[Manga] Naruto - Page 482

On July 19 2012 06:42 Courthead wrote:
Tobi is NOT Tobirama Senju (the Second Hokage). Tobirama was the one who created the Impure World Resurrection technique, and Tobi barely even knew what it was -- he had to have Kabuto explain it to him. Not to mention the fact that Tobirama was already revived via that technique (meaning he must have been dead), and then sealed with the Shiki Fūjin.

Besides, I'm 90% sure that Sasuke and Orichmaru are going to attempt to unseal the previous Hokages. That's the only power that I can imagine meeting all the criteria described. Suigetsu said that whatever was on the scroll was strong enough to turn the tide of war -- the Hokages together would be. Plus Madara broke free from the Edo Tensei, so without the First Hokage appearing, I have no idea how he's going to be defeated. And Sasuke's goal is to learn about the beginnings of Konoha from one who knows everything, which is likely the First Hokage.

Finally, the hokages were sealed by the Shiki Fūjin, which so far has been referred to as impossible to escape from. Even Kabuto couldn't summon them. So it makes sense that Suigestu says, "Sasuke, you could figure it out," and Sasuke replies, "No, there are some things that only Orochimaru can do." And since Orochimaru first summoned the Hokages and witnessed them being sealed, it makes sense that he would have a scroll full of research in his lair to figure out how to get them back. When Sasuke hands Orochimaru the scroll in the last chapter, Oro even says, "What do you want to meet them for?"

If anyone has a better guess, let me know. But I think Sasuke is about to revive the First Hokage, if not the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

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Also, the things that Tobi said to Kakashi and Gai don't necessarily indicate that he knew them in the past. To Kakashi he said, "You always open your mouth so easily. It's no wonder you've lived a life of regret." The fact is that he's run into Kakashi 2-3 times now, plus Kakashi's story is a famous one, so he wouldn't have had to have known him as a child to say something like that.

As for Gai, he says, "You don't remember faces, so what point is there in telling you [who I am]?" You could interpret that to mean that Gai already knows him but wouldn't remember his face. But you could also interpret that to mean that Gai doesn't know him yet, but it's pointless to introduce himself because Gai will just forget.

That said, it's suspicious that Kishi had Gai ask Tobi's identity right after Tobi made that comment to Kakashi. It suggests that Kishi is hinting that Tobi really did know Kakashi personally. So maybe it is Obito after all?

Then again, we can't forget that whoever Tobi is, it has to be someone that knew Madara Uchiha. The first thing Madara thought after being resurrected was that Tobi+Nagato resurrected him. And he asked Kabuto if he was Tobi's follower.

One possibility that everyone is counting out is that Obito, himself, was a fake. Everyone is assuming that Obito had to have been some real 15 year old kid, and that if he is Tobi, he must have time traveled to get older. But what if the opposite is true -- that Obito was never young in the first place? I'm not saying this is true. I'm just pointing out that there are tons of plausible possibilities for who Tobi could be, and it's unlikely that we're going to guess them all. So it's premature to go around saying things like, "There has to be a plothole." We simply can't know yet.

On July 19 2012 13:38 Aerisky wrote:
Wow you guys are really investing some time/effort into figuring out who Tobi is. I'm mildly surprised Personally I'm way too lazy to care at this point. I figure eventually kishimoto will tell us anyway and I don't even care that much anymore lol.

@flamewheel: yeah I don't know why the hell middle-aged women's breasts were included. Maybe he just needed a rhyme.