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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 03:08:30
October 15 2014 03:04 GMT
#1261
Rant on Blade Runner:

+ Show Spoiler +
I dont know about the Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep book but imo Blade runner is not that great for a movie but people loved it for the theme. The concept of such dystopian futuristic society that the movie introduced was simply way ahead of its time thus create a shock, provoking creativity in viewers. However in the 21st century, its pretty hard to re live such experience again as the concept has been talked about in many many movies and books.

The closest ones that should be mentioned first is definitely Ghost in the Shell. Both the original movies and the SAC series introduced a great range of views over a society where Android and Cyborg were widely popular and accepted among human. It raised a lot of questions about identities, individualities, existence and consciousness. What does it mean to be human when your physical bodies is replaced by mechanical parts? What do "living" and "dying" mean when your consciousness could be uploaded and stored in the virtual world, indestructible? What define individuality when most human race are connected via a network, sharing thoughts and making decisions as a whole single unit?
Follow ghost in the shell there are a lot that decided to expand on the same topic, most noteworthy is probably Matrix trilogy and the Matrix Animated series. But very recently a non-fiction, scientific book of Michio Kaku was also attempted to retrace the same route but with the assist of the latest technological advancement in neuroscience. Definitely check out The Future of the Mind if you wish to explore further.



That was human consciousness in a cyborg age. The other expansion from blade runner is android and AI exploration. It helped movies like A.I. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/, I Robot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/, Moon, 2001 Space odyssey(i know this came first), Transcendence.... Very interesting and highly underdeveloped topic about technological singularity with many many layers of complexity from every field of modern science research to computer science to psychology to philosophy. There are not that many good books about this that i know of but the topic is brought up every now and then in big tech Q/A sessions like the latest Facebook Oculus VR. Oh yeah the Ender's Games series also did a wonderful job of visualizing such structures and imagining its potential growth and impact.

Its funny because if you work in tech or in finance firms that is close to tech, you could notice how close things are to reach this point. We had a lot of advancement in material research as the mobile field developed. Fusion nuclear, which supposed to solve the power problem, is being pushed to construction phase and have gained a lot of investment in the last decades in research. Obama poured money into the brain initiative with all the alzheimer lobbies happening. AI field is rapidly growing with new GPU architectures. More importantly, it is directly assisting the DNA and brain studies while the neuro theorist studies is improving the AI construction (Redwood Center is definitely my watch right now). Things are convoluting, colliding. Its exciting and scary to live in this day and age.
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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 03:24:29
October 15 2014 03:23 GMT
#1262
Taipei is boring but brilliant. I don't like Lin's style that much but he captured perfectly the emptiness of modern life.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#1263
On October 15 2014 12:04 NB wrote:
Rant on Blade Runner:

+ Show Spoiler +
I dont know about the Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep book but imo Blade runner is not that great for a movie but people loved it for the theme. The concept of such dystopian futuristic society that the movie introduced was simply way ahead of its time thus create a shock, provoking creativity in viewers. However in the 21st century, its pretty hard to re live such experience again as the concept has been talked about in many many movies and books.

The closest ones that should be mentioned first is definitely Ghost in the Shell. Both the original movies and the SAC series introduced a great range of views over a society where Android and Cyborg were widely popular and accepted among human. It raised a lot of questions about identities, individualities, existence and consciousness. What does it mean to be human when your physical bodies is replaced by mechanical parts? What do "living" and "dying" mean when your consciousness could be uploaded and stored in the virtual world, indestructible? What define individuality when most human race are connected via a network, sharing thoughts and making decisions as a whole single unit?
Follow ghost in the shell there are a lot that decided to expand on the same topic, most noteworthy is probably Matrix trilogy and the Matrix Animated series. But very recently a non-fiction, scientific book of Michio Kaku was also attempted to retrace the same route but with the assist of the latest technological advancement in neuroscience. Definitely check out The Future of the Mind if you wish to explore further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XsXXD8iEyU

That was human consciousness in a cyborg age. The other expansion from blade runner is android and AI exploration. It helped movies like A.I. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/, I Robot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/, Moon, 2001 Space odyssey(i know this came first), Transcendence.... Very interesting and highly underdeveloped topic about technological singularity with many many layers of complexity from every field of modern science research to computer science to psychology to philosophy. There are not that many good books about this that i know of but the topic is brought up every now and then in big tech Q/A sessions like the latest Facebook Oculus VR. Oh yeah the Ender's Games series also did a wonderful job of visualizing such structures and imagining its potential growth and impact.

