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Wampaibist
United States478 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On July 22 2012 06:04 Wampaibist wrote: i think its someone from the saruTOBI clan i wonder how many characters in the manga have tobi in there name somewhere or could be rearanged to find tobi | ||
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~~Kyo~~
United States97 Posts
On July 22 2012 06:01 Forikorder wrote: 1. no i dont think there worth squat to the war 2. its unclear wether he would get both eyes back, he would get at least the one itachi took back but the one Danzo took might be too far back for him to get it back 3. yes genjutsu is something you can use to manipulate someone with jsut like how Sasuke manipulated giant snake dude to save himself from Deidaras kaboom and Madara and Sasuke have both used Genjutsu as interrogation 4. while it is possible to use Genjutsu to get the Kages to kill each other its pretty impossible to have the time to cast sucha strong genjutsu on one of the kages, and one of the toher kages would jsut dispel the genjutsu it's said that shisui's genjutsu is like reality and without a doubt, no one would notice it's technique to enter a person's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things on their own free will; the victim wouldn't even notice they were being manipulated. just like when the fox was manipulated or mizukage. and there's no way for someone to dispel the genjutsu since the 4th did some weird seal and had to touch tobi to release the genjutsu on the fox. i think it would be a nice twist to the manga if it was shisui. and if it was him, stuff about his past, how he became evil, relations with itachi, how he survived, etc. and besides, it's naruto, anything can happen. tobi is powerful and quick enough to cast a powerful genjutsu on anyone of the kages...o wait, he's not fighting the kages lol. but eh, he can cast it on guy or kakashi at least. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On July 22 2012 08:29 ~~Kyo~~ wrote: it's said that shisui's genjutsu is like reality and without a doubt, no one would notice it's technique to enter a person's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things on their own free will; the victim wouldn't even notice they were being manipulated. just like when the fox was manipulated or mizukage. and there's no way for someone to dispel the genjutsu since the 4th did some weird seal and had to touch tobi to release the genjutsu on the fox. i think it would be a nice twist to the manga if it was shisui. and if it was him, stuff about his past, how he became evil, relations with itachi, how he survived, etc. and besides, it's naruto, anything can happen. tobi is powerful and quick enough to cast a powerful genjutsu on anyone of the kages...o wait, he's not fighting the kages lol. but eh, he can cast it on guy or kakashi at least. Tobis manipulation of the 9 tailed fox is never explained at all and honestly doesnt make sense so you cant say that waht applies to that specific relationship applies to other, in every other use of genjutsu you only have to touch the victim also theres no evidence the Mizukage was at all manipulated in a shisui like fasion since Tobi kept to the shadows and had plenty of time to cast a powerful genjutsu upon him Shisuis genjutsu sets itself apart when your manipulating someone in broad daylight also Madara himself cast a genjutsu on the Raikage but could only paralyze him since he didnt have the time to do anything fancy and was easily countered by the other Kages so dont say Tobi can easily mind control people | ||
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~~Kyo~~
United States97 Posts
On July 22 2012 09:11 Forikorder wrote: Tobis manipulation of the 9 tailed fox is never explained at all and honestly doesnt make sense so you cant say that waht applies to that specific relationship applies to other, in every other use of genjutsu you only have to touch the victim also theres no evidence the Mizukage was at all manipulated in a shisui like fasion since Tobi kept to the shadows and had plenty of time to cast a powerful genjutsu upon him Shisuis genjutsu sets itself apart when your manipulating someone in broad daylight also Madara himself cast a genjutsu on the Raikage but could only paralyze him since he didnt have the time to do anything fancy and was easily countered by the other Kages so dont say Tobi can easily mind control people please read the manga again. tobi used his eye to manipulate the fox when he pulled it out from kushina. of course there's no evidence. this is just a guess and you're taking it seriously lol. i said i think it's shisui. and there's less evidence about shisui's powers except for his imba eye technique so why not take a shot at it being the genjutsu that manipulated the mizukage. ask the author on that. madara has the power to manipulate the raikage if he wanted to but instead, paralyzed him. the point is, we don't really know tobi's true strength is but he uses space/time ninjutsu and he's pretty much untouchable since every object goes through him. to me, he's in God mode right now, so i'm assuming at this point, he can easily cast genjutsu or whatever imba move he wants | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
