perspective of someone who didn't participate worked well. The aftermath for Tyrion was believable, as was Catelyn's anxiety while waiting for Robb to return.
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
June 14 2011 14:41 GMT
#4830
On June 14 2011 18:48 snarl wrote:
My main gripe with Ned's death is that he is the most developed character in the season, so now that he's dead who are we supposed to "care" for next season? Tyrion and Dany+Drogo are the only ones that are also developed at this point so there's going to be a lack of a protagonist, in particular a Stark one. People keep saying the children are important but at this point I don't care about Sansa who is just a foil for Arya, Bran who basically served his purpose in the first episode, and Rob who is only just being developed the last episode or two. Jon and Arya are interesting but Jon is stuck on the damn wall and Arya is isolated in Kings Landing.

Catelyn is also starting to become irrelevant since Ned is dead, Littlefinger won't be pursuing her anytime soon, her "detective" work+ imprisonment of Tyrion is over, and Rob will be leading the Stark house. She also pales when compared to Dany/Cersei because those two both have great power and exercise it for personal gain while she can't even convince her sister to help her.

Hopefully the finale changes things up a bit.



Ok, having read the books and having only watched about half of the episodes so far, I'll try to tread lightly so I don't spoil anything.

I think the issue you're having is that you are making assumptions based on the way stories are generally told. You're assuming that Brans usefulness to the story is done, and that Arya and Jon are also in deadend plot lines. Sansa is just a foil for Arya, but obviously she can't continue to be so considering the two are separated (unless they meet up again, but even so I'd think they will get along much better after going through things like their dad dying).

Catelyn isn't exactly helpless. She still is the mother of Robb, who is now head of the Starks, and has at least as much control over Robb that Cersei has over Joffrey. No one is able to convince her sister of anything, so that doesn't mean much.

Plus, what's wrong with Tyrion and Dany as protagonists? They're both awesome!
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
June 14 2011 14:53 GMT
#4831
I think what's funny is when Catelyn is talking about the concessions she had to make to cross the bridge.

Robb's like, "And? ...and?! ...AND?!"
And Catelyn's like, "And...you have to marry one of the daughters."

And in a time of war, Robb asks, with a straight face "hmm... well are they attractive at least?" << bwhahaha.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
June 14 2011 15:18 GMT
#4832
On June 14 2011 23:53 mav451 wrote:
I think what's funny is when Catelyn is talking about the concessions she had to make to cross the bridge.

Robb's like, "And? ...and?! ...AND?!"
And Catelyn's like, "And...you have to marry one of the daughters."

And in a time of war, Robb asks, with a straight face "hmm... well are they attractive at least?" << bwhahaha.


I also like how Theon couldn't keep his face straight.
Joe12
Profile Joined March 2010
183 Posts
June 14 2011 15:27 GMT
#4833
On June 14 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 21:59 Manit0u wrote:
On June 14 2011 21:03 Maginor wrote:
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.


Yeah, but he also said it was just a scratch and not worth mentioning. The dude is a freaking war veteran with some scars already on him. You really think he doesn't know when a wound he suffered is serious or not? I bet he saw a gazillion wounds being inflicted on people during his reign, it might be a fair assumption that he's experienced enough to recognize when a wound demands treatment and when it doesn't. Also, you could always say that this wound was 'self inflicted' too.

You're right, he could probably see bacteria. He looked at his wound with miscroscope vision, examined all the nearby bacteria, and knew he could handle it. However, in the middle of the night, while he was sleeping, a fly that had just landed in some 5 day old rotting corpse decided to land in his wound, and dropped some nice fresh cultures in it. Drogo was a little busy the next morning, so he couldn't examine his wound with a microscope, and so missed those bacteria. So now he pays the price for his negligence.

-_-


Sorry but have you ever seen Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel die from an infection? Thats right, badass people like that don't die from simple infections - they are immune to such nonsense. I consider myself an expert in hollywood movies and I can tell you that this would be a very unrealistic way to die.

raja91
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada28 Posts
June 14 2011 15:40 GMT
#4834
ned being killed threw me out of my chair, and my friend who read the books said " dont get attached to any of the characters" LOL
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
June 14 2011 15:40 GMT
#4835
On June 15 2011 00:27 Joe12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 14 2011 21:59 Manit0u wrote:
On June 14 2011 21:03 Maginor wrote:
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.


Yeah, but he also said it was just a scratch and not worth mentioning. The dude is a freaking war veteran with some scars already on him. You really think he doesn't know when a wound he suffered is serious or not? I bet he saw a gazillion wounds being inflicted on people during his reign, it might be a fair assumption that he's experienced enough to recognize when a wound demands treatment and when it doesn't. Also, you could always say that this wound was 'self inflicted' too.

You're right, he could probably see bacteria. He looked at his wound with miscroscope vision, examined all the nearby bacteria, and knew he could handle it. However, in the middle of the night, while he was sleeping, a fly that had just landed in some 5 day old rotting corpse decided to land in his wound, and dropped some nice fresh cultures in it. Drogo was a little busy the next morning, so he couldn't examine his wound with a microscope, and so missed those bacteria. So now he pays the price for his negligence.

-_-


Sorry but have you ever seen Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel die from an infection? Thats right, badass people like that don't die from simple infections - they are immune to such nonsense. I consider myself an expert in hollywood movies and I can tell you that this would be a very unrealistic way to die.



This isn't a movie.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 14 2011 15:45 GMT
#4836
On June 14 2011 08:28 Lochat wrote:
This thread is giving me brain cancer.

