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hoot00
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States77 Posts
April 21 2013 23:48 GMT
#61
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now
LEGENDS NEVER GG
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#62
On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now

There are plenty of rappers better than them, they're just up and coming.
liftlift > tsm
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:14:03
April 22 2013 00:12 GMT
#63
Any Grandmaster Flash fans here?

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hoot00
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States77 Posts
April 22 2013 00:33 GMT
#64
On April 22 2013 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
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On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now

There are plenty of rappers better than them, they're just up and coming.


When I say "In the game", I mean current rappers. I don't think there are many current rappers that can compete. You might be right gimme some examples
LEGENDS NEVER GG
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 22 2013 01:07 GMT
#65
On April 22 2013 09:33 hoot00 wrote:
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On April 22 2013 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now

There are plenty of rappers better than them, they're just up and coming.


When I say "In the game", I mean current rappers. I don't think there are many current rappers that can compete. You might be right gimme some examples


Some examples of better rappers imo

Big K.R.I.T - WTF
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Freddie Gibbs - Natural High (Even Higher Learning)
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Schoolboy Q - There He Go
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:53:08
April 22 2013 01:37 GMT
#66
Yay hip hop. When I was young, I would only listen to alternative rock type music and put down hip hop. I had a friend though, he was persistent, and showed me the ways. Now hip hop is one of my favorite genres, and I swore to keep an open mind towards all art.

Doom remains one of my favorite From his most recent album:


Not his best, but better than average these days.

On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now


Idk, I don't like them that much, I guess they are relevant, but it's a different style to say CunninLynguists, Big Boi, Big Krit, Killer Mike, Shabazz, Gibbs, Madlib and all the older dudes like Doom who are still very relevent. They fit in a different category for me, with Kanye and stuff. Too white I think. Culture-wise. I hope you know what I mean.
Try another route paperboy.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
April 22 2013 02:30 GMT
#67
On April 22 2013 07:03 Juliette wrote:
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On April 22 2013 06:51 andyrau wrote:

Graduation was a pretty big fluff piece imo. It's one of his albums that appeals to the mainstream and not too many tracks that are actually significant.
College Dropout and Late Registration imo probably set the bar for mainstream alt hiphop in the past decade. Yeezy will never make another album like either again, unfortunately.
I mean, sure, MBDTF was a great material and probably aoty, but for some reason I was never that impressed with the album as I was with his earlier works. I'd probably rank it a tiny bit under Late Registration.
I think part of the reason why I found it underwhelming was because most of the tracks had already been released or partially released several months earlier through his GOOD Friday campaign.

wow MBDTF under late registration? maybe i owe LR another listen but I thought it the former was out of this world. mostly because i like the style and sound better personally, and his take on the contemporary shit (similar to WTT) is just >>>>>>>. i like his confidence and braggaciado. i should listen to more childish gambino but i never liked what i heard

Speaking of, A$ap rocky's album is very good if you're into that. I mean, it's not the best thing ever but he switches styles like no other.

also i'm not big into underground rap like this thread/most internet discussions seem to be. not to jump on an old discussion but it just kinda bores me most of the time. maybe because they're mostly up and coming and aren't developed, but even immortal tech is just meh to me. case in point, i like Take Care drake better than Room for Improvement drake. maybe its just me

and to jump in on this

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On April 16 2013 01:55 MCDayC wrote:
Whats also worth noting is that mainstream hip hop is also at its least explicit its ever been. Its still has its bastions of stupidity, but relative to even 10 years ago hip hop is far less homophobic, and far less likely to promote gangsterisms. Sexism is still a major issue, and still makes otherwise good commerical cringe worthy, in general mainstream hip hop is definitely making improvemetns.

i feel that a lot of that has to do with the fact that a lot of rappers are coming up on the internet and havent been involved in gangs and the like. theres still a lot of trash out there though


Yeah it's not the 80s/90s anymore. Gangsta rap is old news. No more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jheri_curl (Ice Cube + Eazy E etc)

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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 22 2013 03:23 GMT
#68
I'm going to have to agree with skullflower, Long Live A$AP was pretty much a wash for me. Typically people don't really listen to Rocky for his lyrical prowess, you do it for his sick beats, sampling, and production. His mixtape pretty much summed up whatever style he could bring to the game, so his album was just an amalgamation of some recycled beats/concepts and some mediocre flow coupled with random name dropping, something which everyone from Hov to fucking Pitbull could do. When you couple that with the fact that nobody in A$AP Mob outside of Rocky can rap, it makes for a pretty shoddy debut album.
I'll admit that I was pretty impressed with Live Love A$AP, but then again most of the good tracks on that album were produced by The Alchemist or Clams Casino so I'm not even sure what that says about Rocky other than he knows how to dress and hire good producers.
Speaking of which, Domo Genesis & The Alchemist mixtape was pretty good, I'd encourage people to check that out.

On April 22 2013 09:33 hoot00 wrote:
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On April 22 2013 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now

There are plenty of rappers better than them, they're just up and coming.


