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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 25 2012 03:25 GMT
#10401
On August 25 2012 12:24 meijin wrote:
if he gets caught, couldn't he just teleport away?

couldnt he ahve jsut teleported in?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 25 2012 03:32 GMT
#10402
Well there is another theory involving madara's Sharingan power, it has the power to manipulate time, so he can turn time backward and possibly forward. the only evidence we have is him using it during his fight with the first hokage, in which he made time travels backward and then resume again. If he were able to manipulate time but not change the outcome, there could be the possibility that there are two version of madara, one from the past that travel to the future, and the other dead in the same timeline.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#10403
On August 25 2012 12:32 rei wrote:
Well there is another theory involving madara's Sharingan power, it has the power to manipulate time, so he can turn time backward and possibly forward. the only evidence we have is him using it during his fight with the first hokage, in which he made time travels backward and then resume again. If he were able to manipulate time but not change the outcome, there could be the possibility that there are two version of madara, one from the past that travel to the future, and the other dead in the same timeline.

he used Izanagi to fake his death...

if he could control time like that then Konoha would either be smoking rubble or he would be the Hokage
meijin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
August 25 2012 04:35 GMT
#10404
On August 25 2012 12:25 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 12:24 meijin wrote:
if he gets caught, couldn't he just teleport away?

couldnt he ahve jsut teleported in?


how do you know he didn't? i found the chapter you're referring to (ch. 590) and there is only one page that shows the convo between itachi and tobi. there's nothing to indicate that tobi is sneaking around as you say. all that is said is that itachi knows that tobi was in the secret room, reading the secret tablet. it actually looks like itachi went to confront tobi at his hideout to me.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c590/11.html
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 25 2012 04:39 GMT
#10405
On August 25 2012 13:35 meijin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 12:25 Forikorder wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:24 meijin wrote:
if he gets caught, couldn't he just teleport away?

couldnt he ahve jsut teleported in?


how do you know he didn't? i found the chapter you're referring to (ch. 590) and there is only one page that shows the convo between itachi and tobi. there's nothing to indicate that tobi is sneaking around as you say. all that is said is that itachi knows that tobi was in the secret room, reading the secret tablet. it actually looks like itachi went to confront tobi at his hideout to me.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c590/11.html

if he teeported in he wouldnt ahve been caught unless Itachi was right there are the time
meijin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
August 25 2012 05:02 GMT
#10406
are you trying to argue that tobi couldn't teleport at the time of the uchiha massacre? i don't get the point you're trying to make arguing his teleportation abilities.
.ImchEEzy
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada123 Posts
August 25 2012 05:11 GMT
#10407
Also don't forget kisame knew the person behind the mask. He was in control of a kage, I believe from the sand where he reached out a hand to kisame. Then after Atkatsuki, Tobi revealed his bare face again to Kisame and he knew the big plan going on.
meijin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
August 25 2012 05:24 GMT
#10408
tobi was controlling the 4th mizukage who was the jinchuuriki of the sanbi (3 tailed beast). kisame met tobi when he assasintaed the previous owner of samehada. tobi showed him his face at that meeting and told kisame he was uchiha madara (ch. 507). i don't think kisame knew tobi's true identity. he actually thought it was madara.

Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 25 2012 05:30 GMT
#10409
why would madara be resurrected through the ringan if you could use the impure world resurrection, break the seal and become unstopable?
I am pretty sure that Tobi wanted it to use for itself and not for Madara. Because Tobi did not know about the impure world resurrection.
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No0n
Profile Joined March 2010
United States355 Posts
August 25 2012 06:12 GMT
#10410
I'm almost 100% sure that Tobi is someone old enough to be able to either take Madara's eyes or is somehow Madara. During his fight with Konan when part of his masked was blasted off his face is revealed, you can see his second sharingan. The problem is that the second sharingan went into mangekyou and looks suspiciously like Madara's EMS or just Izuna's MS.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/8.html
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangekyō_Sharingan (Scroll down to the bottom to see the different Mangekyou Sharingans)
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 21:32:44
August 25 2012 06:52 GMT
#10411
http://citymanga.com/naruto/chapter-510/08/

In this page look at Tobi's eye that will be closing since he used Izangi. Is that a M sharingan or just the way it was drawn makes it look so cause it kinda blended together? From looking at some of the other pages it looks just more like the drawing itself (some of the other tomoes aren't drawn well at all).