Everyone saw the episode where Drogo got wounded. Everyone saw how insignificant it was.
Everyone saw some healer/witch put a mat of herbs on his wound.
Drogo is suddenly dying from an obviously insignificant wound, that should not pose a risk untended. He is dying from an insignificant wound being tended, however.
Drogo's bodyguard even said he believes the witch was the reason he's dying.

Lets ignore all that. Instead, it's just an unrealistic infection.


how is a wound being infected unrealistic? -.-

people died from things like that back in the days. Things like pneumonia might be a cakewalk today but 100 years ago people dropped like flies to it

The black plague killed 30% of the human population in the 1300's, yet, today all you need is some antibiotics and you're fine.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
June 14 2011 15:55 GMT
#4837
On June 15 2011 00:27 Joe12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 14 2011 21:59 Manit0u wrote:
On June 14 2011 21:03 Maginor wrote:
On June 14 2011 20:48 Sm3agol wrote:
To all you people whining about infections. The were farking deadly in the days of no real medicine. The sword that was used to make the wound had probably barely been cleaned since it was made. it had most likely been used very recently to kill people or animals, and the heat would allow for ridiculous bacteria growth. Plus, I'm sure he didn't bathe, and who knows what random deadly organisms could be sitting on his skin.......doing nothing until suddenly inserted into a nice warm, moist, bloody wound. Infection was a very real threat.

I also don't think the healer is evil. For crying aloud, Drogo's wife just saved her life, and the life of many of her people, and if she treats him and he dies............do you think her life is very safe, lol? In no circumstances that I see would it be in the healers best interest to willfully kill Drogo. That being said....................
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!


I distinctly remember Drogo drying his hand that was bloody from ripping out the other Dothraki's throat over his own chest wound. What a good idea that turned out to be.


Yeah, but he also said it was just a scratch and not worth mentioning. The dude is a freaking war veteran with some scars already on him. You really think he doesn't know when a wound he suffered is serious or not? I bet he saw a gazillion wounds being inflicted on people during his reign, it might be a fair assumption that he's experienced enough to recognize when a wound demands treatment and when it doesn't. Also, you could always say that this wound was 'self inflicted' too.

You're right, he could probably see bacteria. He looked at his wound with miscroscope vision, examined all the nearby bacteria, and knew he could handle it. However, in the middle of the night, while he was sleeping, a fly that had just landed in some 5 day old rotting corpse decided to land in his wound, and dropped some nice fresh cultures in it. Drogo was a little busy the next morning, so he couldn't examine his wound with a microscope, and so missed those bacteria. So now he pays the price for his negligence.

-_-


Sorry but have you ever seen Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel die from an infection? Thats right, badass people like that don't die from simple infections - they are immune to such nonsense. I consider myself an expert in hollywood movies and I can tell you that this would be a very unrealistic way to die.



You're trolling, right? The whole point of the way this series is written is that the world is gritty and realistic and no one is safe.

It simply baffles me that people are whining that the realism is unrealistic. I don't know if people know this, but you can't beat up an infection. Infections don't really care how jacked and badass you are.
Shaithis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 15:56:34
June 14 2011 15:56 GMT
#4838
On June 15 2011 00:45 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 08:28 Lochat wrote:
This thread is giving me brain cancer.

Everyone saw the episode where Drogo got wounded. Everyone saw how insignificant it was.
Everyone saw some healer/witch put a mat of herbs on his wound.
Drogo is suddenly dying from an obviously insignificant wound, that should not pose a risk untended. He is dying from an insignificant wound being tended, however.
Drogo's bodyguard even said he believes the witch was the reason he's dying.

Lets ignore all that. Instead, it's just an unrealistic infection.


how is a wound being infected unrealistic? -.-

people died from things like that back in the days. Things like pneumonia might be a cakewalk today but 100 years ago people dropped like flies to it

The black plague killed 30% of the human population in the 1300's, yet, today all you need is some antibiotics and you're fine.


I'm with the dude that just got pwned by Jorah; why is everyone making the assumption that the "witch" had good intentions towards the leader of the army that just sacked her village, killed the majority of the males (most likely including her husband / sons / etc), and enslaved the rest?
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
June 14 2011 16:39 GMT
#4839
On June 15 2011 00:40 raja91 wrote:
ned being killed threw me out of my chair, and my friend who read the books said " dont get attached to any of the characters" LOL


It is better to have loved and lost than never loved at all. Or something like that.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#4840
On June 15 2011 00:56 Shaithis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 00:45 Pulimuli wrote:
On June 14 2011 08:28 Lochat wrote:
This thread is giving me brain cancer.

Everyone saw the episode where Drogo got wounded. Everyone saw how insignificant it was.
Everyone saw some healer/witch put a mat of herbs on his wound.
Drogo is suddenly dying from an obviously insignificant wound, that should not pose a risk untended. He is dying from an insignificant wound being tended, however.
Drogo's bodyguard even said he believes the witch was the reason he's dying.

Lets ignore all that. Instead, it's just an unrealistic infection.


how is a wound being infected unrealistic? -.-

people died from things like that back in the days. Things like pneumonia might be a cakewalk today but 100 years ago people dropped like flies to it

The black plague killed 30% of the human population in the 1300's, yet, today all you need is some antibiotics and you're fine.


I'm with the dude that just got pwned by Jorah; why is everyone making the assumption that the "witch" had good intentions towards the leader of the army that just sacked her village, killed the majority of the males (most likely including her husband / sons / etc), and enslaved the rest?


Yeah, Dany has been coming off as a kind of an idiot to me for a good while, I dunno, I'm not too fond of the character so far.
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