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On October 17 2014 04:03 lilwisper wrote:
I'm in the same boat as everyone that says both will die. I also think you will see either Kakashi or Shikamaru as the new Hokage if they have it so that Tsunade stands down.
Both of them dying would make poetic sense, but plainly they don't die because they're in the final movie, which seems to promise some sort of closure to all this. The movie will end up being oddly timed though, since the anime is still some ways behind.
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On October 17 2014 04:58 Zane wrote:
Gee, what a cliffhanger! Will the 2 giant rasenshurikens hurt Sasuke?
If Sasuke really can attain immortality, his plan suddenly sounds feasible. Naruto isn't even presenting an alternative besides his friendship bullshit.
its still as unfeasible, its basically pains plan on steroids scare people into behaving
no matter how well its done it only creates more bloodshed as people fight against the Tyrant Narutos maybe "naive" but its got the perfect foundation as is hes already demonstrated the villages can work together perfectly, the army has already broken down barriers between villages he just has to make sure they stay down
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On October 17 2014 12:05 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 04:58 Zane wrote:
Gee, what a cliffhanger! Will the 2 giant rasenshurikens hurt Sasuke?
If Sasuke really can attain immortality, his plan suddenly sounds feasible. Naruto isn't even presenting an alternative besides his friendship bullshit. its still as unfeasible, its basically pains plan on steroids scare people into behaving no matter how well its done it only creates more bloodshed as people fight against the Tyrant Narutos maybe "naive" but its got the perfect foundation as is hes already demonstrated the villages can work together perfectly, the army has already broken down barriers between villages he just has to make sure they stay down
I can think of a few moments in human history where, after a common enemy was defeated, no conflict came between the nations involved after it (or between different factions of the same nation), but I'm pretty sure the opposite outweighs is by quite a bit.
As long as Sasuke is immortal, his plan is far better than Naruto's.
To put it this way, if God came down today and said, "no more wars, anyone who does will die" I'm pretty sure there would be no more conflict. There's no way to stop him, so you just have to listen.
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On October 17 2014 13:39 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 12:05 Forikorder wrote:On October 17 2014 04:58 Zane wrote:
Gee, what a cliffhanger! Will the 2 giant rasenshurikens hurt Sasuke?
If Sasuke really can attain immortality, his plan suddenly sounds feasible. Naruto isn't even presenting an alternative besides his friendship bullshit. its still as unfeasible, its basically pains plan on steroids scare people into behaving no matter how well its done it only creates more bloodshed as people fight against the Tyrant Narutos maybe "naive" but its got the perfect foundation as is hes already demonstrated the villages can work together perfectly, the army has already broken down barriers between villages he just has to make sure they stay down I can think of a few moments in human history where, after a common enemy was defeated, no conflict came between the nations involved after it (or between different factions of the same nation), but I'm pretty sure the opposite outweighs is by quite a bit. As long as Sasuke is immortal, his plan is far better than Naruto's. To put it this way, if God came down today and said, "no more wars, anyone who does will die" I'm pretty sure there would be no more conflict. There's no way to stop him, so you just have to listen.
if a literal god did? sure
but if a man came out and said "no more war" and had teams of assasins kill anyone who seemed to be dangerous or broke his rules how long until someone said "fuck this shit im starting a rebel army"
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On October 17 2014 13:39 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 12:05 Forikorder wrote:On October 17 2014 04:58 Zane wrote:
Gee, what a cliffhanger! Will the 2 giant rasenshurikens hurt Sasuke?
If Sasuke really can attain immortality, his plan suddenly sounds feasible. Naruto isn't even presenting an alternative besides his friendship bullshit. its still as unfeasible, its basically pains plan on steroids scare people into behaving no matter how well its done it only creates more bloodshed as people fight against the Tyrant Narutos maybe "naive" but its got the perfect foundation as is hes already demonstrated the villages can work together perfectly, the army has already broken down barriers between villages he just has to make sure they stay down I can think of a few moments in human history where, after a common enemy was defeated, no conflict came between the nations involved after it (or between different factions of the same nation), but I'm pretty sure the opposite outweighs is by quite a bit. As long as Sasuke is immortal, his plan is far better than Naruto's. To put it this way, if God came down today and said, "no more wars, anyone who does will die" I'm pretty sure there would be no more conflict. There's no way to stop him, so you just have to listen.
