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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
There just has to be! | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On September 10 2016 03:28 Hyperbola wrote: There has to be a fourth wall keeping all the titans in. There just has to be! The goal of the series becomes the remaining 9 trying desperately to break the 4th wall, haha. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
and yes i have to rub it in, I TOLD YOU SO! wahhahaa i wasn't right on everything, but i think i'm close in my deduction. i'd like to revise my prediction, the wall is more or less like a mini north korea ironically. If we start to look at it from this perspective, everything basically makes sense heading forward. seen with the impression that the wall is more or less a north korea and those in power. The MP police and the royal family work in unison to keep the masses ignorant. Now this is where my prediction ends, did they do it for the sake of humanity or did they do it to keep the wealthy in power? I fear when we discover the truth, it will be a little bit of both. from the direction that the story is heading, it seems like the author wants to point to us that, the wall is an isolated country, the propaganda? we are the last of our own kind thus we must band together and believe in your government to protect you from the "big bad guys" which is why they are trying so hard to misdirect the public, even to the extent of not disclosing the actual history. The small intelligent few started questioning the educational system, and this put a wrench in the plans of those in power. thus the creation of the survey corps, it's logical to conclude the guys in the upper echelon were probably thinking, hey let them have their little brigade, they'll just die outside anyway and stop asking questions. But they succeeded and are now unmasking everything at a pace they did not anticipate. It's clear as day that the wall is majorly primitive as far as their technological advancement goes. well, due to resources but we can now clearly say that it was on purpose, and tech was even hidden from society. i infer that the 3 books will be about the following, based on the contents of the first book. 1. here is proof that humanity exist abundantly outside of the wall 2. perhaps the history of why the wall was developed, how the system/govt inside the wall is corrupt 3. how to locate us the society on the other side is clearly more technologically advanced due to proof of the photograph and the unmasking of tech contents when they raided the royal family. which implies that, the other side coexist with titans and or there is another wall like city. there cannot be technological advancement if there was not peace and limited resources along with an abundant of population prospering. i'm actually starting to think the real bad guys aren't the intruders but what the wall represents. Reiner has conflicting view points in regards to his mission which shows he's not psychopathic and cold-hearted. i'm starting to think every time berthold came to visit the wall it was more or less a political statement along the lines of "we exist, and we want everyone to see that titans are not all brutes but evolution of mankind" in fact the titans sent to the wall were probably an attempt to liberate them from the brain washing so to speak. But their loyalty to the wall and their ignorance makes them believe without question that these guys are out to kill everyone. it would be the same thing that happens if USA tried to intervene and let NK have freedom, we'd still be seen as the oppressors. technologically advanced guys who don't use their knowledge to benefit us but attack us! look! they're bullies! i'm actually excited, i can't wait till we see what's actually on the horizon and what the other advanced countries/villages, look like. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
In that context, the human titans wouldn't be seen as bullies but mass murderers on par with any historical war criminals. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 13 2016 04:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Normally people don't make friendly political statements by eating them and regurtitating them back up again. Normally people don't liberate people by forcibly reducing their land by half, forcing a third of the population to starve and then be thrown away into a horrible suicide mission. In that context, the human titans wouldn't be seen as bullies but mass murderers on par with any historical war criminals. exactly the warriors are elgitimately trying to wipe out all of humanity inside the walls | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On September 10 2016 03:28 Hyperbola wrote: There has to be a fourth wall keeping all the titans in. There just has to be! sick | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On September 13 2016 04:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Normally people don't make friendly political statements by eating them and regurtitating them back up again. Normally people don't liberate people by forcibly reducing their land by half, forcing a third of the population to starve and then be thrown away into a horrible suicide mission. In that context, the human titans wouldn't be seen as bullies but mass murderers on par with any historical war criminals. I think they were just trying to force Grisha/the coordinate out of hiding. And to be honest they succeeded both times, even when Grisha hid it inside Eren, which should have been impossible to locate. As for the war criminal part... The victors get to define who's a hero and who's the villain. Was Odysseus a war criminal for using the Trojan horse to bring down Troy's walls? I'm super stoked to see where the story will go now. Hopefully all the fans will start to come back as the story heats up again. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