Edit: Totally didn't see that the poster above me posed the same question lol.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 25 2012 07:06 GMT
#10412
That actually does look like izuna's MS. I never noticed that, i simply thought it was how he drew the sharingan since that half of his face was shadowed.
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meijin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
August 25 2012 08:44 GMT
#10413
they are clearly not the same. if you look at the center of izuna's mangekyo, it is red while the 3 stokes are black. the center of tobi's eye in the manga is black as well as the 3 stokes. i think it just blended together a bit and is meant to be the same as the other eye, a regular 3 tomoe sharingan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 25 2012 15:26 GMT
#10414
are you trying to argue that tobi couldn't teleport at the time of the uchiha massacre? i don't get the point you're trying to make arguing his teleportation abilities.


im trying to say the Uchiha secret place has better defenses that Tobi couldnt sneak in too easily

I'm almost 100% sure that Tobi is someone old enough to be able to either take Madara's eyes or is somehow Madara. During his fight with Konan when part of his masked was blasted off his face is revealed, you can see his second sharingan. The problem is that the second sharingan went into mangekyou and looks suspiciously like Madara's EMS or just Izuna's MS.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/8.html
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangekyō_Sharingan (Scroll down to the bottom to see the different Mangekyou Sharingans)


its just because the angles and the shadow the tomoes arent shown that well if his one eye was awakened to MS then the other eye would be in MS mode too so neither eye is in MS

plus that would be the dumbest place to put foreshadowing IMO
Courthead
Profile Joined October 2006
United States246 Posts
August 26 2012 00:59 GMT
#10415
On August 25 2012 09:30 rei wrote:
I don't think nagato could simply revive madara, unless there is a trick through the geko thingy that rinnegan can summon which allows nagato to browse through the pure world to find madara's soul. but that's too far out there with no facts to back it up, all we know about this geko thingy is that he will suck up ppl's soul and store them if it's summon in the impure world, we don't know if it works the same in the pure world.


Proof that Nagato could have revived Madara:

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And proof that Madara knew who Tobi was before he died:

[image loading]
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 26 2012 01:01 GMT
#10416
On August 26 2012 09:59 Courthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 09:30 rei wrote:
I don't think nagato could simply revive madara, unless there is a trick through the geko thingy that rinnegan can summon which allows nagato to browse through the pure world to find madara's soul. but that's too far out there with no facts to back it up, all we know about this geko thingy is that he will suck up ppl's soul and store them if it's summon in the impure world, we don't know if it works the same in the pure world.


Proof that Nagato could have revived Madara:

[image loading]

And proof that Madara knew who Tobi was before he died:

[image loading]

no thats not proof in the least Nagato could ahve revived Madara
Courthead
Profile Joined October 2006
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 01:23:06
August 26 2012 01:21 GMT
#10417
Madara himself expected Nagato to be the one to resurrect him. He was surprised to learn that it was Impure World Resurrection instead, and concluded that things must not be going "according to plan."

How is that not proof? Why would Kishi write that?

We're going to learn what Madara and Tobi's plan was eventually, and I'll bet $5 it involved Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan so he could resurrect Madara.
Be someone significant.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 26 2012 02:11 GMT
#10418
On August 26 2012 10:21 Courthead wrote:
Madara himself expected Nagato to be the one to resurrect him. He was surprised to learn that it was Impure World Resurrection instead, and concluded that things must not be going "according to plan."