please read the manga again. tobi used his eye to manipulate the fox when he pulled it out from kushina. and so could Sasuke and Madara, for some reason its been canonically stated that the 9 tails can be controlled by anyone with a sharingan, but its never explained why ask the author on that. madara has the power to manipulate the raikage if he wanted to but instead, paralyzed him. he didnt ahve the time, i think that the more you try to do with a genjutsu the more time it takes to set up so with the time Madara had all he could do was paralyze him but if he had more time he could have done more the point is, we don't really know tobi's true strength is but he uses space/time ninjutsu and he's pretty much untouchable since every object goes through him. to me, he's in God mode right now, so i'm assuming at this point, he can easily cast genjutsu or whatever imba move he wants yet Minato beat him... the genjutsu has requirements, you have to make eye contact with your opponent, they have to be in a certain range e.t.c also if your opponent has a sharingan they are resistant, plus agaisnt someone with a tailed beast any genjutsu can be instantly cancelled, so Bee and Naruto are immune, Kakashi is resistant to it and Guy is a master of anti-sharingan battle techniques | ||
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~~Kyo~~
United States97 Posts
On July 22 2012 09:33 Forikorder wrote: and so could Sasuke and Madara, for some reason its been canonically stated that the 9 tails can be controlled by anyone with a sharingan, but its never explained why he didnt ahve the time, i think that the more you try to do with a genjutsu the more time it takes to set up so with the time Madara had all he could do was paralyze him but if he had more time he could have done more yet Minato beat him... the genjutsu has requirements, you have to make eye contact with your opponent, they have to be in a certain range e.t.c also if your opponent has a sharingan they are resistant, plus agaisnt someone with a tailed beast any genjutsu can be instantly cancelled, so Bee and Naruto are immune, Kakashi is resistant to it and Guy is a master of anti-sharingan battle techniques well, at this point, the kages are worn out and can easily be beaten down by madara so...i don't see a chance of victory for them. i guess sharingan manipulation isn't needed. he's just gonna overwhelm them with imba mokuton garden no jutsu lol. well, bee and naruto can be immune but remember when kakashi was struct by the tsukuyomi by itachi? he said that for a sharingan vs sharingan battle, genjutsu wouldn't work but the mangekyosharingan>sharingan. and although guy is a master of anti-sharingan battles, he'll still have to be fighting the user by leg and arm movements right? remember the time when naruto got struct by a genjutsu when he saw itachi point at him? that. and that time, he only can use 30% of his chakra since it was a duplication jutsu that was passed down from nagato. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
well, bee and naruto can be immune but remember when kakashi was struct by the tsukuyomi by itachi? he said that for a sharingan vs sharingan battle, genjutsu wouldn't work but the mangekyosharingan>sharingan. Itachi has been shown to ahve the best Genjutsu in the series though and Tobi hasnt been shown to even have the Mangekyou Sharingan remember the time when naruto got struct by a genjutsu when he saw itachi point at him? that was when Kurama was still sulking, if Kurama wasnt sulking hed do exactly what 8 tails did when Bee got genjutsud | ||
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~~Kyo~~
United States97 Posts
and to think about it, when was the first time did itachi actually use his mangekyosharingan? it was to sasuke after itachi killed his parents. the way itachi acquired his MS was by killing shisui (was mentioned in the anime and manga) but i'm wondering if he "truly" awakened his MS when he killed both of his parents. cuz killing your best friend is equalvilant to killing your parents or much more. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On July 22 2012 13:27 ~~Kyo~~ wrote: now that makes me wonder. i wonder if shisui's kotoamatsukami will activate if he implanted 2 different sharingans ...most likely no, but will he still be able to perform strong eye techniques with it? we don't know. if it does, then tobi will be a perfect example since he's been plucking his eyes in and out(rinnegan and izanagi). and to think about it, when was the first time did itachi actually use his mangekyosharingan? it was to sasuke after itachi killed his parents. the way itachi acquired his MS was by killing shisui (was mentioned in the anime and manga) but i'm wondering if he "truly" awakened his MS when he killed both of his parents. cuz killing your best friend is equalvilant to killing your parents or much more. he might have awakened the MS anyway after killing his parents but he completely awakened it killing Shisui | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