we knew that there has always been human outside the wall (the decryption of the tankobon that I posted in page13 of this thread), so it is not surprised to see that the people from outside world is still surviving/happily | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 14 2016 04:56 Hyperbola wrote: I think they were just trying to force Grisha/the coordinate out of hiding. And to be honest they succeeded both times, even when Grisha hid it inside Eren, which should have been impossible to locate. As for the war criminal part... The victors get to define who's a hero and who's the villain. Was Odysseus a war criminal for using the Trojan horse to bring down Troy's walls? I'm super stoked to see where the story will go now. Hopefully all the fans will start to come back as the story heats up again. thats not really a fair comparison, theres no global court back in ancient greece that defines whats OK and not OK in war i dont get what you mean by both times though they only justy learned who had the coordinate recently | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
As for who is a villian or hero? What does being a victor have to do with it. It has been pretty clear at the moment that both the human titans and the former government are shades of grey or are just plain villains, being willing to kill people for whatever ideals they have, be it mysterious in the case of the former or to keep themselves in power in the latter. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On September 14 2016 16:21 Forikorder wrote: thats not really a fair comparison, theres no global court back in ancient greece that defines whats OK and not OK in war i dont get what you mean by both times though they only justy learned who had the coordinate recently On the assumption that the warriors' objective was to locate the coordinate and/or find Grisha, breaking the walls was a smart move to expedite the process. If the shifters snuck in and blended into society, it would take decades to find either of their objectives. They forced everyone's hand by creating a catastrophe. I think Grisha knew where the coordinate was and was simply waiting for an opportunity. Once he learned that the warriors were after him, he had to get to the coordinate first. Had he not killed the Reiss girl, the shifters would have found her and taken the coordinate. Grisha also knew that sooner or later the shifters would come after him so he hid the coordinate in Eren. It worked for years until the shifters either got impatient or got orders to break down the second wall to once again flush Grisha or Reiss out. They wound up finding out about Eren and decided to question/kidnap him... Only to find out he had the coordinate as well. So if you look at it that way, breaking the walls was a very smart move to finish the mission. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
Maybe the shifters are there to gain the coordinate to be able to use titans as a weapon elsewhere, who knows. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 15 2016 03:41 Hyperbola wrote: On the assumption that the warriors' objective was to locate the coordinate and/or find Grisha, breaking the walls was a smart move to expedite the process. If the shifters snuck in and blended into society, it would take decades to find either of their objectives. They forced everyone's hand by creating a catastrophe. I think Grisha knew where the coordinate was and was simply waiting for an opportunity. Once he learned that the warriors were after him, he had to get to the coordinate first. Had he not killed the Reiss girl, the shifters would have found her and taken the coordinate. Grisha also knew that sooner or later the shifters would come after him so he hid the coordinate in Eren. It worked for years until the shifters either got impatient or got orders to break down the second wall to once again flush Grisha or Reiss out. They wound up finding out about Eren and decided to question/kidnap him... Only to find out he had the coordinate as well. So if you look at it that way, breaking the walls was a very smart move to finish the mission. you seem to be working under the assumption that the warriors are informed which they are clearly not, they had no idea about Eren at all until he turned into a titan and they never made a move against the Reiss family they have 2 goals, recover the coordinate and slaughter every human inside the walls, the first objective they couldnt do without any info so they focused on the second one initially | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
I cannot wait for the release. Prepare yourselves, this is going to be a big one! | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
We're going to build a wall! | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
so i guess the king saw how shitty humanity was becoming and decided "fuck that" and decided to segregate his people, he supressed technology to prevent them from going down the same cycle of neverending arms race, the reason he was fine sitting within the wall instead of spreading out and killing titans is because he knew they were his people being forced into that form theres 9 titans but so far weve only seen 4? armoured, beast, giant, speedy, coordinate? possibly ymirs and elder reiss guy arent actually one of the 9 titans though does historias BFF actually have same name as the first titan? | ||
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