On May 31 2011 11:21 Metallingus wrote: I don't think it's been mentioned yet but...
I am HYPED for the next episode as it was written by GRRM himself. I wonder how his touch will differ from all the other writers (actually, IIRC there's been just two of them) thus far.
I'm even more curious as to the episode that GRRM will write in the next season! That episode is to be one of the defining events in the entire series. GRRM does have a lot of past experience in writing TV scripts, although I must admit I haven't seen any of his work.
My only guess is that there will be far less sexposition, which I can't say is a bad thing.
On May 31 2011 11:21 Metallingus wrote: I don't think it's been mentioned yet but...
I am HYPED for the next episode as it was written by GRRM himself. I wonder how his touch will differ from all the other writers (actually, IIRC there's been just two of them) thus far.
Was it really?
I can't wait either then! I miss his writing... he needs to hurry and finish his books.
The 5th book comes out July 12th. I am hoping success of the HBO series will make these books a bigger priority, he published several other books from other series since Feast for Crows was releaed.
I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
On May 31 2011 13:50 PoopLord wrote: I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
Yes read it, and no the plot is pretty much identical.
They will follow the plot in the books with some removed scenes + new added ones. The main story will be the same, though.
The books have more backstory about the houses, the politics, the mystery/magic, etc etc. You also learn a lot more about WHY people do the things they do in the books. The actors do a good job making you feel the way you're supposed to feel about their characters, but they can't do much more whorehouse exposition to explain motivations without turning this season into a running punchline.
On May 31 2011 08:40 Bagi wrote: Rarely do you see this kind of hatred for a child character. Pretty much everyone I talk to says they hate Joffrey the most, and want to know what happens to him.
Its really a testament to how good Jack Gleeson is in his role. Excellent actor, and he's 13 years old I think? Baller.
I hate him sooo much. And I hate the queen too, thou I liked her in Sarah connor chronicles, she is so damn sour >.<
On May 31 2011 13:50 PoopLord wrote: I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
Then you can imagine why people have so much love-hate relation with GRRM. The time between book 4 and 5 is like, what 5 and a half year? LOL
High point of Episode 7 : Khal Drogo promising the iron throne to his unborn son.
Low point : Jon and Sam swearing their vows. Wow that was some bad acting. Daytime soap bad acting. One of my favorite scenes from the book, completely butchered... the actor playing Jon has the charisma of a sponge. And not even a good sponge like Bob, just a regular boring sponge.
On May 31 2011 13:50 PoopLord wrote: I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
Then you can imagine why people have so much love-hate relation with GRRM. The time between book 4 and 5 is like, what 5 and a half year? LOL
10 years if you consider Feast for crows and Dance of dragons to be a single book.
On May 03 2011 03:44 nybbas wrote: Of course the pacing is fast, what did you expect? People complaining about pacing need to get over themselves, we are not going to get a paragraph by paragraph reinterpretation of the book. The fact that Martin worked so closely with HBO to do this, should be enough to shut you up. I am fairly confident that every concession he had to make for the sake of adaptation, he did only out of necessity.
I read all the books in a month, (thank god I only read them last year and haven't been waiting 6 years for the newest one to come out) and I have no complaints so far, except that I feel cat's character looks too old/unattractive, but thats just being nit picky. The scene with cersei and that little bitch joffrey I thought was great. It shows how much of a fool joffrey is, and cerseis view of everyone else. The book is so rich with the ideas of the characters it shows, they have no other way of conveying these things without adding in scenes like this.
Like someone else said, I think too many people who have read the books are thinking about the characters and how they are in book four, rather than how they are in book 1. To predict how they are going to fail to portray the characters correctly 2 seasons from now, is just ridiculous.
*edit*
It does seem kinda dumb that they portray Joffrey as hating Sansa though. I have faith they will do everything great, and so far I have not been let down (except of course for not seeing enough of ghost )
Writers don't get any say in the adaptations lol. It's completely up to the producers/directors. They only brought GRRM in because they wanted to hear what he had to say. You're talking as if they had to actually consult the author and get his approval for anything. Truth is they didn't. GRRM loses all right to interference the day he sold the rights. That's what selling rights means.
