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On May 19 2011 16:21 FubsyGamr wrote:Hey guys, I'm re-watching them from episode 1, moving up to now (already watched once, but I'm just a bit confused at parts). Anyways, I have a question: Episode 1: + Show Spoiler +
A question about the beginning, when 2 of the 3 guards get shredded by the "white walkers." The third one (the one that ran), right before being executed, says "I know I should of gone back to the wall to warn them, but, I saw what I saw..." why didn't he just go back and tell them "Hey guys, two of us just got eaten alive by wolf-men, can I come back inside?" What's the point of deserting? Also, if he did so, how did he get through the wall, to be able to desert?
well he was scared. After seeing what lives north of the wall he didnt want to be there anymore. In the books it's never really described how he made it south but it is often said that the wall is unguarded in most of its parts and that you can even climb above it if you are good enough.
The most reasonable thing how he got south though is that he just went back to castle black and ran from there
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On May 19 2011 13:19 Daliniues wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 12:02 Sanctimonius wrote:
Artistic license, maybe? So!
How about Tyrion doing pretty much the only heroic thing in the series so far by saving Catelyn instead of trying to escape when he had the chance? Also Catelyn's sister is pretty much as batshit crazy as I expected. She needs to be crazier. About 20% more crazy Edit: Her son also needs to be more crazy.
Am I the only one who saw this post and thought: "The dress needs to be cooler. About 20% cooler."?
I am ruined.
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So the next week after the double episodes will be a re-run ?
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Really enjoying this. I only just finished the first book and its awesome seeing it come to life. They do it pretty well considering how much they have to get in. Book is far better tho, but i have read many books wishing to see it come to life on film and this is awesome. Although my girlfriend doesnt understand some of whats going on as she hasnt read the book, i hope the series doesnt suffer from the masses who havent read it needing extra dumbing down.
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On May 19 2011 11:33 Metallingus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 11:28 GwSC wrote:On May 19 2011 04:03 lixlix wrote:
part of the reason for Loras' physique in the series being so undeveloped is probably because in the books hes described as being "slender as a reed"and "Out of his armor, Ser Loras Tyrell looked even younger than his sixteen years" Ding ding. winner. I don't get why people expected him to be some big burly man. Bruce Lee can be described as "slender as a reed" too. Even logic in the books supports the fact that Loras' actor's physique was a mess up: + Show Spoiler +Can't exactly quote it but there's a part in the books where it was noted that all the swordplay done by Grenn showed in his physique. Unless Loras practiced for an hour a day tops and relied on natural talent to get him by he should be either cut like a rock or have some muscle on him. Personally I wasn't looking for some big burly man, but I would've thought that they'd pick someone with the physique of someone who engages in moderate physical activity on a regular basis.
exacatly. someone who's training / riding / probably fucking all day, would be at least kind of ripped.
On May 19 2011 11:35 Jyvblamo wrote:I also suspect that Loras' casting was meant to contrast the softness of the knights of the summer against the more battle-hardened Northerners. + Show Spoiler +When was the last time the southern armies even fought in a war? Mace Tyrell pretty much surrendered his forces without a fight in Robert's rebellion, and I doubt that they fought much at all in Balon Greyjoy's rebellion.
well. the Tyrell's are the LannisteR's bannermen,aren't they? so I guess they would have been called to battle.
or am i confused (by something happening later, book 4 i think)...
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and it's just, that the lannisters are trying to get highgarden, by marrying tommen and loras sister way later?!
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On May 19 2011 18:17 sCuMBaG wrote:well. the Tyrell's are the LannisteR's bannermen, so I guess they would have been called to battle. or am i confused (by something happening later, book 4 i think)... + Show Spoiler +
and it's just, that the lannisters are trying to get highgarden, by marrying tommen and loras sister way later?!
The Tyrells are not the Lannister's bannermen, the Tyrells are Lords of Highgarden (of equal political hierarchal status as the Lannisters and the Starks)
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On May 19 2011 18:33 MozzarellaL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 18:17 sCuMBaG wrote:well. the Tyrell's are the LannisteR's bannermen, so I guess they would have been called to battle. or am i confused (by something happening later, book 4 i think)... + Show Spoiler +
and it's just, that the lannisters are trying to get highgarden, by marrying tommen and loras sister way later?!
The Tyrells are not the Lannister's bannermen, the Tyrells are Lords of Highgarden (of equal political hierarchal status as the Lannisters and the Starks)
He might be thinking about the Tarlys. They're Tyrell bannermen though.
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On May 19 2011 17:44 Tili_us wrote:So the next week after the double episodes will be a re-run ?
Yeh, if you can call it a re-run. 7th episode will be available just for the HBO GO users - until next week when it actually airs on TV, following the regular schedule.
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casting for season 2
I dont know if i need to spoiler this anyway she has the look to pull it off (its one my personal favorites)
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On May 19 2011 18:50 betaV1.25 wrote:casting for season 2 I dont know if i need to spoiler this anyway she has the look to pull it off (its one my personal favorites) + Show Spoiler +
Well they had her act in Rome so it is logical they would choose her for this as well. And she does look beautiful enough
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On May 19 2011 12:02 Sanctimonius wrote:
Artistic license, maybe? So!
How about Tyrion doing pretty much the only heroic thing in the series so far by saving Catelyn instead of trying to escape when he had the chance? Also Catelyn's sister is pretty much as batshit crazy as I expected.
He could not escape in that situation. He is small, slow, not much of a fighter, he cannot get on a horse by himself and was in the middle of a very dangerous territory full of the people that attacked them. The best he could do was save Catelyn and hope she decided he didn't do it afterall.
