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On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred.
No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks.
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On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. I swear it was left but I gotta go reread
(just checked, it's right side)
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On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him.
Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face.
Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol.
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God, I hope its not Obito. It wouldn't make any fucking sense at all.
Izuna would be legitimately pretty epic though. I can't wait to see the two brothers fighting side by side.
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On August 29 2012 15:54 Brutaxilos wrote: God, I hope its not Obito. It wouldn't make any fucking sense at all.
Izuna would be legitimately pretty epic though. I can't wait to see the two brothers fighting side by side. Sorry, but it's been confirmed that it is Obito by Evil on narutoforums.com. Kishi will come up with some half ass excuse to explain how a 14yo fooled Minato. Read my previous post.
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On August 29 2012 15:55 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 15:54 Brutaxilos wrote: God, I hope its not Obito. It wouldn't make any fucking sense at all.
Izuna would be legitimately pretty epic though. I can't wait to see the two brothers fighting side by side. Sorry, but it's been confirmed that it is Obito by Evil on narutoforums.com. Kishi will come up with some half ass excuse to explain how a 14yo fooled Minato. Read my previous post. Link?
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On August 29 2012 16:02 Brutaxilos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 15:55 Wrecken wrote:On August 29 2012 15:54 Brutaxilos wrote: God, I hope its not Obito. It wouldn't make any fucking sense at all.
Izuna would be legitimately pretty epic though. I can't wait to see the two brothers fighting side by side. Sorry, but it's been confirmed that it is Obito by Evil on narutoforums.com. Kishi will come up with some half ass excuse to explain how a 14yo fooled Minato. Read my previous post. Link?
Same I would like link.
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Here is where they deciphered Evil's code http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=852570&page=48
Here is Evil explaining his msg. http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=852570&page=51
Just read everything on each of those links, and feel free to read the rest of the thread if you wish.
By using the first word on each page of the numbers Evil gave us in book 57, I think I got it.
Here is the deciphered code for the lazy, and Evil is always right with his spoilers. P37 - T P95 - O P89 - B P48 – I
P154 - I P177 – S
P131 - O P175 - B P182 - I P151 - T P131 – O
P99 - W P97 - I P57 - T P70 – H
P102 - H P69 - A P144 - L P169 – F
P131 - O P133 - L P64 – D
P132 - F P69 - A P90 - C P67.2 - E
go to each page number in book 57 after the spotlight quote, and the first word on each page number is one letter?
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I feel like you should spoil that for some reason. Yes we are discussing the manga but that guys spoilers are always correct and maybe people don't want to spoil the big reveal.
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On August 29 2012 15:50 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him. Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face. Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol.
Minato wrecked Madara in that fight, what are you talking about? A) He destroyed a plan Madara must have been putting together for years within a few minutes. B) He took out his entire left arm without a scratch on himself. After what? Seeing his technique twice? No one else in the manga has been able to hurt him until recently (using an entire team of super powerful ninja) and none have done as much damage as Minato did with one attack. C) Wouldn't he have been about 24 at that point?
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On August 29 2012 16:18 Zooper31 wrote: I feel like you should spoil that for some reason. Yes we are discussing the manga but that guys spoilers are always correct and maybe people don't want to spoil the big reveal. Everyone saw it coming for the past month, but it can still be someone else controlling him, like soul swapping or something. We will just have to wait and see.
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On August 29 2012 16:20 LeaD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 15:50 Wrecken wrote:On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him. Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face. Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol. Minato wrecked Madara in that fight, what are you talking about? A) He destroyed a plan Madara must have been putting together for years within a few minutes. B) He took out his entire left arm without a scratch on himself. After what? Seeing his technique twice? No one else in the manga has been able to hurt him until recently (using an entire team of super powerful ninja) and none have done as much damage as Minato did with one attack. C) Wouldn't he have been about 24 at that point? NO, Obito you mean, was only 14 when he fought Minato. Since Evil confirmed that Tobi is Obito, and the attack took place 1 year after Obito's "death", he was 14. Kakashi was also 14 at the time of the attack.
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What if the guise of Tobi was something that was passed down to Obito and maybe it was infact madara that got beaten down by the 4th all those years ago?
Then Tobi being Obito would actually make sense. We can't actually assume the guise of Tobi was ALWAYS Obito.
