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On June 07 2011 02:03 Dystisis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 01:22 Mordiford wrote:On June 07 2011 01:16 Horst wrote:On June 07 2011 01:07 Carras wrote:On June 07 2011 01:06 Cylon wrote:On June 07 2011 00:59 Carras wrote:EPISODE 8! + Show Spoiler +
mm the episode is great, but i was expecting different things.. i was expecting the kings brother (stanis?) to come forward with his army, and also khal drogo to get started on coming to westeros or sth..
im kinda afraid of greyjoy.. robb should make clear to him what stands if they win.. making him lord again,giving him the iron islands or w/e
tyrion should not have kept his bargain with those tribes.. with lordship in danger, lady arryn weill most probably figth
+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler +kinda weird..so his hostage while his father is alive and a lord ???
if his father dies..what would happen.. really weird.. + Show Spoiler +They kept theon as a hostage after his father failed a rebellion... they did this to ensure his father wouldn't try to rebel again. NOT the thread for this.This hasn't been gone over in detail in the show yet and when I click on spoilers, I expect them to be about the show. For fucks sake... Yes it has been covered in the show, about as superficially as the post you quoted. You must have missed it. Relax.
Alright, perhaps I missed this specifically but to my knowledge the situation with his father and the reasoning for Theon being Ned's ward has not been touched upon, only that his father did launch a failed rebellion and that he is Ned's ward. If anyone could quote me the scenes in the show where this is touched upon specifically that, would be great, but aside from that to my knowledge what has been discussed is extrapolation based on the books.
It's not a huge deal, but this thread has had too many spoilers as it is and I don't want to open up the road to more by making it ambiguous as to what may or may not be posted here.
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They stated that theon was a prisoner, and they stated that his father failed in a rebellion.
How hard is it to connect the dots and realize that he's a hostage to ensure good behavior?
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I don't understand the problem though, nothing is really being spoiled. Hell they tell this background info if you watch the special features on HBO-GO
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On June 07 2011 02:23 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't understand the problem though, nothing is really being spoiled. Hell they tell this background info if you watch the special features on HBO-GO
If this has been in fact been touched upon in supplemental stuff from HBO for the show then I'm sorry about my earlier complaint, however, to my knowledge this has not been revealed to the extent that was posted.
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The fact that Theon's father is alive and is still Lord of the Iron Islands is mentioned in Theon's conversation with Osha. The reason to keep Theon as ward is heavily implied in Tyrion's conversation with Theon.
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Character guide from OP:
http://i.imgur.com/8nxoY.jpg
If you look at the description of Theon, he is called ward/hostage and heir to the Iron Islands. So no spoilers about theon have been revealed, just his situation. Not a big deal at all.
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On June 07 2011 02:54 TheFrankOne wrote:Character guide from OP: http://i.imgur.com/8nxoY.jpgIf you look at the description of Theon, he is called ward/hostage and heir to the Iron Islands. So no spoilers about theon have been revealed, just his situation. Not a big deal at all.
Alright, my bad. I did say it wasn't a big deal, I just wanted to avoid bringing explanations from the book into the thread since we've had pages upon pages of spoilers all the way up to 3rd and 4th book.
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Well I support your vigilance against spoilers if it got that bad, I only started watching the series a couple days ago, just checked out the thread today.
I would say that viewers of this series need to be protected from spoilers above any other series I can think of. Also everyone should just read the books.
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ep8 is "meh" compare to the previous 7.... im guessing ep9 gona be the same... its typical bc they will wana hype up the season final and at this far into the series, they dont need much exciting stuff to gather more attention...
so far as the story go,stuff at being twisted. Sadly i have read the spoiler from "Reddit of Ice and Fire" so no fool me x(...
I think i might wana save ep 9 to watch with ep 10 at the same time... duno though
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On June 07 2011 03:31 NB wrote:
ep8 is "meh" compare to the previous 7.... im guessing ep9 gona be the same... its typical bc they will wana hype up the season final and at this far into the series, they dont need much exciting stuff to gather more attention...
so far as the story go,stuff at being twisted. Sadly i have read the spoiler from "Reddit of Ice and Fire" so no fool me x(...
I think i might wana save ep 9 to watch with ep 10 at the same time... duno though
Whaaaaat?
We had 3 fights, one being against a Zombie. We had a tongue pulled out by a hand and we had a couple of awesome conversations.
And we had a 3 legged giant :D
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he thinks its meh because he spoiled himself without reading the books dont mind him.
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Yeah, I was really excited during that zombie attack. I know there hasn't been a lot of fantasy elements present in the show, and it's exciting when there is a lot more to the world than just crazy throne politics.
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Dude Khal Drogo is such a boss. That fight was AWESOME.