How is that not proof? Why would Kishi write that?

We're going to learn what Madara and Tobi's plan was eventually, and I'll bet $5 it involved Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan so he could resurrect Madara.

it only shows that it might have been possible for the S06P to ressurect Madara, since he had insane chakra and completely mastery of the rinnegan, if Nagato couldnt even ressurect Yahiko Madara was FAR outside his ability
Courthead
Profile Joined October 2006
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 03:24:20
August 26 2012 02:46 GMT
#10419
On August 26 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 10:21 Courthead wrote:
Madara himself expected Nagato to be the one to resurrect him. He was surprised to learn that it was Impure World Resurrection instead, and concluded that things must not be going "according to plan."

How is that not proof? Why would Kishi write that?

We're going to learn what Madara and Tobi's plan was eventually, and I'll bet $5 it involved Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan so he could resurrect Madara.

it only shows that it might have been possible for the S06P to ressurect Madara, since he had insane chakra and completely mastery of the rinnegan, if Nagato couldnt even ressurect Yahiko Madara was FAR outside his ability

Mmm, I don't buy that logic. We can't just pick some point in a character's history when he sucked, and claim he was going to be that shitty forever. It'd be like saying Naruto can never beat Tobi, because when he was a kid he had trouble beating Neji.

Obviously Nagato's resurrection power was getting stronger. He went from not being able to revive one guy immediately after his death, to being able to revive thousands of people hours after their deaths, and after he was almost out of chakra. Who's to say it wouldn't eventually be good enough to bring back Madara?

We also don't know all the details of how things work. Maybe Madara would be easier to resurrect due to some special power like him having the Rinnegan, too? There's too many questions that you and I can't answer, so you cannot conclusively state what the limits of the resurrection power is. The only real evidence we have is that Kishi made Madara say that Nagato could have resurrected him.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 26 2012 03:19 GMT
#10420
On August 26 2012 11:46 Courthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:
On August 26 2012 10:21 Courthead wrote:
Madara himself expected Nagato to be the one to resurrect him. He was surprised to learn that it was Impure World Resurrection instead, and concluded that things must not be going "according to plan."

How is that not proof? Why would Kishi write that?

We're going to learn what Madara and Tobi's plan was eventually, and I'll bet $5 it involved Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan so he could resurrect Madara.

it only shows that it might have been possible for the S06P to ressurect Madara, since he had insane chakra and completely mastery of the rinnegan, if Nagato couldnt even ressurect Yahiko Madara was FAR outside his ability

What??? I don't buy that logic. You can't just pick some point in a character's history when he sucked, and claim he was going to be that shitty forever. That's like saying Naruto can never beat Tobi because when he was a kid, he had trouble beating Neji.

Obviously Nagato's resurrection power was getting stronger. He went from not being able to revive one guy immediately after his death, to being able to revive thousands of people hours after their deaths, and after he was almost out of chakra.

You also don't know all the details of how things work. Maybe Nagato didn't want to resurrect Yahiko? Maybe controlling Nagato as a path of Pain made him impossible to resurrect? Maybe Madara would be easier to resurrect due to some special power like him having the Rinnegan, too? There's too many questions that you and I can't answer, so you cannot conclusively state what the limits of the resurrection power is. The only real evidence we have is that Kishi made Madara state that Nagato could have resurrected him.

the problem probably is he doesnt yet know how to even use the abilty

the Deva path had 2 abilities, one standard push and pull ability that could be pretty much spammed and got more powerful the more chakra you put into it but could only push or pull

then it had the super black ball that creates a mini-moon, stands to reason that all 6 patchs have the same sort of ultimate ability so the revival path would also have a super ability that blows what weve seen out of the water but Nagato wasnt capable of using just like how he couldnt use his regular revive that brought back Konoha when Yahiko died

besides its a completely moot point, Nagatos dead, we dont know if Madara was even right to think the Rinnegan could ressurect him like that e.t.c
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