Its funny because if you work in tech or in finance firms that is close to tech, you could notice how close things are to reach this point. We had a lot of advancement in material research as the mobile field developed. Fusion nuclear, which supposed to solve the power problem, is being pushed to construction phase and have gained a lot of investment in the last decades in research. Obama poured money into the brain initiative with all the alzheimer lobbies happening. AI field is rapidly growing with new GPU architectures. More importantly, it is directly assisting the DNA and brain studies while the neuro theorist studies is improving the AI construction (Redwood Center is definitely my watch right now). Things are convoluting, colliding. Its exciting and scary to live in this day and age.


I think we are a long way from a general AI.

The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 15 2014 04:18 GMT
#1264
the easiest and cheapest way to create intelligence is, and always will be, to have a baby
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
October 15 2014 17:43 GMT
#1265
On October 15 2014 12:23 dmnum wrote:
Taipei is boring but brilliant. I don't like Lin's style that much but he captured perfectly the emptiness of modern life.


I was really bored while reading it, but at the same time i read it in like one day or two because it just flows away sort of. I ended up defending it in class because it was still way cooler than Gary Shteyngars super sad fuck story. I would never read it again but i dunno, i cant exactly say that taipei was bad.
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 17:46:49
October 15 2014 17:45 GMT
#1266
Blade Runner is a very smart and well-made movie, with beautiful music, brilliant actors and dialogue... and Harisson Ford's shirts.
Finally finished Schopenhauer. He's a funny guy, but I think he really wandered far away on many subject. Also life sucks, but not that much.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 01:05:47
October 17 2014 01:01 GMT
#1267
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si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 01:42:12
October 17 2014 01:34 GMT
#1268
Reading Macunaíma. Awesome, hilarious book, anyone interested in brazilian culture should read it(it may be hard to find though).
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 17 2014 02:38 GMT
#1269
also this. say hi to your dad for me farvacola

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si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18865 Posts
October 17 2014 02:49 GMT
#1270
Haha, enjoy that one.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 17 2014 05:18 GMT
#1271
i'm reporting on it for seminar
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 17 2014 18:58 GMT
#1272
Finished off Carol Berg's Transformation. Incredibly well-written for a first novel. I only really have three complaints about the whole book: 1.) pacing (I think certain things happened too fast near the end of the novel), 2.) Seyonne's revelation about Zander's importance could've been executed better (but I understand why she wrote it the way she did), and 3.) more explanation about what Catrin was doing there near the end, if her role is ultimately less important than it seems at first. I'm not sure why they kept Seyonne in the dark for so long about the "true plan," since I would've expected that would make it more difficult in the final confrontation.

Otherwise, very well-crafted book. It's one of those books where you generally know how it's gonna end, but you're along more for the ride than for the goal. The last scene is absolutely exquisite. Looking forward to the next book.

But first, taking on Zelazny's Roadmarks, 'cause it short, and the cover has "Last Exit to Babylon" written on it.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 17 2014 20:10 GMT
#1273
have you read Damnation Alley? best zelazny
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 17 2014 21:45 GMT
#1274
I haven't read much Zelazny, period. I picked up his first Amber book at a used bookstore and have been kind of sniffing around for more, but I haven't stumbled upon anymore copies. There were a ton of Zelazny sci-fi books at the book fair, but I picked the one with a dragon on the cover. ^^ I'm not that much of a fan of written sci-fi for some reason. (Love watching it though.)
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 17 2014 22:34 GMT
#1275
Most of it sucks
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17777 Posts
October 17 2014 23:10 GMT
#1276
On October 18 2014 07:34 bookwyrm wrote:
Most of it sucks


Zelazny or sci-fi?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 23:15:46
October 17 2014 23:15 GMT
#1277
Reading Memórias de um Sargento de Milícias(Memoirs of a Militia Sergeant). The only brazilian novel I read that was worth something during school was Dom Casmurro by Machado the Assis; the rest was mostly worthless shit or stuff in translation. I've read a bunch of Assis, Guimarães Rosa, Graciliano Ramos and some recent authors(Trevisan should be read more) but other than that I'm highly ignorant of our literature. Too bad portuguese language literature is so isolated, because honestly, our authors are fucking hilarious.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 17 2014 23:18 GMT
#1278
On October 18 2014 08:10 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2014 07:34 bookwyrm wrote:
Most of it sucks


Zelazny or sci-fi?


Well both :D but I meant zelazny
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 18 2014 00:06 GMT
#1279
I'm not that impressed with his writing yet. I'm under the impression that the Amber books were a big hit for him, but it seems he just happened to write the story that people wanted to read at the right time. Which is fine, just that I see a lot of other writers pull off that story and writing style better than he does himself.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
October 18 2014 00:09 GMT
#1280
the man's a two-bit hack. But Damnation Alley kicks ass
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
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