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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
February 20 2017 12:14 GMT
#561
Looks like Gohan goes both ssj2 and mystic in the upcoming preview hope he doesn't get curb stomped
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
February 21 2017 09:17 GMT
#562
New chapter of the manga, I like it more than the anime (Goku seems less dumb and they pay extra attention in explaining some "plot-holes" of the anime).

Two major differences with the anime in this chapter :

+ Show Spoiler +
Current-time Gowasu gets (most probably) killed by Black. Also all humans except Trunk and Mai have been wiped out so in theory that would mean no genkidama-ken.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
February 21 2017 15:50 GMT
#563
Gohan loosing to increase his motivation for training and also increase the drama of Goku needing to win, is a good point and i was thinking it too.
But if Universe 9 loses 0-3, no matter how close and entertaining the fights went, could give Zeno an excuse to destroy Universe 9, which also means, there are only 8 Universes left for the big tournament. So, quarterfinals kinda. 9 participants isnt really working, assuming it is a "regular" tournament.
Also Gohan can barely do it, regaining some of his true potential, and still come to the conclusion: need more training. And this way it would be easier to end the fight without him being killed liked it was said, and the way back to his full power would be shorter, more logical, as it wont need all the training time to do that. Which shouldnt be multiple month. More weeks i guess.

Though all this "loser universe gets destroyed" seems very silly to me. At the end, there should be only one winner of a tournament, right? Which means every universe besides the one winning will be destroyed. Shortly after they are introduced, that they even exist, they are taken out already.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 21 2017 15:52 GMT
#564
There are 12 universes though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 21 2017 17:34 GMT
#565
There are 12 universes and I think it's fairly obvious that one of two things will happen.

1. Something happens that stops the tournament and maybe 1 or 2 universes get destroyed.

2. The more likely I think now, Universe 7 wins the tournament and Goku uses the Super Dragon Balls to wish back all the universes and people wiped out.


I don't see the tournament ending and every universe but 7 is destroyed.
When I think of something else, something will go here
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#566
On February 22 2017 02:34 blade55555 wrote:
There are 12 universes and I think it's fairly obvious that one of two things will happen.

1. Something happens that stops the tournament and maybe 1 or 2 universes get destroyed.

2. The more likely I think now, Universe 7 wins the tournament and Goku uses the Super Dragon Balls to wish back all the universes and people wiped out.


I don't see the tournament ending and every universe but 7 is destroyed.


1) would be decent, 2) would be incredibly boring

Let's hope the writers are better than 2)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 21 2017 17:39 GMT
#567
Hopefully some random universe survives, all other universes are genuinely wiped out, and nothing to undermine the stated conditions of the tournament happens.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 21 2017 17:41 GMT
#568
On February 22 2017 02:39 LegalLord wrote:
Hopefully some random universe survives, all other universes are genuinely wiped out, and nothing to undermine the stated conditions of the tournament happens.

I mean that would work too
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 18:43:30
February 21 2017 18:43 GMT
#569
The scenario I could think of that I liked the most (although I won't deny it's exceedingly unlikely) is that some Universe other than Universe 7 is victorious and whoever does win makes the wish to restore all Universes and their inhabitants, with the sole exception of Goku, who foolishly endangered all Universes.

And then Super learns to live without Goku for a while.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 21 2017 20:13 GMT
#570
Goku is simply a boring character (at this point). I would rather follow other (weaker) characters which have more depth and where the power scale isn't as absurd.
That's never gonna happen though. The introduction of all these universes, gods of destruction and even more powerful beings did hurt the potential quite a bit. I would really hope the can somehow scale it back, but that seems unlikely
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 21 2017 20:26 GMT
#571
It wouldn't be so bad if Goku didn't keep losing depth over the years. I swear he was a deeper character in the original Dragonball.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 21 2017 20:43 GMT
#572
Not sure actually, i don't remember much from dragonball
In general i think that the story doesn't take itself seriously and that seems quite weird whe you consider the scope we are dealing with. It hurts the tension quite a lot imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:16:10
February 21 2017 21:14 GMT
#573
On February 22 2017 05:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Not sure actually, i don't remember much from dragonball
In general i think that the story doesn't take itself seriously and that seems quite weird whe you consider the scope we are dealing with. It hurts the tension quite a lot imo.

I mean we could even take DBZ. Remember the simpler times when Goku was trying to get stronger to protect Earth? Not stronger to challenge more and more powerful opponents to see how far he can go without them destroying Earth? Can I get that Goku back?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 21 2017 21:17 GMT
#574
I mean, Goku in DBZ has always selfishly pursued stronger opponents. For the Buu saga this was obvious, but it was also true in the other two.

DB at times as well but it simply didn't come up as often. The example I can think of is how he fought Piccolo jr.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:31:03
February 21 2017 21:27 GMT
#575
On February 22 2017 06:17 LegalLord wrote:
I mean, Goku in DBZ has always selfishly pursued stronger opponents. For the Buu saga this was obvious, but it was also true in the other two.

DB at times as well but it simply didn't come up as often. The example I can think of is how he fought Piccolo jr.

True to an extent. But at the same time, it was never as bad as in Super. At least the Super anime. Especially the Super anime if you include the filler where he hires Hit to kill himself. Compare that to the Cell games where he gives up because he knows Cell is too strong for him and teleports exploding Cell away from Earth.

I mean for fuck's sake in Super he offered to spare Frieza. Again. After he invaded Earth, killed more of his friends and threatened to kill even more, and despite knowing that full power Golden Frieza was stronger than himself and would never stop being a heartless tyrant.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 21 2017 21:34 GMT
#576
Goku is certainly even more irresponsible now, I'll give you that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 21:43:39
February 21 2017 21:43 GMT
#577
Oh yeah there was also that time where Goku risked getting Earth swapped to another Universe because he wanted to see Monaka fight, wasn't there?


...


Can we just make an anime about the incredible adventures of Mr. Satan and his best friend Mr. Buu? That sounds like a fun story.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9055 Posts
February 21 2017 22:21 GMT
#578
Man. Elentos. You're saltier than this ramen I'm eating. Hilarious and very true, however sad that makes me.
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
February 21 2017 23:09 GMT
#579
On February 22 2017 06:34 LegalLord wrote:
Goku is certainly even more irresponsible now, I'll give you that.


He was always irresponsible and put fighting above all else. Letting Vegeta and Freeza live to have a rematch later on or giving Cell a senzu bean come to mind.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 22 2017 06:52 GMT
#580
On February 22 2017 08:09 maze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 06:34 LegalLord wrote:
Goku is certainly even more irresponsible now, I'll give you that.


He was always irresponsible and put fighting above all else. Letting Vegeta and Freeza live to have a rematch later on or giving Cell a senzu bean come to mind.

Good point actually. I still think it's the shift in tone from DBZ to Super which makes it more impactful tbh. The whole story doesn't get as serious as DBZ (at least i remember it that way)
I heard that this might be largely due to the dub though
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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