That would be lack of conflict via supreme oppression, which is not the same as peace. You would have a lack of conflict until someone or some group found opportunity to rebel or strike the oppressor - if it were a god it would be no different, only frustrated by failure. Still not peace. That's the key difference between Naruto and Sasuke's plans that Kishimoto never outright touched on - both cases lead to no conflict, but that by itself doesn't fix things. If you're united against a common enemy, you're still at war, there's no peace there.
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On October 17 2014 07:32 SK.Testie wrote:
Won't end with the manga
End of the manga
"Enjoy the movie for the end!"
After the movie: Rejoice people! A complete reboot of the Naruto series starting from chapter one! This time you will get the real end!
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On October 17 2014 07:29 coverpunch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 07:05 Shellshock wrote:
Do you think the fight ends by next chapter? cutting it pretty close depending on how much of a wrap up is planned. Do you guys think there is any chance on a longer chapter to finish things or will it just be the same length as normal? No, megazord ninja fight must go on until someone comes up with a super duper ultimate move.
i wonder if 2000 years from now people will still understand certain of our civilization's cultural canons
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On October 17 2014 07:39 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 04:03 lilwisper wrote:
I'm in the same boat as everyone that says both will die. I also think you will see either Kakashi or Shikamaru as the new Hokage if they have it so that Tsunade stands down. Both of them dying would make poetic sense, but plainly they don't die because they're in the final movie, which seems to promise some sort of closure to all this. The movie will end up being oddly timed though, since the anime is still some ways behind.
Can't you spoiler that? Some of us didn't check the movie...
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This chapter blew chunks.
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On October 17 2014 18:20 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 07:39 NewSunshine wrote:On October 17 2014 04:03 lilwisper wrote:
I'm in the same boat as everyone that says both will die. I also think you will see either Kakashi or Shikamaru as the new Hokage if they have it so that Tsunade stands down. Both of them dying would make poetic sense, but plainly they don't die because they're in the final movie, which seems to promise some sort of closure to all this. The movie will end up being oddly timed though, since the anime is still some ways behind. Can't you spoiler that? Some of us didn't check the movie...
It's not like I know or said what happens therein. All I really said is the final chapter isn't really the end, which I imagine you would have figured out soon enough anyway.
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I had a chuckle when Sasuke started talking about immorality. The whole, he's on the sage of the six path was a bit much and I don't see why Naruto thinks splitting up and distributing his chakra in the process is a good idea when one Susanoo should be able to take on three of Narutos due to each having 1/3 the power. Reminded me of that goku vs tian and goku vs cell fight where the one who split up lost that mini fight lol. Other than that, just general fighting and art needed a bit more work this chapter. Onto part 4! XD
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On October 18 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
I had a chuckle when Sasuke started talking about immorality. The whole, he's on the sage of the six path was a bit much and I don't see why Naruto thinks splitting up and distributing his chakra in the process is a good idea when one Susanoo should be able to take on three of Narutos due to each having 1/3 the power. Reminded me of that goku vs tian and goku vs cell fight where the one who split up lost that mini fight lol. Other than that, just general fighting and art needed a bit more work this chapter. Onto part 4! XD
running out of power hasnt been a problem for a long time, even during the war he only needed to get recharged like once
Kurama had just finished gathering a ton of energy so i think the idea is that by himself he can only make a rasengan so big, but by having 3 people make the same rasengan he can use more power at a time even though each one has less power available then the original
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On October 18 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
I had a chuckle when Sasuke started talking about immorality. The whole, he's on the sage of the six path was a bit much and I don't see why Naruto thinks splitting up and distributing his chakra in the process is a good idea when one Susanoo should be able to take on three of Narutos due to each having 1/3 the power. Reminded me of that goku vs tian and goku vs cell fight where the one who split up lost that mini fight lol. Other than that, just general fighting and art needed a bit more work this chapter. Onto part 4! XD running out of power hasnt been a problem for a long time, even during the war he only needed to get recharged like once Kurama had just finished gathering a ton of energy so i think the idea is that by himself he can only make a rasengan so big, but by having 3 people make the same rasengan he can use more power at a time even though each one has less power available then the original
ya but in the end, it's the same total power unless having 2 rasengans somehow are greater than 1 (power wise I mean) so what different does it make? I doubt there's a limit as to how big a rasengan can be. He can probably stretch the arms infinitely at this point lol.