When I say "In the game", I mean current rappers.  I don't think there are many current rappers that can compete.  You might be right gimme some examples

NAS
nuff said

oh and I guess Earl, Joey Badass, Common, Ab Soul, Jay Rock, Big KRIT, Big Boi, etc etc
hm I put a lot of odd future members in there, lol

srs though macklemore is whack shit.
kendrick as one of the best rappers in the game I can live with.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Ayjinn
Profile Joined April 2013
United States7 Posts
April 22 2013 03:53 GMT
#69
Pretty dope album, you guys should check him out
USA
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
April 22 2013 03:56 GMT
#70
On April 22 2013 08:48 hoot00 wrote:
I think Kendrick Lamar and Macklemore are two of the best rappers in the game right now

lmao macklemore

saw joey badass, pro era, flatbush zombies and underachievers last night. It was pretty dope.
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:05:21
April 22 2013 04:04 GMT
#71
I feel like everyone in this thread is way more knowledgeable than me, haha.

As for Kanye, why no love for 808's and Heartbreak? Sad album, but probably my favorite of his.

Found this a few days ago:

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If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:34:25
April 22 2013 04:20 GMT
#72


Definitely listen to some CYNE; easily one of my fav groups.
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Also just found out about windchILL, pretty good stuff.
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Definitely listen to some Dr. Octagon; quirky as fuck, and pretty awesome stuff.
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Deltron 3030 100% worth listening to. One of the best albums hands down.
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
April 22 2013 04:46 GMT
#73
On April 17 2013 22:07 KvltMan wrote:
Found this today on /r/hhh today, and god damn it's a banger.

Das Racist - Indians From all Directions Prod. A Tribe Called Red
https://soundcloud.com/a-tribe-called-red/a-tribe-called-red-das/

Apparently DR broke up whilst they were recording their 2nd album and Red decided to publish it anyway. Makes me sad to know that we'll never get more DR albums, because their tapes were seriously AOTY material. Then again, HEEM's solo work is also really impressive, especially "Nehru Jackets".

The thing that was awesome about DR is their willingness to do absolutely fucking crazy stuff with their music. For example:


I haven't seen any alternative hip-hop in here so it's about time to get that started. K-os and K'naan are my favourites by far:

K'naan(My username comes from his full name, K'naan Abdi Warsame)





K-os





And more of this would be posted if it wouldn't clog up the thread.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
April 22 2013 05:03 GMT
#74
Didn't see anything about Watsky, which isn't surprising because he isn't a big name yet, but he is really entertaining in my opinion.

A few songs I particularly like:
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He may not be exceptionally "rappy," but he is very genuine in all of his music and doesn't just copy whatever is hot at the moment. His personality comes through quite strong and I find it to be very refreshing and enthralling. Hope someone else here enjoys him even a little bit
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 09:11:37
April 22 2013 09:10 GMT
#75
Oh finally TL gets a hip hop/rap discussion thread. About damn time. Kudos to you OP, for making the thread.

I love me some Kendrick Lamar and his unique sound; he's a breath of fresh air to the scene. He's just gonna get bigger and bigger in popularity as the years go by. Swimming Pools (Drank) is a damn addicting song. He's got a lot of potential, along with Childish Gambino.

I also agree with those who said Big K.R.I.T. is also one of the biggest upcoming new talents. He's the shit... (pause) Country Shit that is. That's a goddamn banger of a song. I like how he seems to have proper respect for the old school pioneers who paved the way instead of the idiotic "Ey yooo I run dis rap shit nowww I invented hip hop, big booty hoe bitches and swag b yolooo" shit that a lot of trash new rappers spout. (Sorry Kendrick, but you also fall victim to rapping about big booty hoes and being famous and all that. Should cut back on that shit.)

Since I'm studying linguistics as well, I'm almost obligated to shout out my love for CunninLynguists, along with my admiration for Eminem's talent of bending words to make them rhyme and use of multisyllabic rhymes. Although I don't like most of the content from Eminem's lyrics, the way he executes them is simply genius.

Also, respect to Frank Ocean to being one of the first hip hop artists to come out of the closet and have the balls to talk about his bisexuality. His stuff is great.

And since I'm from the Bay Area, I will always love me some Bay hip hop/rap, awww yeah hyphy movement represennnt



This shit still go hard and always will. A true Bay classic right here.

