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On May 18 2011 16:03 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 04:58 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Gay scene was so epic hot. It was like a great big potpourried fart in the faces of all those hurly burly knightly fanboys. idk if i'd use the word hot, but i was glad, that when the knight of flowers came to the scene i was like "gaaaaayy", and what the hell he actually was, thx Game of Thrones! Btw any idea how to buy the first book in Romania? I was searching on e bay but nobody ships to over here, and the bookstores id Budapest have only the last book
I am kinda confused to where you are anyway, when I am in Budapest I buy my books @ alexandra.
http://www.alexandra.hu/
They have the books (just checked the webstore).
edit: didnt include the places in Bucharest
Anthony Frost English Bookshop carries it and allso Nautilus.
Outside of Bucharest it will be extremly hard i would say.
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On May 18 2011 16:04 Stroggoz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 16:02 MozzarellaL wrote:On May 18 2011 15:58 Phtes wrote:
SO, after seeing the latest episode multiple times, and not reading the books, during the Jamie / Ned Fight, is he ment to be depicted as nervous or weakening like he is?
Or is it to show his age, because during the entire fight he looked either weak or very nervous, and I'm leaning more towards nervous since he was about to hold his ground with Jamie. I would also be nervous to fighting a lose-lose battle. Either I lose the battle with Jamie and die. Or I win the battle with Jamie, kill him, and promptly get killed by his 10 remaining guards. that and the fact that jamie is a superior swordsman
That and the fact all his guards had just been murdered, his entire family is fucked by now being traitors to the throne and if he has much more of a life remaining it'll probably be spent in a cell.
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Jaime Lanister is widely considered one if not the best swordsmen ever to live. The fact Ned was going toe to toe with him at all is a credit to his fighting ability.
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To me it seemed like Jaime was toying with Ned at first but then had to get somewhat serious.
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I just read that the next season is not going to air until April 2012......thats a long time to wait 
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On May 18 2011 02:58 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 23:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:anyone who can, go watch episode 5 again. When the hill tribesmen attack catelyne's people, watch the 2nd man Bronn kills, he throws him on the ground, and when he runs him through they used a death sound from a WC3 human  Edit: rewatch the Jaime vs Ned fight as well, at first i thought Jaime was toying with Ned, but upon further watching, it's obvious that Jaime starts overconfident but by the end of the fight (right before that red cloak stabs Ned) he's fighting for real and Ned is keeping up. Jaime was probably impressed with Ned's fighting ability. go Starks! LOL I thought I was the only one to get that. Sound is of a footie dying r o f l
LOOOOL I just heard it too! It's actually a peasant/militia dying though.
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On May 18 2011 04:45 sCuMBaG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 04:16 -Frog- wrote:On May 18 2011 04:06 sCuMBaG wrote:
they even made a damn sucking sound^^
seriously... i suppose that scene was kind of meant to shock, but come on!
how the hell is a little gay boy like (this) ser loras supposed to beat anyone... I think the point is you can't judge someone based on their sexual preference. Though maybe the 4-5 seconds of nothing but suckling was a little too much lol. I don't judge anyone. but some boyman with no muscles at all. please... that dude wouldn't even be able to hold a lance
First of all like others said, its fiction. Secondly, have you seen UFC? The bodies vary very much, and there are hardly any "bodybuilding-lookers" left. Actually many of the successfull fighters arent very muscled, speed and long limbs is extremely valuable.
Finally id just like to add that since they use weapons, strength/muscles should imo play even less of a role, and speed/reach even more.
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Full suit of plate armor and a solid wood 10 foot lance? Yeah... no. Not gonna happen without some muscles.