And Joffrey did hate Sansa in the books after he got bit by the dog.
They must have consulted him regarding the how to map the progress of the entire series. Since compromises have to be made and they had to make sure the right plotlines moves appropriately and which things could be cut. Because there must have been things where nobody except GRRM is carrying in his head they have to worry about, namely the the impact on future books. Granted its still long ahead.
On May 03 2011 03:44 nybbas wrote: Of course the pacing is fast, what did you expect? People complaining about pacing need to get over themselves, we are not going to get a paragraph by paragraph reinterpretation of the book. The fact that Martin worked so closely with HBO to do this, should be enough to shut you up. I am fairly confident that every concession he had to make for the sake of adaptation, he did only out of necessity.
I read all the books in a month, (thank god I only read them last year and haven't been waiting 6 years for the newest one to come out) and I have no complaints so far, except that I feel cat's character looks too old/unattractive, but thats just being nit picky. The scene with cersei and that little bitch joffrey I thought was great. It shows how much of a fool joffrey is, and cerseis view of everyone else. The book is so rich with the ideas of the characters it shows, they have no other way of conveying these things without adding in scenes like this.
Like someone else said, I think too many people who have read the books are thinking about the characters and how they are in book four, rather than how they are in book 1. To predict how they are going to fail to portray the characters correctly 2 seasons from now, is just ridiculous.
*edit*
It does seem kinda dumb that they portray Joffrey as hating Sansa though. I have faith they will do everything great, and so far I have not been let down (except of course for not seeing enough of ghost )
Writers don't get any say in the adaptations lol. It's completely up to the producers/directors. They only brought GRRM in because they wanted to hear what he had to say. You're talking as if they had to actually consult the author and get his approval for anything. Truth is they didn't. GRRM loses all right to interference the day he sold the rights. That's what selling rights means.
And Joffrey did hate Sansa in the books after he got bit by the dog.
They must have consulted him regarding the how to map the progress of the entire series. Since compromises have to be made and they had to make sure the right plotlines moves appropriately and which things could be cut. Because there must have been things where nobody except GRRM is carrying in his head they have to worry about, namely the the impact on future books. Granted its still long ahead.
On May 03 2011 19:57 snotboogie wrote: Watching through this episode for the second time and I must agree with the general consensus, Maisie Williams is amazing. Arya's my favourite character in the books, and while I imagined her differently, this actor is bringing her to life in a masterful way.
How would Ned turn the table now? How would he be able to do it? TT
So for now the Lannisters got the upper hand. And it looks like they're gonna eliminate every opponent and seize power in their hands. Gosh. I hope Khal Drogo and his horde invade Westeros soon to wipe out those people. But tywin really looked like a badass. I kind of like him At first I did not understand why the richest man in the realm had to skin the deer by himself... but when I check this thread I got it
On May 31 2011 13:50 PoopLord wrote: I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
You can safely start reading the book, the show is somewhere in the last 150 page span right now. Basically after + Show Spoiler [ep 7] +
Littlefingers betrayal
you should stop reading. I'd imagine it will take you until Sunday night at least, if not you know where to stop.
But you should ABSOLUTELY read the book, it's not different from the show (only in MINOR ways), but there's more depth and description.
On May 31 2011 13:50 PoopLord wrote: I watched all seven episodes this weekend. All I have to say is... WHY DID I START WHEN THE LATEST EPISODE OUT IS THE 7TH???
I'm dying inside.
Also, gonna start reading the books. I have the first one in my possession. Do you think I should read it and ruin the TV show? Is the plot significantly different from the show?
Then you can imagine why people have so much love-hate relation with GRRM. The time between book 4 and 5 is like, what 5 and a half year? LOL
10 years if you consider Feast for crows and Dance of dragons to be a single book.
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