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plexx
United States41 Posts
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plexx
United States41 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:01 Sentient wrote: I don't mind not seeing the battle. 20000 men vs 2000 would just be a mindless slaughter and not all that interesting, though I guess it would be nice to see Bronn's abilities. The last scene was done extraordinarily well. there was a battle between Robb's Army and Jaime's army as well... not just the 2000 vs 20k | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:03 malady wrote: if the civil war taught me anything GO THE NORTH! lol but on a more serious note i was surprised how much stuff was convered in this epeisode besides the lackluster battle scenes i really enjoyed it You really shouldn't mention the civil war that way because if anything it is the opposite. Anyways, this episode just blew my mind. So many cool things. But the ending.. wow. I just really hate Joffrey now possibly more than any other villain I've ever hated in a fictional series. It was so powerful and symbolic though with the talk Jon had about honor. It's like at the end Ned knew he sold out his honor and deserved to die when he looked down because it meant everything to him | ||
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Dark.Carnival
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Drowsy
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usa11220
United States38 Posts
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote: You really shouldn't mention the civil war that way because if anything it is the opposite. I'm really trying to figure out your logic on that. I am genuinely curious as to why you say that. Are you saying that the South (Joffrey and the Lannisters) in the series is the good side and the North (Robb and the Starks) in the series is the bad side? Because, in my view, I look at the Starks as the "heroes" and the Lannisters as the "villains", with a couple exceptions of course. So I'd be interested to hear your reasoning. Oh, and I have thoughts as to why no battles were shown today, but they are spoilers, so read on if you dare: modedit: don't post spoilers as the note says. Take it to PMs or the other thread | ||
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Radin
United States57 Posts
In the case of Game of Thrones, however, you may consider the rebels the "good guys." | ||
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:22 Radin wrote: In the case of the civil war vs this series both the Stark's and the South were rebelling against their government. In the case of Game of Thrones, however, you may consider the rebels the "good guys." Ah thanks for that. However the Lannisters are not supposed to be the government as Joffrey is NOT a Baratheon, and thus is a false king. The "true" king is Stannis, in terms of the line of succession. But I can see how the Starks are rebels. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:19 Sipher wrote: I'm really trying to figure out your logic on that. I am genuinely curious as to why you say that. Are you saying that the South (Joffrey and the Lannisters) in the series is the good side and the North (Robb and the Starks) in the series is the bad side? Because, in my view, I look at the Starks as the "heroes" and the Lannisters as the "villains", with a couple exceptions of course. So I'd be interested to hear your reasoning. Oh, and I have thoughts as to why no battles were shown today, but they are spoilers, so read on if you dare: modedit: stop quoting spoilers too! I don't want to derail the thread with this argument. I was more or less just disagreeing with his claim that the north were the good guys in the "civil war" and just did it poorly. GoT is obviously much less morally gray in my opinion (in the whole Joffrey vs Stark situation) than the war for southern independence in which neither side was innocent. I definitely see the Starks as the "heroes" and the Lannisters as the "villains" (with a few exceptions). Both the north and south were in the wrong in american history. This is definitely the wrong thread though. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote: It was so powerful and symbolic though with the talk Jon had about honor. It's like at the end Ned knew he sold out his honor and deserved to die when he looked down because it meant everything to him I thought at the end he was just looking his daughter. He glanced over at Sansa, then looked into the crowd for Arya. The final moments and thoughts of a father. | ||
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GDbushido
United States926 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:25 Sipher wrote: What makes Stannis more right than Joffrey? Or Dany, for that matter. Ah thanks for that. However the Lannisters are not supposed to be the government as Joffrey is NOT a Baratheon, and thus is a false king. The "true" king is Stannis, in terms of the line of succession. But I can see how the Starks are rebels. One of the themes of the series is that you can go on about heirs and claims and bullshit like that all you want, but history is written (won) by whoever kills shit best. | ||
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-Frog-
United States514 Posts
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:37 GDbushido wrote: What makes Stannis more right than Joffrey? Or Dany, for that matter. One of the themes of the series is that you can go on about heirs and claims and bullshit like that all you want, but history is written (won) by whoever kills shit best. Hence the "quotes" over the true part there. I am not a nitwit, I do realize what you pointed out. :D That was used as an argument in a debate I was having. I am not saying I believe Stannis is the rightful guy for the throne, etc. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:43 -Frog- wrote: This guy's youtube reviews have been posted a couple times after the episode has aired but this is a particularly hilarious one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOoA1OtcNjM&feature=channel_video_title LOL! This is so fucking true and so funny at the same time. But seriously that's how I felt. | ||
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SkySpy
United States245 Posts
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Xeteh
United States589 Posts
I love watching these episodes with people who haven't read the books. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:43 -Frog- wrote: This guy's youtube reviews have been posted a couple times after the episode has aired but this is a particularly hilarious one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOoA1OtcNjM&feature=channel_video_title That was amazing. Honestly thats how this series is. WTF SCREW THIS SHIT I FUCKING HATE THIS ten minutes later I GOTTA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, AHHHHHHHHHHH | ||
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TheFrankOne
United States667 Posts
On June 13 2011 13:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't want to derail the thread with this argument. I was more or less just disagreeing with his claim that the north were the good guys in the "civil war" and just did it poorly. GoT is obviously much less morally gray in my opinion (in the whole Joffrey vs Stark situation) than the war for southern independence in which neither side was innocent. I definitely see the Starks as the "heroes" and the Lannisters as the "villains" (with a few exceptions). Both the north and south were in the wrong in american history. This is definitely the wrong thread though. The Starks (Ned) threw away the chance to "make peace" with the Lannisters knowing full well that it could bring the country to war and Catelyn arresting Tyrion without the best evidence was not thought through. I know Brann got crippled but that's how many lives lost compared to the Starks and the Lannisters going to war? I see them as "heroes" but they are flawed, I don't think the Starks are without fault in the country going to war. Also I love the way southerners view the civil war, always makes me actually lol. | ||
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Cayn
Germany173 Posts
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