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dyodyo
Philippines578 Posts
Cant wait for episode 8 | ||
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PoopLord
537 Posts
On June 03 2011 04:50 tyCe wrote: Definitely watch the show first. Suspense and tension is done much more effectively, and more importantly, more succinctly on the screen than on the page. You won't get all the nuances by watching the show, especially on the first viewing, but that's where the beauty of the book comes in. All the subtle descriptions, foreshadowing and hints as to intentions will review itself through the book, and because you have seen the show, you will have some idea of what to look for in the book. Further, by watching the show first, you can read the book more patiently and miss less detail. That's what I'm planning on doing, but after the first book, I don't know if I will just read the rest of the books or not before the show. | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On June 03 2011 06:05 PoopLord wrote: That's what I'm planning on doing, but after the first book, I don't know if I will just read the rest of the books or not before the show. Chances you will be able to withstand your curiosity and the obsession that comes along with reading the books are at best slim to none.  | ||
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Shaithis
United States383 Posts
On June 03 2011 04:50 tyCe wrote: Definitely watch the show first. Suspense and tension is done much more effectively, and more importantly, more succinctly on the screen than on the page. You won't get all the nuances by watching the show, especially on the first viewing, but that's where the beauty of the book comes in. All the subtle descriptions, foreshadowing and hints as to intentions will review itself through the book, and because you have seen the show, you will have some idea of what to look for in the book. Further, by watching the show first, you can read the book more patiently and miss less detail. Read the books. It will be at least 5 years until the show will catch up. Even though I know what is going to happen, I am eagerly anticipating the HBO rendition, and all of the extra scenes that are cropping up; the books did have a few weak points that GRRM seems to be patching up quite nicely on the show. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On June 03 2011 04:50 tyCe wrote: Definitely watch the show first. Suspense and tension is done much more effectively, and more importantly, more succinctly on the screen than on the page. You won't get all the nuances by watching the show, especially on the first viewing, but that's where the beauty of the book comes in. All the subtle descriptions, foreshadowing and hints as to intentions will review itself through the book, and because you have seen the show, you will have some idea of what to look for in the book. Further, by watching the show first, you can read the book more patiently and miss less detail. Ive watched the season and Im about half way through the book. With the exception of a few scenes, the book is literally identical. So im kinda bored through the book because I know what will happen. But that said, I still think the show is better to watch first. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
I can see what all the fuss was about and am LOVING the show... and am considering buying the books. But I'm not sure... is it better to watch the show, and then read the books? Read the books first? After reading the books, it feels like it'll cheapen the effect of the show. The show/movie is never as good as the origional, and I'm afraid that I won't be able to enjoy it as much. Clearly a lot of you are complaining about it; theres 200 pages and theres only seven goddamn episodes out so far. Input go! | ||
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Horst
338 Posts
On June 04 2011 17:54 Crazyeyes wrote: Alright, so after all the fuss about this show I decided I'd check it out. I started two days ago, and have watched two episodes a day. Today I watched 3, bringing me up to date. Tomorrow is the 8th it seems. I can see what all the fuss was about and am LOVING the show... and am considering buying the books. But I'm not sure... is it better to watch the show, and then read the books? Read the books first? After reading the books, it feels like it'll cheapen the effect of the show. The show/movie is never as good as the origional, and I'm afraid that I won't be able to enjoy it as much. Clearly a lot of you are complaining about it; theres 200 pages and theres only seven goddamn episodes out so far. Input go! Like the others have said, wait till this season is over on TV, then read all the books. That would probably maximize enjoyment. I mean its going to be at least another year before season 2 comes out on TV, and by then you'll have forgotten a bunch of details from the books anyway, making it enjoyable again. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
On June 04 2011 17:57 Horst wrote: Like the others have said, wait till this season is over on TV, then read all the books. That would probably maximize enjoyment. I mean its going to be at least another year before season 2 comes out on TV, and by then you'll have forgotten a bunch of details from the books anyway, making it enjoyable again. That makes sense. I didn't actually read through the thread cause its just so goddamn long, and a lot of it is discussion from the books. I was afraid I'd get spoiled. I don't like getting spoiled. ;( So from my understanding, this is the complete set? From what I've gathered, the fifth book will be releasing soon, but has not yet come out... http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1307177970&sr=8-2 Hardcover goes for $130.00 for the set. O_O You'd think some cardboard front/back covers wouldn't cost $100+. | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
That cost-benefit-ratio is the bomb. And yeah, there is 4 books right now, and the fifth coming on july 12th (OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG) | ||
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
Cant wait for next episodes, great show. | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On June 04 2011 18:09 inimenesc wrote: One season is one book? . For now, yes. 10 Episodes for book1, which had around 700 pages. As of now we dont know how much episodes season two will have, but "a clash of kings" already is some hundred pages longer, and at last when it comes to "a storm of swords" hbo has to really think about how to do that stuff. Its double as large as AGoT, so 10 or even 12 episodes just wont do it. We'll see, I guess.. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
I'll probably be ordering that set this weekend. ^__^ | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