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On October 18 2014 13:06 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 12:44 Forikorder wrote:On October 18 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
I had a chuckle when Sasuke started talking about immorality. The whole, he's on the sage of the six path was a bit much and I don't see why Naruto thinks splitting up and distributing his chakra in the process is a good idea when one Susanoo should be able to take on three of Narutos due to each having 1/3 the power. Reminded me of that goku vs tian and goku vs cell fight where the one who split up lost that mini fight lol. Other than that, just general fighting and art needed a bit more work this chapter. Onto part 4! XD running out of power hasnt been a problem for a long time, even during the war he only needed to get recharged like once Kurama had just finished gathering a ton of energy so i think the idea is that by himself he can only make a rasengan so big, but by having 3 people make the same rasengan he can use more power at a time even though each one has less power available then the original ya but in the end, it's the same total power unless having 2 rasengans somehow are greater than 1 (power wise I mean) so what different does it make? I doubt there's a limit as to how big a rasengan can be. He can probably stretch the arms infinitely at this point lol.
how im thinking is he has 3 million chakra, but he can only create a rasengan that has 1000 power solo so he makes 2 clones then each one makes a 1000 power rasengan so now he has 3 1000 power rasengan instead of 1 1000 power rasengan
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it shouldn't even need to be big, it just needs to be dense.
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On October 18 2014 13:45 ETisME wrote:
it shouldn't even need to be big, it just needs to be dense.
im saying that since hes not so good at controlling chakra he can only make it so strong solo
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Uh, I read it pretty clearly as him buying time for the sage chakra explosion...Shadow clones are supposed to be primarily a recon/distraction tech.
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On October 18 2014 16:02 zeropoint wrote:
Uh, I read it pretty clearly as him buying time for the sage chakra explosion...Shadow clones are supposed to be primarily a recon/distraction tech.
well hes been using them as the main part of his offensive since.... he learned it
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On October 19 2014 01:19 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 16:02 zeropoint wrote:
Uh, I read it pretty clearly as him buying time for the sage chakra explosion...Shadow clones are supposed to be primarily a recon/distraction tech. well hes been using them as the main part of his offensive since.... he learned it
They haven't been his main offensive ever since learning the Rasengan. Ever since training for that jutsu, his shadow clones have been used for other means, through either using its property of chakra connection, using it as a diversion to buy time, or to safely size up his opponent.
Also, how is he not good at controlling chakra? To use the Rasengan in the first place you have to be exceedingly good at it, leave alone a Bijuu-dama, which he also nailed.
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On October 19 2014 10:01 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 01:19 Forikorder wrote:On October 18 2014 16:02 zeropoint wrote:
Uh, I read it pretty clearly as him buying time for the sage chakra explosion...Shadow clones are supposed to be primarily a recon/distraction tech. well hes been using them as the main part of his offensive since.... he learned it They haven't been his main offensive ever since learning the Rasengan. Ever since training for that jutsu, his shadow clones have been used for other means, through either using its property of chakra connection, using it as a diversion to buy time, or to safely size up his opponent. Also, how is he not good at controlling chakra? To use the Rasengan in the first place you have to be exceedingly good at it, leave alone a Bijuu-dama, which he also nailed.
you realise he needs shadow clones to make the Rasengan right?
he needed a clone to make a rasengan, Jiraiya can easily make a rasengan using one hand, Naruto needed 3
and he could only make Bijuudamas AFTER he became BFFs with Kurama so im willing to be Kurama is helping him get the ratio right
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