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On June 06 2011 19:39 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 17:48 D10 wrote:On June 04 2011 20:20 zalz wrote:
I do want to make clear that it's his right to write at whatever speed he likes or to stop writing all together. I don't feel entitled to his writing despite looking forward to it and i am not critisising him for the speed in wich he prefers to write. I am simply saying that more time doesn't make for a better book and if you really sit down to write a book you don't need more then a year. As someone who is beggining to write something of equally epic proportions, I respectfully disagree, theres a lot of background work that you need to do before you put things into the paper, if you neglect it, you will be where he was, when you have many lose ends you need to string toghether and altho not impossible, sometimes inspirations comes in weird ways, and I agree, sometimes people take let themselves be taken away by a lack of inspiration and stop writing for months, but I believe for my product to achieve the quality I desire a few years of thinking plots characters, world timelines, and etc... will be necessary So I can just put the end world concept into paper and also add the creativity of the moment. Then theres the edits where more content is added and more plots tweaked. Sometimes I wish as authors, you could launch a 2.0 version of your story, because I can guarantee you, so many authors out there are writing their third books thinking (damn I wish I did XX and Y in the first). There are multiple ways of writing books. You way is one of those. There are plenty of successful writers that do things on the fly without years/months of preparation.
They don't write epic fantasy.
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On June 07 2011 03:31 NB wrote:
ep8 is "meh" compare to the previous 7.... im guessing ep9 gona be the same... its typical bc they will wana hype up the season final and at this far into the series, they dont need much exciting stuff to gather more attention...
so far as the story go,stuff at being twisted. Sadly i have read the spoiler from "Reddit of Ice and Fire" so no fool me x(...
I think i might wana save ep 9 to watch with ep 10 at the same time... duno though
How can you say that? Episode 8 is my favorite so far. Finally we see some action and bold moves. Khalesii and Stark showning who's boss and Tyron deals in cool fashion with the reavers. Sansa behaves realistic in this situation. Finally realising that she is a Stark and has to defend her family in a way. And then even Ser Barristan gets dismissed in a nice scene.
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I don't know if anyone else feels the same way but I thought episode 8 was totally crap compared to the other episodes. The beginning 15 minutes felt so awkward, especially the Syrio scene, which was supposed to be one of the most awesome in the first book. The timelines of the letters reaching Robb and Jon also felt so forced, as did Jon's fight with the wight. The book's description of the wight scene contained so much tension and fear, and the one in the series completely fell flat in comparison.
Anyone else feel this way? Honestly, if this is what GRRM's script writing can produce, I'd much rather the normal writers do the whole series, especially since GRRM is supposedly writing arguablly the most important scene in the next season.
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On June 07 2011 04:23 tyCe wrote:
I don't know if anyone else feels the same way but I thought episode 8 was totally crap compared to the other episodes. The beginning 15 minutes felt so awkward, especially the Syrio scene, which was supposed to be one of the most awesome in the first book. The timelines of the letters reaching Robb and Jon also felt so forced, as did Jon's fight with the wight. The book's description of the wight scene contained so much tension and fear, and the one in the series completely fell flat in comparison.
Anyone else feel this way? Honestly, if this is what GRRM's script writing can produce, I'd much rather the normal writers do the whole series, especially since GRRM is supposedly writing arguablly the most important scene in the next season.
Agreed, I felt some scenes were just off/awkward... Arya's stabbing scene and her training scene in particular. The wight scene as well. Otherwise the rest of the episode was great as usual. Especially the added Drogo fight
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Alright, my bad. I did say it wasn't a big deal, I just wanted to avoid bringing explanations from the book into the thread since we've had pages upon pages of spoilers all the way up to 3rd and 4th book.
If you're going to be that sensitive to any perceived spoilers of the books with regards to the show, I don't think you should be in any show-related discussion. Chill out and enjoy them on your own time if you're going to react like that.
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i thought episode 8 was fucking great. i picked up the book series and have read up to episode 8. to be honest, the only real disappointment i had was the scene was with Othor and Jon. in the book it was a lot more epic i felt and tense/fear... the room was said to be like pitch black... they downplayed it quite a bit. also like someone else said all the letters arriving so quickly seemed forced and they skipped some details but again, you wouldnt know that from not reading the book so overall it was a great episode. khal drogo fight was EPIC
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On June 07 2011 04:23 tyCe wrote:
I don't know if anyone else feels the same way but I thought episode 8 was totally crap compared to the other episodes. The beginning 15 minutes felt so awkward, especially the Syrio scene, which was supposed to be one of the most awesome in the first book. The timelines of the letters reaching Robb and Jon also felt so forced, as did Jon's fight with the wight. The book's description of the wight scene contained so much tension and fear, and the one in the series completely fell flat in comparison.
Anyone else feel this way? Honestly, if this is what GRRM's script writing can produce, I'd much rather the normal writers do the whole series, especially since GRRM is supposedly writing arguablly the most important scene in the next season.
i think your beef lies more with the directing than the script...
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