http://www.mangahere.com/news/naruto-manga-to-go-on-longer-than-15-years/ | ||
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multiversed
United States233 Posts
On July 23 2012 22:35 Chexx wrote: some people will hate me for this early bump but here is something interesting to read http://www.mangahere.com/news/naruto-manga-to-go-on-longer-than-15-years/ great... | ||
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FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
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k!llua
Australia895 Posts
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Bond(i2)
Canada926 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On July 23 2012 22:35 Chexx wrote: some people will hate me for this early bump but here is something interesting to read http://www.mangahere.com/news/naruto-manga-to-go-on-longer-than-15-years/ this makes me worried, this arc seems like it could clear everything up aside from Sasuke and that could be cleared by a small 1v1 after this arc is over i dont see how hes going to continue the story and not make it feel stretched... | ||
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Courthead
United States246 Posts
This recent arc has been cramming too much conflict into too little space. I mean just think about how much fighting Naruto has done without so much as a breather:
Now he's got to fight Tobi to stop the Moon's Eye Plan from proceeding. And he's got a time limit, because the all-but-invincible resurrected Madara is coming to find him. Sure, Naruto has massive chakra and the 9-tails' chakra to fuel him, but enough is enough. Also, there are still 2-3 major unsolved mysteries in the show, not to mention many more unresolved conflicts. Naruto vs Sasuke. Sasuke vs his feelings. Sasuke vs Orochimaru. Naruto vs the resurrected Madara. Kabuto finding himself. Naruto becoming Hokage. The broken ninja world. Sakura's feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. Hinata's feelings for Naruto. Tsunade's and Kakashi's deaths, which have been foreshadowed numerous times. Naruto's fulfillment of his role as the So6P's successor. Solving the final mysteries of the Rinnegan and the Sharingan. Etc, etc. I'd prefer things to get their proper treatment than to get rushed and crammed together. And I, for one, am happy that simply defeating Tobi's Moon's Eye Plan bullshit is not going to be the finale of the series. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Fought against the resurrected Nagato and Itachi. i wouldnt count what he did to Itachi as fight, it would fair to say he only fought Nagato Also, there are still 2-3 major unsolved mysteries in the show such as? Naruto vs Sasuke. Sasuke vs his feelings. all can be cleared in one fight Naruto beats the stuffing out of Sasuke, Sasuke either dies hating Konoha or has magical epiphany and everyone goes home happy Sasuke vs Orochimaru already happened + Show Spoiler + sasuke won Naruto vs the resurrected Madara hell get deus ex machina away'd soon enough its literally impossible for Naruto to beat Madara since Madara can control the 9 tails Kabuto finding himself. could be solved in one or 2 panels pretty easily in the wrap up chapters show Kabuto with a bit of a monologue about forging his own path to the future Naruto becoming Hokage. The broken ninja world. only needs a couple chapters to clear this up, show Naruto get crowned Hokage, throw in some peace talks, a bit of a time skip Voila Sakura's feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. hopefully the Gedo steps on her or if Sasuke dies she goes down like Juliet for her romeo (but if Sasuke survives theyll probably get hitched... Hinata's feelings for Naruto. wont take much shes already confessed just need Narutos answer Tsunade's and Kakashi's deaths wait.... what? Naruto's fulfillment of his role as the So6P's successor. huh? Solving the final mysteries of the Rinnegan and the Sharingan there already explained, jsut needs to explain how Nagato got it Naruto VS Akatsuki has been the entire plot since the time skip, theres been nothing else, no hints of anything else just Naruto fighting the Akatsuki with some Sasuke emo boy thrown in its going to be hard to stop Tobi, introduce a new villain and have it make sense (as in not total asspull like the next chapter being all about stopping whatever Sasuke found in taht scroll) | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH + Show Spoiler + RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Im an idiot! Fuck :< | ||
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