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On August 29 2012 16:23 cozzE wrote: What if the guise of Tobi was something that was passed down to Obito and maybe it was infact madara that got beaten down by the 4th all those years ago? Nope, Kishi is just gonna explain how Obito got that strong in 1 year, maybe like time is slower in pocket dimension or some crap like that, but from what's been said, that was actually Obito fighting Minato at the time, which is kind of crazy for a 14 year old. It could be since he has zetsu stuff in him or it could be anything. We haven't heard his backstory yet, and neither has Evil. So we will eventually see how he accomplished what he did.
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On August 29 2012 16:23 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:20 LeaD wrote:On August 29 2012 15:50 Wrecken wrote:On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him. Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face. Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol. Minato wrecked Madara in that fight, what are you talking about? A) He destroyed a plan Madara must have been putting together for years within a few minutes. B) He took out his entire left arm without a scratch on himself. After what? Seeing his technique twice? No one else in the manga has been able to hurt him until recently (using an entire team of super powerful ninja) and none have done as much damage as Minato did with one attack. C) Wouldn't he have been about 24 at that point? NO, Obito you mean, would have only been 14 then when he fought Minato. Since Evil confirmed that Tobi is Obito, and the attack took place 1 year after Obito's "death", he was 14.
Really? I thought it was at least a number of years after that point in the story. Kakashi looks a lot older than 14 and I sincerely doubt Obito at 14 is built like a grown man. I think I got my math wrong there, Minato was 23-24 when he took them on as a team and died at 28 did he not?
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Wait, what is the significance of those page numbers? They seem kind of random.
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On August 29 2012 16:29 LeaD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:23 Wrecken wrote:On August 29 2012 16:20 LeaD wrote:On August 29 2012 15:50 Wrecken wrote:On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him. Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face. Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol. Minato wrecked Madara in that fight, what are you talking about? A) He destroyed a plan Madara must have been putting together for years within a few minutes. B) He took out his entire left arm without a scratch on himself. After what? Seeing his technique twice? No one else in the manga has been able to hurt him until recently (using an entire team of super powerful ninja) and none have done as much damage as Minato did with one attack. C) Wouldn't he have been about 24 at that point? NO, Obito you mean, would have only been 14 then when he fought Minato. Since Evil confirmed that Tobi is Obito, and the attack took place 1 year after Obito's "death", he was 14. Really? I thought it was at least a number of years after that point in the story. Kakashi looks a lot older than 14 and I sincerely doubt Obito at 14 is built like a grown man. I think I got my math wrong there, Minato was 23-24 when he took them on as a team and died at 28 did he not? From the databook, Kakashi was 13 in his gaiden when Obito "died" in september, and the attack on Konoha took place the following year on October I believe. So that makes Obito 14. Don't forget we haven't heard his backstory yet, so his body was probably modified or something, and he could of been trained by the dying Madara. Anything is possible. But yes, 14 year old Obito fought Minato.
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On August 29 2012 16:30 Hier wrote: Wait, what is the significance of those page numbers? They seem kind of random. That wasn't the entire code, but was the jist of it. Basically, the first letter or those pages, spelled "Tobi is Obito with half old face". Evil then commented that by old he meant possibly scarred or aged.
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On August 29 2012 15:50 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 15:33 BlackPaladin wrote:On August 29 2012 10:43 AXygnus wrote: It's Obito. Half of the chapter will be a flashback. Half of his face is scarred. No, it's not. After the itachi vs sasuke fight he took sasuke back to his hideout and told him the "truth" about itachi. Before he did he partially took off his mask before it activated the amaterasu that itachi planted. There were no scars on the right side of his face which was the only side fully shown, and he mainly just looked like a somewhat older man with slight wrinkles under his eyes. Note that obito's right side is the side that was crushed by the rocks. Actually it is Obito. Evil posted his spoilers over on the narutoforums in the form of a code and and the deciphered text said, "Tobi is Obito with half old man face." So, yes, it is Obito. Evil has been very reliable with all of his spoilers every week, so you can trust him. Everyone on narutoforums.com is going ape shit over Evil's spoiler. Now it's only a debate of whether Obito's right side is just scarred, or if it is an aged face. Now this makes Minato look like an idiot. He got trashed talked, beat up, and mistook his 14 year old pupil to be Madara lol.
This better not be true because that is even more unrealistic and far fetched then the other ideas of how people became Tobi. If this is true then I am done with this manga! ;'(
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pretty cool
they never did actually explain how kakashi attained his mangekyo sharingan so it's all going to tie into this for those of you who say things that kishi doesn't plan things and just makes stuff up as he goes along
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