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On May 18 2011 16:22 betaV1.25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 16:03 Geo.Rion wrote:On May 18 2011 04:58 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Gay scene was so epic hot. It was like a great big potpourried fart in the faces of all those hurly burly knightly fanboys. idk if i'd use the word hot, but i was glad, that when the knight of flowers came to the scene i was like "gaaaaayy", and what the hell he actually was, thx Game of Thrones! Btw any idea how to buy the first book in Romania? I was searching on e bay but nobody ships to over here, and the bookstores id Budapest have only the last book I am kinda confused to where you are anyway, when I am in Budapest I buy my books @ alexandra. http://www.alexandra.hu/They have the books (just checked the webstore). edit: didnt include the places in Bucharest Anthony Frost English Bookshop carries it and allso Nautilus. Outside of Bucharest it will be extremly hard i would say.
Before I moved to the UK, I lived in Oradea [ro] and you could find all the books at the local humanitas book store.
Their online store has it as well: http://www.libhumanitas.ro/urzeala-tronurilor.html
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On May 18 2011 20:34 exog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 04:45 sCuMBaG wrote:On May 18 2011 04:16 -Frog- wrote:On May 18 2011 04:06 sCuMBaG wrote:
they even made a damn sucking sound^^
seriously... i suppose that scene was kind of meant to shock, but come on!
how the hell is a little gay boy like (this) ser loras supposed to beat anyone... I think the point is you can't judge someone based on their sexual preference. Though maybe the 4-5 seconds of nothing but suckling was a little too much lol. I don't judge anyone. but some boyman with no muscles at all. please... that dude wouldn't even be able to hold a lance First of all like others said, its fiction. Secondly, have you seen UFC? The bodies vary very much, and there are hardly any "bodybuilding-lookers" left. Actually many of the successfull fighters arent very muscled, speed and long limbs is extremely valuable. Finally id just like to add that since they use weapons, strength/muscles should imo play even less of a role, and speed/reach even more.
Actually, in MMA it's not much to do with reach and speed....it's mostly that not having giant muscles to rob your blood of oxygen gives you better endurance.
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On May 18 2011 20:34 exog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 04:45 sCuMBaG wrote:On May 18 2011 04:16 -Frog- wrote:On May 18 2011 04:06 sCuMBaG wrote:
they even made a damn sucking sound^^
seriously... i suppose that scene was kind of meant to shock, but come on!
how the hell is a little gay boy like (this) ser loras supposed to beat anyone... I think the point is you can't judge someone based on their sexual preference. Though maybe the 4-5 seconds of nothing but suckling was a little too much lol. I don't judge anyone. but some boyman with no muscles at all. please... that dude wouldn't even be able to hold a lance First of all like others said, its fiction. Secondly, have you seen UFC? The bodies vary very much, and there are hardly any "bodybuilding-lookers" left. Actually many of the successfull fighters arent very muscled, speed and long limbs is extremely valuable. Finally id just like to add that since they use weapons, strength/muscles should imo play even less of a role, and speed/reach even more.
Sounds good...if you're fighting in your boxers. Try being fast with a 10 lb sword with stick arms.
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On May 18 2011 10:48 Doko wrote:
Yet in the book she gives herself almost willingly to him right after the wedding.
What do you think would have happened if she didn't? She did that to improve her own situation.
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he was described as slender in the books, I think it fits perfectly.
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On May 18 2011 20:46 Sm3agol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 20:34 exog wrote:On May 18 2011 04:45 sCuMBaG wrote:On May 18 2011 04:16 -Frog- wrote:On May 18 2011 04:06 sCuMBaG wrote:
they even made a damn sucking sound^^
seriously... i suppose that scene was kind of meant to shock, but come on!
how the hell is a little gay boy like (this) ser loras supposed to beat anyone... I think the point is you can't judge someone based on their sexual preference. Though maybe the 4-5 seconds of nothing but suckling was a little too much lol. I don't judge anyone. but some boyman with no muscles at all. please... that dude wouldn't even be able to hold a lance First of all like others said, its fiction. Secondly, have you seen UFC? The bodies vary very much, and there are hardly any "bodybuilding-lookers" left. Actually many of the successfull fighters arent very muscled, speed and long limbs is extremely valuable. Finally id just like to add that since they use weapons, strength/muscles should imo play even less of a role, and speed/reach even more. Sounds good...if you're fighting in your boxers. Try being fast with a 10 lb sword with stick arms.
actually the most common medieval sword, the longsword, didnt weigh more than 3 lbs, and a good part of that weight is in the pommel, for balance and the ease of handling. that being said, loras looks a bit of a wuss still.
