EPT[Netflix] House of Cards - Page 7
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On February 16 2014 02:41 Takuma wrote: Why must they make the president such an obvious retard? yea, it bothers me as well that the president is so weak and easily manipulated (watched up to episode 7/chapter 20). | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On February 16 2014 03:36 caelym wrote: yea, it bothers me as well that the president is so weak and easily manipulated (watched up to episode 7/chapter 20). i think this was explained in season 1. It was created after Obama's image: young, confident and was voted as a token of HOPE. This means that he gona rely a lot on people around him to get things going: the congress, the senates votes are all driven by senior leaders with credibility and respect. + Show Spoiler + But with all the excuses, I agree that it was a weak role. I wish they would cut the Rachel part of the story entirely to improve the President role a bit more. Afterall the Rachel+Doug storyline was too separate from the main plot. Some reddit users even suspected that they left her there to get more women watching the show which kinda make sense if you think about it. May be they gona redeem themselves in season 3, who know. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Again i feel like the plot was constructed better for the first half of the season and it went fairly mediocre towards the end. Like the last two episodes were so underwhelming. + Show Spoiler + Hope doug didnt die  The wtf moments of this season lol + Show Spoiler + Threesome and lesbo sex scene. WTF lol. i was confused by them but not excited/aroused at all. Overall i think it is better than season1 because I really dislike the zoe trio near the end of season1 so much. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13859 Posts
I don't think doug will die. It seems to be a pretty obvious reference to The west wing when leo had a heart attack at camp david but survived. It did lose a bit of steam in the last couple episodes and it got werid at points but I think that it still had decent enough momentum from the first 9 or so episodes. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
the threesome LOL I didn't know what to think. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:13 BurningSera wrote: i finished the whole season in 1 day, netflix is just a heaven man! Again i feel like the plot was constructed better for the first half of the season and it went fairly mediocre towards the end. Like the last two episodes were so underwhelming. + Show Spoiler + Hope doug didnt die The wtf moments of this season lol + Show Spoiler + Threesome and lesbo sex scene. WTF lol. i was confused by them but not excited/aroused at all. Overall i think it is better than season1 because I really dislike the zoe trio near the end of season1 so much. yeah... both the Feng intro and later were hauntingly cringe x(... Im still trying to erase that parts out of my memory x( | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On February 16 2014 13:55 Zax19 wrote: The first episode was great but the rest of the season 2 not so much. Less tension and less of the interesting 4th wall breaking. Overall a decent show, especially thanks to the release schedule, but the second season is dragging it down (I don't mind the outcome, just the execution). I didn't notice the 4th wall stuff as much + Show Spoiler + in episode one I completely forgot they hadn't done it once till he does it but damn that might be my favorite 4th wall moment ever it was fucking cold blooded | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
On February 16 2014 16:49 bourne117 wrote: I didn't notice the 4th wall stuff as much + Show Spoiler + in episode one I completely forgot they hadn't done it once till he does it but damn that might be my favorite 4th wall moment ever it was fucking cold blooded Yep, it was great. What I meant is that the first season was full of the 4th wall stuff and Spacey made it work really well. Aside from worse execution of the plot It lost a bit of the charm the first season had. It was still good, I'd say first season 8/10 and second season 6/10, just that it's a shame they couldn't keep it up  . Now I'm a bit worried they decided to run a third season which wasn't tha plan... | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Although it was a little underwhelming at the end, it was more of a wrapping up the hard work that's been done. I kind of appreciate how it slowed down at the end. It also makes it easier to wait for the next season. Season 2 was better, because Frank had a lot more power now, and he had to wield this power a smart way. Frank had a lot more to lose, but he just kept on pushing it. I had no idea this show could be better for me, then the first season. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I have to say that I was disappointed. My biggest criticism is that Frank had too much plot armor and the journey was too easy. Sure the risks were big but you knew he would win and have the perfect riposte to whatever was thrown at him. They showed some of the wounds that Claire suffered which was good but Frank was virtually unscathed. My second biggest criticism is that once Zoe was gone there was no one to fill her role as Frank's foil. Elements of her role was filled by Jackie but she was no where near as big a character as Zoe was. The lack of a "Zoe" makes the show feel imbalanced and adds to my first criticism that Frank is too close to omnipotent. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13859 Posts
On February 16 2014 19:53 caelym wrote: Just finished. Thoughts on the whole season. + Show Spoiler + I have to say that I was disappointed. My biggest criticism is that Frank had too much plot armor and the journey was too easy. Sure the risks were big but you knew he would win and have the perfect riposte to whatever was thrown at him. They showed some of the wounds that Claire suffered which was good but Frank was virtually unscathed. My second biggest criticism is that once Zoe was gone there was no one to fill her role as Frank's foil. Elements of her role was filled by Jackie but she was no where near as big a character as Zoe was. The lack of a "Zoe" makes the show feel imbalanced and adds to my first criticism that Frank is too close to omnipotent. + Show Spoiler + This season seemed to portray frank as a lot more vulnerable and less powerful then he was in season 1. Everything in the last episode seemed like one giant joker like plan. I legitimately was wondering what was going to happen up to the very second tusk said that walker knew. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On February 17 2014 03:23 Sermokala wrote: + Show Spoiler + This season seemed to portray frank as a lot more vulnerable and less powerful then he was in season 1. Everything in the last episode seemed like one giant joker like plan. I legitimately was wondering what was going to happen up to the very second tusk said that walker knew. + Show Spoiler + I thought the get president impeached plan was obvious towards the end. The only mystery was how he was going to save his own ass, and of course he manipulates the president without any effort and comes out without a scratch. He took bigger risks and consequently the fall was greater, however it didn't seem to me that he had any chance of failing. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On February 16 2014 13:55 Zax19 wrote: The first episode was great but the rest of the season 2 not so much. Less tension and less of the interesting 4th wall breaking. Overall a decent show, especially thanks to the release schedule, but the second season is dragging it down (I don't mind the outcome, just the execution). Less 4th wall breaking is noticeable but I prefer to think of it as FU became VP so it restricts him from his freedom of communication. The decrease of 4th wall breaking also shows how sacred information are thus increase the mental pressure on the show. Lastly, it makes to story more spread out, giving room for other characters to grow than just focus solely on FU. Earlier in this thread someone brought up the comparison between House of Cards and Death Note and this is completely identical. In 'arc 2'(where L reveals) of the story in Death Note, you also see the story became much more expansive instead of focusing on the main character alone. | ||
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FluffyBinLaden
United States527 Posts
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
Of course it's an important link to FU, but compared to all the other shit he's done, it seems like a minor thing to keep in the show. | ||
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