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jxx
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white_horse
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On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves. Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On August 18 2013 09:21 jxx wrote: OP's post is misleading, this isn't a series but just one SPECIAL. source? everywhere else saying it's goign to be a series based on the first 8 badges of the red version. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On August 18 2013 08:23 babylon wrote: Didn't Charizard lose Ash a match in the Pokemon League 'cause it didn't want to listen? Or am I bringing some manga lore into this? But honestly, Ash's Charizard is his most OP Pokemon. Goes toe-to-toe with legendaries. You're reminding me of the movie now. That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too. | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On August 18 2013 09:31 lokiM wrote: source? everywhere else saying it's goign to be a series based on the first 8 badges of the red version. It actually isn't clear atm which is the case. Notice the edit at the bottom of the OP guys. | ||
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
I was so damn excited, but now i read this will be just a special OVA. My faith in humanity is lost. Depression mode: ON | ||
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Kaoriyu
Canada276 Posts
 I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :O | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On August 18 2013 09:42 Epishade wrote: You're reminding me of the movie now. That was such a good movie. Who didn't cry when Ash died? (lol spoiler). And Charizard was so kickass there too. didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season) On August 18 2013 10:00 Kaoriyu wrote: Sorry for misleading you all I was just as disappointed as you all are when I found out it was just a TV special . Hopefully Nintendo will maybe change their minds if it's a big success :OEven if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On August 18 2013 10:04 Shock710 wrote: didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season) Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep Imagine if it's just flashbacks followed by 'well that was fun' :/ | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On August 18 2013 09:28 white_horse wrote: Whether or not "generic" rats are good pokemon design is based entirely on personal opinions. That said, first generations of anything capture the true spirit of whatever anime/cartoon/show, no? "Pokemon" in the latest generations look like something from mech genre animes and designs have been recycled to a degenerative point. That's what happens when you start beating the horse for money - which is why people who played with first or second generation pokemon have little affection for new generations because they don't feel the same anymore. The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On August 18 2013 10:04 Shock710 wrote: didnt ash's charizard suck compared to charizard trained in the wild (at that mountain range were just charizards fight carizards) Thats why ash doesnt have it anymore, stayed there to train. Did he get it back later? (it think this was in the silver/gold anime season) Even if its just a TV special how long does the ep go for? You can see him getting a pat from Lance (probably when hes wins) than the battle with green/blue (has a blastoise, but green clothes) so shouldnt it go up to at least the pokemon league, and also all the badges O_o seems like a lot of stuff to cover in one ep Ash currently has his charizard in the unova series. Honestly I kinda expect this to be bad due to gen 1's story / characters (Gary oak excluded) and pokemon design but hopefully I'm proven wrong (Also Squirtle is the best starter in gen 1 unless you use the glitch to skip Brock) | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On August 18 2013 10:20 Drazerk wrote: Ash currently has his charizard in the unova series. Honestly I kinda expect this to be bad due to gen 1's story / characters (Gary oak excluded) and pokemon design but hopefully I'm proven wrong (Also Squirtle is the best starter in gen 1 unless you use the glitch to skip Brock) I wish that they could have gary saying 'I'm Gary Motherfucking Oak' | ||
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TMG26
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 18 2013 10:16 Jaaaaasper wrote: The thing is that there have been some horrible pokemon designs and some good ones for every generation. Are you really telling me that pokemon like grimer ( a pile of grime) or seel ( a seal) is better than the new pokemon? And speaking of something out of a mecha anime Have you look at things like steelix from gen 2 or magneton from gen1? And a snake pokemon names ekans? Every generation has its ups and downs and over used themes. I played the originals on release and continue to like the new ones. Its nostalgia that causes these opinions not actual factual basis. Gen1 is probably the worst in regards to generic designs, but we played it as little kids for the most part, so its harder for us to take a hard look at it. Milking a formula that works is what happens in every genre from every developer, and game freak is better than a lot of the repeat offenders out there. And when ever the developers try something new that is nothing like the older games, the same people who bash them for "recycling " pokemon designs jump on them because it doesn't feel like the old games. You don't have to play the new ones, but stop holding gen 1 on a pedestal while ignoring its own blatant flaws. Gen 1 and 2 had the least cringeworthy designs imho. Yes, a lot of them were flat-out unimaginative, but at the same time, they looked fairly natural for the most part because they were so unimaginative. Many of the Pokemon in the successive generations (especially after Gen 2) look ridiculous. And I also second the rec for Pokemon Special. The art is surprisingly nice on the eyes, and Red is awesome. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 18 2013 05:00 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ohh please every generation of Pokemon has its good and bad designs. Are you really telling me that with pokemon like muk and a generic rat and seel and a upside down pokeball that gen 1 was perfect in pokemon design? Every generation has its good and bad pokemon designs, and its pure nostalgia that makes people hold gen 1 on a pedestal. Yes gen 1 was good, but it was not better or worse in Pokemon design than any of the others. That being said, I am glad to see a anime with out red instead of ash, because ash gets on my nerves. hmm I dunno if I agree. While yes, its true that every generation can have good and bad designs, the first generation is what the game developers were aiming for. To them at the time, they had no clue how well the idea would catch on, if it will be liked etc... in other words, they poured everything they had and more into making pokemon the best it can be so that people can like them and buy the games etc... Once pokemon caught on fire, they started releasing more generations. It's true that some pokemon like seel and voltorb etc... are hardly imaginative and are rather simple by design since they resemble real world animals/objects etc... but I don't think that deters away from the experience. To me at least, it seems that once pokemon was popular, they released more generations for the sake of milking the franchise but again, my opinion. I've played both first and second generation and loved all six editions(even though red/blue and gold/silver were similar). I found that the simplicity in some pokemon was welcomed while in other cases, it was nice seeing some rather complex pokemon. I tried the later versions to see what it was like but after playing some of them for a while, I just couldn't get over how much it changed. Part of that is probably nostalgia and having grown up from those days. Another part could be that I couldn't get used to the changes and heck, even with the second generation, it already felt like the franchise was getting jam packed with pokemon. Would've preferred if they kept the 251 pokemon(or original 151) and made more regions, varied up the story etc... and possibly add a bit more pokemon but nowhere near the amount that is currently in the game in the versions that are out. Anyways, I'm still excited for this lol. I do hope that this OVA lasts for several episodes at an hour per episode or so so that we get more time to enjoy our past time games : ) | ||
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3FFA
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VayneAuthority
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