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On May 18 2011 16:38 SpectralFremen wrote:
Jaime Lanister is widely considered one if not the best swordsmen ever to live. The fact Ned was going toe to toe with him at all is a credit to his fighting ability.
Well, we did not read the same book. I thought Jaime was a great fighter but never considered as a legend because he had never been in a situation where he would face a difficult opponent.
Always choosing his opponent wisely, as a true Lannister.
+ Show Spoiler [don't remember which book but mo…] +That's why his mother cry when he answer her that he is a knight as his father wanted him to be, no ?
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On May 18 2011 20:40 AndyJay wrote:
Full suit of plate armor and a solid wood 10 foot lance? Yeah... no. Not gonna happen without some muscles.
actualy a full set of plate armor made of steal weights as much as 25kilos / 50 pounds.
a 10 feet solid oakwood lance is no more than 3kilos/7 pounds.
I only weight 100 pounds and if you strap that weight into my backpack i could still run at least 2 miles before losing breath.
not to mention that you are biased by what you see in movies, knights needing help to mount or put on armor.
In fact I saw it with my own eyes to a festival where one man wearing full plate armor ran and catched up with a clother from the audience.
That and as you saw in the movie all that Ser Loras did since the age of 10 was train in beeing a better fighter.
All ins and outs when you strap someone on the back of a galloping horse his weight and muscle suddenly does not matter that much.
Anticipation of both your position and opponent, a sure eye and a steady hand is the top requirements.
And he did used a trick, a mare in heat to make his oponnent`s stallion restless.
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On May 18 2011 21:01 tertos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 20:40 AndyJay wrote:
Full suit of plate armor and a solid wood 10 foot lance? Yeah... no. Not gonna happen without some muscles. actualy a full set of plate armor made of steal weights as much as 25kilos / 50 pounds. a 10 feet solid oakwood lance is no more than 3kilos/7 pounds. I only weight 100 pounds and if you strap that weight into my backpack i could still run at least 2 miles before losing breath. not to mention that you are biased by what you see in movies, knights needing help to mount or put on armor. In fact I saw it with my own eyes to a festival where one man wearing full plate armor ran and catched up with a clother from the audience. That and as you saw in the movie all that Ser Loras did since the age of 10 was train in beeing a better fighter. All ins and outs when you strap someone on the back of a galloping horse his weight and muscle suddenly does not matter that much. Anticipation of both your position and opponent, a sure eye and a steady hand is the top requirements. And he did used a trick, a mare in heat to make his oponnent`s stallion restless.
I had a hard time understanding how the hell did you saw a guy running with a brest plate, then I read you were from Romania. 
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Come on people. Loras said he practices each day with a sword. I practiced with a stick in my martial arts class 3 times per week and after a few months I could feel the difference and my arms looked way more buff then Loras although still not big. They fucked up with this and no false logic will save it.
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What a pun. But it's logical that someone with good physical condition can do things as fast as in plate as other person, except that he'll be drained faster due to the fact that addition weight will increase the speed of energy exhaustion.
Anyways, I don't agree with the notion that you have to be muscular to be exactly strong. That's a pretty stupid stereotype. For example, I've known people who aren't muscular or bodybuilders but they could bench-press more than their own weight at least, which is more than 170 lbs. Nor were they BIG. And so on with other things like taekwondo and etc.
And as much as I know, muscle strength and sinew strength can complement each other, besides that strength and endurance training for muscles doesn't mean you'll have huge muscles. To build them up and make them look good, being "muscular" - that requires different type of exercises which doesn't necessarily increase strength much.
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If you train martial arts seriously for a couple of years you will develop a nice muscular build for sure. Which isn't the same as being a roid monkey - but it isn't the same as being a nancy boy either :p
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