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On May 19 2011 12:17 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 23:57 kerpal wrote:On May 18 2011 23:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:On May 18 2011 23:33 -Archangel- wrote:On May 18 2011 22:13 PlaGuE_R wrote:On May 18 2011 22:06 -Archangel- wrote:On May 18 2011 21:37 Numy wrote:On May 18 2011 21:15 -Archangel- wrote:
Come on people. Loras said he practices each day with a sword. I practiced with a stick in my martial arts class 3 times per week and after a few months I could feel the difference and my arms looked way more buff then Loras although still not big. They fucked up with this and no false logic will save it. If you really care that much about it then I don't think you should continue to watch series. It's for enjoyment sake. Nitpicking that hardcore will just make everything not enjoyable no matter the content. No, I do not care but I do care when people try to apply false logic to push their point or story forward. This part with Loras was an obvious mistake (and there are more in the series) but considering + Show Spoiler [minor spoiler from Book 1] +Loras will probably not appear in this season again it was too much to ask the actor to spend some weeks/months in a gym so he can better look the part to only show up for 3 minutes in the whole season. ....go look at Bruce Lee... size of your arms =/= strength. I've seen smaller and thinner people to the guy who plays Loras be about 10x more powerful then massive Gregor like guys. So please don't try and call everything false logic. I've seen a 5 foot, super thin Thai guy kick a 6'3 ultra ripped Englishman in pads (the ones you hold for kicking practice) and make him stumble back 2 feet, when he wasnt even putting much force in his kick! seen it with my own eyes! Lol you pick Bruce Lee of all the people. He has a really strong sinewy body. Loras not even close to that. And you second example where you compare a martial artist focusing all his forward momentum into a kick and pushing someone away (who is at that point just a bag of force) to people fighting with swords and the effect of constant daily practice with piece of metal and the effect of that on your body, is a big FAIL. If want to go by these stupid descriptions that mean nothing, I seen with my own eyes a guy with a huge belly do a flying kick. But you know what, this guy was training martial arts for like 20 years and had 3x the muscle of Loras actor although he was not buff. no dude, i'm saying size doesnt mean shit all. go look at Samurai and see if u find massive body builder types there. and the martial artist wasnt focusing much energy to push back another martial artist that was double his size. It's not about how big you are, it's how you use those muscles. There's a martial arts theory that people have red and white muscles with red being big bodybuilder types that deliver burst power and white being less strength but more endurance and then pink type which is as powerful as red but as endurant as white and not bulky. anyways, size doesn't matter, especially if the entire force used is provided by a horse and not by you ie jousting. go watch Ong Bak and Tom Yum Goong and see how smaller = stronger in some cases yeah, plus i'm skinny as a rake and i'd kick all your asses...... Rofl all you guys need to go watch some MMA. There is a reason they have weightclasses. In 99% of cases big does = better. The only times it doesnt is if the smaller guy is way better trained, and the big guy is untrained.
Sword- or lanceplay isn't lameass grappling on the floor, so your logic can't be fully applied.
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Holy shit I just watched the 5 episodes...
All I can say is I'm going to be sitting in my room rocking back and forth until 22nd.
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On May 19 2011 18:50 betaV1.25 wrote:casting for season 2 I dont know if i need to spoiler this anyway she has the look to pull it off (its one my personal favorites) + Show Spoiler +
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I googled her and my first thought was that she'd make a great Ygritte, but her description obviously points towards Melisandre.
Interesting choice nevertheless.
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woop! finally got all the books! kind of regret that I already have the characters in my head but it makes me realise how amazingly good some of the casting was. Jaime and Tyrion especially.
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On May 19 2011 19:53 Jombozeus wrote:
Holy shit I just watched the 5 episodes...
All I can say is I'm going to be sitting in my room rocking back and forth until 22nd.
That good? :D
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On May 19 2011 18:17 sCuMBaG wrote:
exacatly. someone who's training / riding / probably fucking all day, would be at least kind of ripped.]
ripped isn't the right word to use. With the exception of the percentage of us who are genetic freaks, being ripped comes from having a low body fat percentage and working out specifically for that, having a modern targeted diet. Funnily enough, the guys I know who are actually dangerous people in terms of using weapons or fist fighting are mostly not 'ripped'. And the only fighters I know who are ripped are competition fighters, because they can't have any extra weight. Many of the ripped bodybuilders I know are complete pussies and would get ripped to shreds by the guys with beer bellies. You can have enough strength to wear armour and hold weapons even if you don't look strong.
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On May 19 2011 23:41 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 18:17 sCuMBaG wrote:
exacatly. someone who's training / riding / probably fucking all day, would be at least kind of ripped.] ripped isn't the right word to use. With the exception of the percentage of us who are genetic freaks, being ripped comes from having a low body fat percentage and working out specifically for that, having a modern targeted diet. Funnily enough, the guys I know who are actually dangerous people in terms of using weapons or fist fighting are mostly not 'ripped'. And the only fighters I know who are ripped are competition fighters, because they can't have any extra weight. Many of the ripped bodybuilders I know are complete pussies and would get ripped to shreds by the guys with beer bellies. You can have enough strength to wear armour and hold weapons even if you don't look strong.
While you are of course completely correct, in the context this argument came from Loras doesn't exactly have a beer belly either. He's a skinny kid with virtually no muscle mass at all, regardless of whether or not it's covered by a layer of fat.
He has a gamer's physique, not any even remotely athletic one.
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