The third book might be split into two seasons. If GRRM does not pick up the pace they are going to have to write more seasons if they want to keep the show going. You simply cannot halt a production with this many people and pick it up a few years later, even if you forget all the logistical problems of putting something this big on halt you have the problem of young characters growing older. Even if the show keeps it's popularity i don't think they are gonna be able to do the entire series because GRRM simply does not write fast enough. Then again HBO owns the rights to the book series and GRRM told the writers the ending to the series so they could always go over his head and continue the show and move ahead of the books but i doubt they would do something like that. The damage to their reputation would be enormous. | ||
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Ajunoo
Germany147 Posts
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
On June 04 2011 18:52 zalz wrote: I think the 2nd season will probably be just as long as the first, maybe one or two more eps to cover more pages. The third book might be split into two seasons. If GRRM does not pick up the pace they are going to have to write more seasons if they want to keep the show going. You simply cannot halt a production with this many people and pick it up a few years later, even if you forget all the logistical problems of putting something this big on halt you have the problem of young characters growing older. Even if the show keeps it's popularity i don't think they are gonna be able to do the entire series because GRRM simply does not write fast enough. Then again HBO owns the rights to the book series and GRRM told the writers the ending to the series so they could always go over his head and continue the show and move ahead of the books but i doubt they would do something like that. The damage to their reputation would be enormous. Err, I feel like maybe they'd urge him to pick up his writing pace. Which might not go so well for the quality of them books. | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On June 04 2011 19:17 Crazyeyes wrote: Err, I feel like maybe they'd urge him to pick up his writing pace. Which might not go so well for the quality of them books. Well..they can urge all they want. Martin is not dependent on however much he gets from hbo, nor do they "own" the franchise to be in a position to make demands. I hope martin himself does want to see his story told on television, and realizes that, for that to happen, he needs to close the series in 5-6 years. I mean, he hasnt been that slow for all of the series, just for AffC and ADwD, which had its own kind of problems while writing. Lastly, we wont know till first facts for "The winds of winter" will be released. That can be next year...that can be in four years... One can always hope :/ | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On June 04 2011 19:17 Crazyeyes wrote: Err, I feel like maybe they'd urge him to pick up his writing pace. Which might not go so well for the quality of them books. Well i don't really believe this. Some writers take many years for a single book (often when they are financially stable) but does all that time make it better? I believe that Feast for Crows was the worst of all the 4 books (relative it is still a great book, but worst out of the series). Feast for Crows took him the most time to write out all his books so far. The extra time he used on Feast didn't directly translate into a better book. I think a point can just as easily be made for faster writing because then the story remains fresher in the authors mind and he will be able to create a more cohesive story. So i don't really think that the quality would suffer all that much if he sped up the pace. HBO can't force GRRM to write faster so in the end if he doesn't want to he won't, he has the money to just call it quits at this point. But more time doesn't mean a better book. Even as we speak there are people who have been working on a book for several years and they will in the end never get published whilst Stephen King will be knocking out book #70. Stephen king at one point wrote 3 books in a single year of wich 2 went on to win prizes. Time doesn't translate into quality when it comes to books. I think if GRRM locked himself up in a room and was forced to write out the last few books he could wrap the series up in a few years without any loss in quality. I do want to make clear that it's his right to write at whatever speed he likes or to stop writing all together. I don't feel entitled to his writing despite looking forward to it and i am not critisising him for the speed in wich he prefers to write. I am simply saying that more time doesn't make for a better book and if you really sit down to write a book you don't need more then a year. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
To the above poster, the reason GRRM used so long time to write the two last books is not because he is a slow writer. He proved with the first three books that he can write fast. The reason was that he ran into huge structural problems in how he was going to get the different storylines where they need to be. He had to completely scrap his original plan, which means that he had to figure out a lot of things anew, and many of the storylines had to be rewritten several times. That, combined with the fact that he had to split the 4th book into two volumes, is probably why aFfC is not that strong of a book in itself. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On June 04 2011 22:03 Maginor wrote: Season 2 is almost certainly going to be 10 episodes. The reason we can say that that is what has been announced. In addition, we know the number of the episode GRRM is going to write, and we also know what event in the book that is going to cover. This is pretty ok since book 2 is less than 70 pages longer than book 1, and in season 1, each episode covers about 70 pages. Book 3 is not twice as long as book 1 as many here are saying. It is 1.3-1.4 times as long. That would warrant 3-4 more episodes, however it is not certain that it will be possible to make 14 episodes in one season due to several restrictions put on them. In that case they have said that they will split it into two seasons of 10 episodes each. I hope that won't happen though, because a few of the storylines would be paced very slowly that way. To the above poster, the reason GRRM used so long time to write the two last books is not because he is a slow writer. He proved with the first three books that he can write fast. The reason was that he ran into huge structural problems in how he was going to get the different storylines where they need to be. He had to completely scrap his original plan, which means that he had to figure out a lot of things anew, and many of the storylines had to be rewritten several times. That, combined with the fact that he had to split the 4th book into two volumes, is probably why aFfC is not that strong of a book in itself. How comes he "ran into" porblems regarding the storyline. I canot imagine a writer planning the next book of his series, then half way trough writing it he remembers that he forgot that those caracters aren't suppoused to be there. If you care to explain, please do so, if you have an article, link, if it's spoilers then PM. thx | ||
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