[Manga] Naruto - Page 521

On August 25 2012 12:24 meijin wrote:
if he gets caught, couldn't he just teleport away?

On August 25 2012 12:32 rei wrote:
Well there is another theory involving madara's Sharingan power, it has the power to manipulate time, so he can turn time backward and possibly forward. the only evidence we have is him using it during his fight with the first hokage, in which he made time travels backward and then resume again. If he were able to manipulate time but not change the outcome, there could be the possibility that there are two version of madara, one from the past that travel to the future, and the other dead in the same timeline.

On August 25 2012 12:25 Forikorder wrote:

couldnt he ahve jsut teleported in?

On August 25 2012 13:35 meijin wrote:


how do you know he didn't? i found the chapter you're referring to (ch. 590) and there is only one page that shows the convo between itachi and tobi. there's nothing to indicate that tobi is sneaking around as you say. all that is said is that itachi knows that tobi was in the secret room, reading the secret tablet. it actually looks like itachi went to confront tobi at his hideout to me.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c590/11.html

are you trying to argue that tobi couldn't teleport at the time of the uchiha massacre? i don't get the point you're trying to make arguing his teleportation abilities.

I'm almost 100% sure that Tobi is someone old enough to be able to either take Madara's eyes or is somehow Madara. During his fight with Konan when part of his masked was blasted off his face is revealed, you can see his second sharingan. The problem is that the second sharingan went into mangekyou and looks suspiciously like Madara's EMS or just Izuna's MS.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/8.html
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangekyō_Sharingan (Scroll down to the bottom to see the different Mangekyou Sharingans)

On August 25 2012 09:30 rei wrote:
I don't think nagato could simply revive madara, unless there is a trick through the geko thingy that rinnegan can summon which allows nagato to browse through the pure world to find madara's soul. but that's too far out there with no facts to back it up, all we know about this geko thingy is that he will suck up ppl's soul and store them if it's summon in the impure world, we don't know if it works the same in the pure world.

On August 26 2012 09:59 Courthead wrote:


Proof that Nagato could have revived Madara:



And proof that Madara knew who Tobi was before he died:

On August 26 2012 10:21 Courthead wrote:
Madara himself expected Nagato to be the one to resurrect him. He was surprised to learn that it was Impure World Resurrection instead, and concluded that things must not be going "according to plan."

How is that not proof? Why would Kishi write that?

We're going to learn what Madara and Tobi's plan was eventually, and I'll bet $5 it involved Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan so he could resurrect Madara.

On August 26 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:

it only shows that it might have been possible for the S06P to ressurect Madara, since he had insane chakra and completely mastery of the rinnegan, if Nagato couldnt even ressurect Yahiko Madara was FAR outside his ability

On August 26 2012 11:46 Courthead wrote:

What??? I don't buy that logic. You can't just pick some point in a character's history when he sucked, and claim he was going to be that shitty forever. That's like saying Naruto can never beat Tobi because when he was a kid, he had trouble beating Neji.

Obviously Nagato's resurrection power was getting stronger. He went from not being able to revive one guy immediately after his death, to being able to revive thousands of people hours after their deaths, and after he was almost out of chakra.

You also don't know all the details of how things work. Maybe Nagato didn't want to resurrect Yahiko? Maybe controlling Nagato as a path of Pain made him impossible to resurrect? Maybe Madara would be easier to resurrect due to some special power like him having the Rinnegan, too? There's too many questions that you and I can't answer, so you cannot conclusively state what the limits of the resurrection power is. The only real evidence we have is that Kishi made Madara state that Nagato could have resurrected him.