Btw, if reading a hip hop/rap review blog that mostly bashes on the biggest upcoming rappers of today in an absolutely hilarious satirical way sounds remotely interesting to you, you should check out http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/. The way the blogger words and delivers their insults is pure gold. I especially like how the blogger shares my hate for Drake, aka Aubrey aka Male Duck aka Young Garnier Fructis. Here's a quote of one of his many poetic insults towards Drake (still worth reading if you like Drake):

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"Aka the Ryan Seacrest of rap. Son is the safest nigga on earth. This the type a NAHGGER that old rich white men try to set up wit they daughters n shit. This nigga wasnt born yo....he was blossomed. When he aint startin pillow fights on tour n pollinatin flowers n shit son stays spittin wit that tenderized Stephen Hawking voice. The niggas heart got a ponytail. Son could probably make you any origami animal you ask him to namsayin. He the type a nigga to sprinkle rose pedals on his bed before he go to sleep n shit. Son could probably frost a cake usin his eyes nahmean. This niggas moms n pops basically got Rick Rolled when the doctor said "Its a boy!" But it aint like Tone wanna see the nigga get torn to pieces by a pack a wolves n shit. If I seen him would the god wanna beat the garnier fructis outta him? I dont kno b. Maybe?"
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 22 2013 10:18 GMT
#76
yo Drizzy gonna swoop in on a magic carpet made of Maxi Pads and murk your ass with his gigantic white iPhone for slandering his good name
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 10:37:42
April 22 2013 10:35 GMT
#77
On April 22 2013 19:18 andyrau wrote:
yo Drizzy gonna swoop in on a magic carpet made of Maxi Pads and murk your ass with his gigantic white iPhone for slandering his good name

Nah, Drizzy got more problems to deal with such as plotting what sharp objects to throw next at Breezy and promoting a new women's clothing line in Canada with the Biebz
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 22 2013 21:12 GMT
#78
On April 22 2013 06:51 andyrau wrote:
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On April 22 2013 06:22 MCDayC wrote:
On April 21 2013 07:44 TNK wrote:
What do you guys think of Kanye West specifically his albums The College dropout, Late Registration, and My Beautiful Dark Twist Fantasy? I know he is a massive asshole but I think he may have made some of the best Hip Hop albums around.

I fucking love Kanye West's music, though my favourite album by him is probably Graduation, it was the first hip hop album I ever got into or bought. All of the above are incredible though.

Graduation was a pretty big fluff piece imo. It's one of his albums that appeals to the mainstream and not too many tracks that are actually significant.
College Dropout and Late Registration imo probably set the bar for mainstream alt hiphop in the past decade. Yeezy will never make another album like either again, unfortunately.


In your opinion

I heartily disagree that it lacks significant tracks. Even the singles bar good life are significant either for content or production.

And songs like I wonder, Everything I am, Flashing Lights and Can't Tell Me Nothing are all great, and as good as anything he put out on Late Registration or College Dropout.
Plus The Glory bangs hard ;P

I think that MBDTF and Graduation are both better than College Dropout and Late Registration (though its insanely close with late registration and them, all 3 are incredible), I disagree that he hasn't been able to improve on them.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
April 22 2013 21:17 GMT
#79
On April 22 2013 13:04 jeeeeohn wrote:
I feel like everyone in this thread is way more knowledgeable than me, haha.

As for Kanye, why no love for 808's and Heartbreak? Sad album, but probably my favorite of his.


I liked it for listening but it wasn't one of his best vocally. Although his production on it is ridiculous.

I'm a big fan of drake unlike many here :p.

I have a big split between rapping ability and ability to make music. It's like, Nas, who is a fantastic rapper, but sometimes can't put together an amazing album worthy of his rapping skill. So while Drake or something isn't always the best rapper his music sounds good, I can listen to it over and over again, and I have fun playing it.

I consider albums as "good" if i can loop it over and over again without being bored, mostly cause I almost always have music playing. So for me, Graduation can go on that list cause there's always a level of depth I can listen to, whether its his words, production, flow, or the little samples thrown in.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 21:37:38
April 22 2013 21:37 GMT
#80
On April 23 2013 06:17 Juliette wrote:
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On April 22 2013 13:04 jeeeeohn wrote:
I feel like everyone in this thread is way more knowledgeable than me, haha.

As for Kanye, why no love for 808's and Heartbreak? Sad album, but probably my favorite of his.


I liked it for listening but it wasn't one of his best vocally. Although his production on it is ridiculous.

I'm a big fan of drake unlike many here :p.

I have a big split between rapping ability and ability to make music. It's like, Nas, who is a fantastic rapper, but sometimes can't put together an amazing album worthy of his rapping skill. So while Drake or something isn't always the best rapper his music sounds good, I can listen to it over and over again, and I have fun playing it.

I consider albums as "good" if i can loop it over and over again without being bored, mostly cause I almost always have music playing. So for me, Graduation can go on that list cause there's always a level of depth I can listen to, whether its his words, production, flow, or the little samples thrown in.

I'm not a huge Drake but I agree with you completely overall.
Nas gets so much hype, and while I can appreciate his lyricism, I'm almost never imprssed with his albums.
He seems almost hilariously music deaf, and has the rare ability to bring the worst out the otherwise talented producers he works.

Music in hip-hop matters hugely, and I love a good lyrical artist. But it needs to be paired good beats, otherwise it means nothing to me.

Its also why Jay-Z>>>Nas to me. Jay-Z, even at his most commercial makes fantastic production choices, consistently across albums, whereas Nas makes horrible ones:

When Jay-Z makes a commercial song he still manages to sound genuine and makes epic (in the most literal sense) songs like Empire State of Mind, whereas Nas makes cynical and terrible shit like this:
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